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March 18, 2015 at 9:49 am #298982
Slurpeez
ParticipantI posted a new theory about the title for 4×17, Heart of Gold.
It sounds to me like what Mr. Gold is actually seeking isn’t just using Emma’s magic for dark purposes. To me, it sounds like what Mr. Gold is actually seeking is Emma’s literal heart. Now, I know Cora was unable to take Emma’s heart, precisely because Emma is the product of true love. But what if she were able to remove her own heart willingly, the way Henry was able to remove his own heart to give to Peter Pan? And I predict that we’ll see Emma’s heart, and that it’s going to be the color gold, like Henry’s is. Hence the title Heart of Gold.
I will be so pleased if this theory is correct, because it would confirm that Henry is a product of true love, just like Emma. Why? Because the biggest objection I’ve read for why Henry couldn’t possibly be born of true love, is that his heart was removable. Yet, my objection to that argument is that Henry had to remove his own heart willingly for Pan to get it. The reason Cora couldn’t take Emma’s heart by force is that Emma’s a product of true love, but if Emma were able to remove her own heart willingly, that would debunk the argument completely about true-love hearts not being removable. And if Emma’s heart turns out to be a golden color, then all the better, seeing how Henry’s heart is a golden color, too. It would offer further proof that both Emma and Henry are both products of true love.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 18, 2015 at 9:57 am #298984RumplesGirl
KeymasterI will be so pleased if this theory is correct, because it would confirm that Henry is a product of true love, just like Emma.
Confirm for you and I perhaps, but I can guarantee you that the fandom will see it differently and in interviews A and E will make their language vague enough to keep it open to question
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 18, 2015 at 10:50 am #298991Slurpeez
ParticipantConfirm for you and I perhaps, but I can guarantee you that the fandom will see it differently and in interviews A and E will make their language vague enough to keep it open to question
You’re probably right. *sigh* Even when we’ve had concrete proof in the past (i.e the swan necklace crossing realms due to its being born of true love), people refused to believe it. Typical Adam found a way to obfuscate things by saying it was Belle’s opinion. Right, as if an opinion couldn’t be based on fact.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 18, 2015 at 11:59 am #298993Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantConfirm for you and I perhaps, but I can guarantee you that the fandom will see it differently and in interviews A and E will make their language vague enough to keep it open to question
You’re probably right. *sigh* Even when we’ve had concrete proof in the past (i.e the swan necklace crossing realms due to its being born of true love), people refused to believe it. Typical Adam found a way to obfuscate things by saying it was Belle’s opinion. Right, as if an opinion couldn’t be based on fact.
What is this swan necklace you all keep talking about and where did it come from?
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
March 18, 2015 at 12:19 pm #298995Phee
ParticipantSo I saw this roleplay scenario generator on tumblr, and I figured, “This could be fun and interesting for a laugh,” so I plugged in Neal and Emma’s names. It spat out…
Neal frequently has dreams or nightmares about Emma.
…aaannnnnd now I’m imagining what he went through for all those years after he left her. Why did I do it? Whhhhyyyyy?!
March 18, 2015 at 12:26 pm #298997RumplesGirl
KeymasterSo I saw this roleplay scenario generator on tumblr, and I figured, “This could be fun and interesting for a laugh,” so I plugged in Neal and Emma’s names. It spat out… Neal frequently has dreams or nightmares about Emma. …aaannnnnd now I’m imagining what he went through for all those years after he left her. Why did I do it? Whhhhyyyyy?!
1. Okay, sadness.
2. Im going to be playing with this all day now…
Sheldon and Amy as children playing together.
Belle trains Rumple in combat.
Emma and Hook are the leaders of rival gangs. (RG add-on: and spend their lives trying to kill each other)
Amy frustrated by losing a board game or card game to Sheldon. (I feel like that is actually an episode of TBBT)
Neal and Emma meeting after they haven’t seen each other in a very long time. (AND IM DONE GOODBYE WORLD I WILL MISS YOU)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 18, 2015 at 12:30 pm #298998heatherc1275
ParticipantYeah, I didn’t need to hear a Dawsey song and a SwanFire song back to back in my work music playlist today….. #sadface 🙁
Don’t mind me while I’m curled up in the corner with RG for a while. 🙁

#MoreBOOMLessGloomMarch 18, 2015 at 12:36 pm #298999Slurpeez
ParticipantNeal and Emma meeting after they haven’t seen each other in a very long time.
The Universe is trying to tell us something. FATE, DESTINY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. *heads desk*
Okay, so curiosity also got the better of me, and I also plugged in their names to the role-play scenario generator. Here’s what I got:
1. Neal taking care of an injured Emma. (Crying at how perfect this would be).
2. Neal and Emma are reincarnated lovers, but aren’t initially compatable to each other. (Gaaaaaah)
3. Emma is the lead singer and Neal is the guitarist in a band.
4. Emma is about to do something stupid. Neal does not think this is a good idea. (Like dating a pirate, the lover of Neal’s mom?)
4. Emma and Neal get caught up in a storm and must stay sheltered together until it passes. (Like Snowing, S1, *sniff*)
5. Neal has stowed away on a ship that Emma works on. (Neal is there to save Emma from a life as an indentured servant on the Jolly Roger).
6. Emma and Neal go on a road trip. (To Tallahassee, Henry hides away in the backseat again)."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 18, 2015 at 12:38 pm #299000Phee
ParticipantThat generator was generated by EVIL people! *sits in the corner and sobs*
March 18, 2015 at 12:39 pm #299001RumplesGirl
KeymasterThe Universe is trying to tell us something. FATE, DESTINY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. *heads desk*
FATE, DESTINY, GOOD STORYTELLING, LOGICAL PROGRESSION OF CHARACTER AND ARC
WHAT ARE THESE THINGS YOU SPEAK OF
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