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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • February 24, 2015 at 10:33 am #296693
    RumplesGirl
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    I know Ichabbie has a huge following, but personally I don’t see anything romantic between them, it’s all about the BROTP for me, and I think it might ruin their dynamic if they got together.

    While I would be 100% on board them going romantic with this, I would also be 100% okay with them staying BROTP. What I love about Ichabbie is that the writers never tried to force a romance between the two. It happened for the fans because the two leads have a dynamic chemistry. Abbie, the pragmatist that she is, doesn’t sit around and wallow over her love life. She has other concerns. She doesn’t want ponder life with Ichabod as a romance, she isn’t torn about her feelings over him or any such thing. When Abbie and Jenny sit and talk together it isn’t about a man, it’s about saving the world. Ichabbie are partners and friends first and foremost and she’s never asked for more. That’s like…insanely unique for a woman on TV.

    The majority of the audience wants to see it happen though, so it’ll probably happen at some point if the show continues.

    Reminds me quite a bit of Olicity. The writers have Oliver’s comic book half in Laurel but Olicity blew up ALL THE THINGS.

    Ichabod and Katrina are a chemistry-free zone and they were totally awkward with each other, (and I think this is probably a unique case where pretty much an entire fandom of a show can agree on a NOTP), so there’s no way they could have ever had them rekindle their relationship properly and have it be believable, so I don’t think that her remaining alive would have prevented them doing Ichabbie if they wanted to, so I don’t think that’s why she was killed.

    Right, like I said in the review there is a pretty big disconnect between how the writers conceived of Katrina and Ichabod as a love for the ages (her in Purgatory, him crossing time) and how it manifested on screen. They never came across, to me, as that kind of transcendent love. The actress who plays Katrina is also…sorry to say this…one note for me, until she went evil.

     

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 24, 2015 at 10:50 am #296699
    Phee
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    What I love about Ichabbie is that the writers never tried to force a romance between the two. It happened for the fans because the two leads have a dynamic chemistry. Abbie, the pragmatist that she is, doesn’t sit around and wallow over her love life. She has other concerns. She doesn’t want ponder life with Ichabod as a romance, she isn’t torn about her feelings over him or any such thing. When Abbie and Jenny sit and talk together it isn’t about a man, it’s about saving the world. Ichabbie are partners and friends first and foremost and she’s never asked for more. That’s like…insanely unique for a woman on TV.

    And this is why Abbie is made of awesome!

    Reminds me quite a bit of Olicity. The writers have Oliver’s comic book half in Laurel but Olicity blew up ALL THE THINGS.

    At least the writers admit that that’s why Olicity happened though, so even though it’s total fanservice, I still ship it, (and I can’t bring myself to ship along comic canon lines because Laurel deserves better than the guy who cheated on her with her sister). Also, the way they’ve been writing Olicity in the last few eps shows that they haven’t done a disservice to Felicity, because she’s still a strong, independent character, (I do love Oliver, but I also love when people put him in his place, because sometimes it’s totally necessary).

    So, I was just reading a new A&E interview, and…

    D23: You told us last May that Zelena had died. And yet here comes Rebecca Mader back as the Wicked Witch. What gives?
    Eddy: Apparently the quote, “The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated,” applies in this case.
    Adam: From the perspective of our characters, she was dead. And from the perspective of our characters, she remains dead. Every now and then, we don’t pick our words with quite the exactitude we’d like.
    Eddy: Or we have a really great idea a week later. It’s really fun to see Regina and her sister. We have a really fun idea that we love for Zelena that we started kicking around toward the end of last year and have slowly been putting into place.

    Gee, you don’t say.

    February 24, 2015 at 10:52 am #296700
    Rainbow
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    Reminds me quite a bit of Olicity. The writers have Oliver’s comic book half in Laurel but Olicity blew up ALL THE THINGS.

    In this case the writers actually came to public to say that Oliver and Feliciry are only a couple, bc of the popularity they have in the fandom, so they never thought in doing it, but the fans demanded and they did it. I used to see Arrow, saw all seasons in a row, during the summer, but as soon as i found out about this, i stop seing, bc if the writers go by fashions, means that if someone more pop comes, they will change the story to make the fans happy, and after ouat i would not go into a mess like that.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    February 24, 2015 at 10:59 am #296701
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    So, I was just reading a new A&E interview, and…

    Yup. I did a head desk and reminded myself that this is why I’ve pretty much stopped reading their interviews

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 24, 2015 at 11:11 am #296704
    Phee
    Participant

    In this case the writers actually came to public to say that Oliver and Feliciry are only a couple, bc of the popularity they have in the fandom, so they never thought in doing it, but the fans demanded and they did it. I used to see Arrow, saw all seasons in a row, during the summer, but as soon as i found out about this, i stop seing, bc if the writers go by fashions, means that if someone more pop comes, they will change the story to make the fans happy, and after ouat i would not go into a mess like that.

    There won’t ever be a more popular ship on Arrow that Olicity. If there’s anything that puts me off the ship in any way, it’s not the writing for it, it’s some of the obnoxious shippers. It can get a bit reminiscent of CSers vs Neal when you have Oliciters vs Laurel. It’s like fandom war PTSD for me sometimes.

    Yup. I did a head desk and reminded myself that this is why I’ve pretty much stopped reading their interviews

    Before I clicked the link I knew I’d regret it. Didn’t know I’d regret it quite that much though.

    February 24, 2015 at 11:18 am #296706
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    So let me get this straight. Both Maleficent and Zelena gets to be resurrected, but not Neal, because the writers changed their mind after the fact? Neal, one of the few, half-way descent people ever on the show gets the short straw even after death, but the villains get another go, because of all that “villains deserve a happy ending” crap. #Trolls

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 24, 2015 at 11:38 am #296711
    Rainbow
    Participant

    So let me get this straight. Both Maleficent and Zelena gets to be resurrected, but not Neal, because the writers changed their mind after the fact? Neal, one of the few, half-way descent people ever on the show gets the short straw even after death, but the villains get another go, because of all that “villains deserve a happy ending” crap. #Trolls

    Well unless they make some August crap thing and bring Baelfire, using Dylan

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    February 24, 2015 at 11:40 am #296712
    Phee
    Participant

    And changing their mind about the story for a character that was a foundation of the mythology of the show is no biggie. But they can’t kill off a brand new concept villain without concocting a convoluted way to bring ’em back.

    February 24, 2015 at 12:00 pm #296714
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    TROLLS. *shakes head and flips a table* 🙁


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    February 24, 2015 at 12:39 pm #296716
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    As for Emma going dark, I think it’s because they have to make Hook look comparably less bad, because Emma was just too good for him otherwise. You can’t have a villain dating a hero without one coming off smelling like a rose and the other like a skunk. So, the solution? Darken the hero, and whitewash the villain.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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