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April 27, 2015 at 10:02 pm #302956
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ParticipantFrom Lily Sparks:
Historically, OUAT has done an amazing job of physically matching child actors to the grown actors who play the same character. OUAT also has, famously, little to no racial diversity in its cast. The majority of people of color onscreen are peripheral characters that disappear after a few episodes. Lily, an original character whose arc is becoming increasingly important, was originated by the super-talented Nicole Munoz and I think we all assumed the wizards behind OUAT’s eerily on-point child-to-adult casting would figure out a great aged-up lookalike counterpart for her, ergo a Latina. And they didn’t, and that’s a huge missed opportunity for both the show and the thousands of Latina actresses in Hollywood who need parts like this.
THIS!
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 27, 2015 at 11:09 pm #302973Phee
ParticipantEmma: He’s…he’s dead. (Turns to glare at Zelena) Because of her.
GAH the more I think about this non-reaction she had, the angrier I get about it. This is (one of) the fricking problem with this show, they totally ignore moments that should cause an emotional reaction in someone.
April 27, 2015 at 11:14 pm #302976RumplesGirl
KeymasterEmma: He’s…he’s dead. (Turns to glare at Zelena) Because of her.
GAH the more I think about this non-reaction she had, the angrier I get about it. This is (one of) the fricking problem with this show, they totally ignore moments that should cause an emotional reaction in someone.
If they don’t have Emma say something about Neal during this whole shebang, I am going to be pretty irate.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 28, 2015 at 5:51 am #302987PriceofMagic
ParticipantApril 28, 2015 at 5:53 am #302988PriceofMagic
ParticipantEmma: He’s…he’s dead. (Turns to glare at Zelena) Because of her.
GAH the more I think about this non-reaction she had, the angrier I get about it. This is (one of) the fricking problem with this show, they totally ignore moments that should cause an emotional reaction in someone.
If they don’t have Emma say something about Neal during this whole shebang, I am going to be pretty irate.
I agree. The whole episode was screaming for a mention of Neal.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixApril 28, 2015 at 7:28 am #302996RumplesGirl
KeymasterHappy Tuesday!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 28, 2015 at 7:34 am #302998Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantNeal won’t be mentioned.
Emma won’t ever react to his memory again
Neither will Henry
Rumple doesn’t want to think about him, just Bae before the portal.
Happy Tuesday
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
April 28, 2015 at 8:13 am #303003Rainbow
ParticipantHappy Tuesday!!
We all said here that we dont expect any Neal mention, i have to say was surprised they went to Neal apartment, bc that actually raises questions of who is paying the apartment, what neal used to do in order to still have that apartment, now this new fate thing, of how August knew about Neal and other things, would have been easy if Robin plus family simply have gone to a hotel, since they want to erase Neal from the story, is another flaw of them to bring those questions again, when they said that Neal story was over, nothing to answer anymore, not that i think they will answer, bc they wont, im sure that they used Neal apartment to explain why Rumple was not there, but again their solution was worst than the problem they have to fix, but that is something we all should be used to with this show, their solutions lead to more questions that will never be mention again. Lets move on, bc what i wanted to say is the following:
I love The Librarians, The Grimm and The Orphan Black writers, now i got you, u though i was going to say something mean about ouat, oh u will get that, but now i need to explain why im saying this, i actually think Libs and Grimm writers see ouat and mock them, the fact that i know that in several times grimm writers faved tweets saying that grimm is better than ouat and write better things than ouat are examples, but this is still not what i want to say, what i want to say is that Libs and Grimm, mock their own writing, their shows and they are cool with admiting they have some things that are crazy and make no sense, and they certain dont say we planned this from beginning, but that is what makes this shows so good, bc even if they are doing dark subjects, u can see that casts, crews and writers love what they are doing, love their show and the thing is , i dont feel that vibe anymore from ouat writers, crew and cast, i feel that they are now there bc they are being paid, not bc they enjoy doing at least not the way they used to, example, twiter interactions, i know they may talk in private, but that is not what im talking about , im talking about how all their tweets now sound PR, there is no feeling anymore, there is no jokeing with each other, just bc they want and that is the most sad part of what ouat became, that the cast that used to say they “are like family” is actually a lie, bc before after filming( while they were still in vancouver i must say) they used to hang out together, now they dont do that anymore, they end filming and each of them go their lives, so they are not family, they are now work colleagues. That is why i think JMo and Emilie tweets about Neal and missing MRJ , were not a bait/PR situation, were in fact a cast that is tired of not being able to speak about something that happened bts.
Now i talked about OB writers, why, u ask? bc they said in a recent interview that they have a 5 seasons plan for the show( by the way loved this spoiler, bc means 2 more seasons of OB, and if u dont know each season has 10 epis), they explained that people may think that is to soon to think about s5, but they said that they have to do that, bc what happens in S3 will lead to things happening in s4 and to answers on S5, back then the journalist asked them what about if the fans want more seasons? means that the channel will renew for more seasons , their answer are real and direct, in that case we will still stick with the plan, but on s5 finale, we will have to REBOOT the show, come with new stories.
See REBOOT, is the key word, the ouat writers are trying to reboot the show, but are doing it in a bad way, not saying what they should do bc we all know would take to long, i guess what im saying by reboot and i said it yesterday to @Josephine in a mocking way, ( now i will put spoilers tag, bc @RG may kill me with fire if i dont, LoL) I think they wont mention Neal ever again, in a sense that according to spoilers the writers said that in the end of s4 there will be a change in the show condition, many of you were mad when they said that Bae was not Rumple happy ending, u also think Henry will be the next author, u even mention that no way Henry happy ending doesnt include his father and if he is the new writer he can rewrite his father dead, we all know that wont happen, u know why, bc like i said @Jo yesterday and i know that u will say they wont do that, but i really think they will, bc nothing surprises me more in the show anymore and u know what, i made my peace with it, im not even angry or anything, i guess the show is so absurd now that even mocking is dificult, bc by mocking u are giving the show to much importance, but i think by the 422 they will erase Neal and even milah from the show, without having to mention them, how u ask, i could tell u some crack theories , but i wont, the main idea is that i think some of the things from the Au will stick to the reality and those will be probably the characters connection to each other, so Rumple happy ending cant include Bae, if he never existed in the au and henry will include his father bc he will have a new father in this au universe, guess who, yeah, the one u are thinking, meaning that on S5 henry will only need to bring his mother( emma ) back, bc he already has his father and Regina with him. We have a gravestone with no mention about neal being a father, they are erasing him completely, u know is just a matter of time, that without mention, they will erase Neal/Bae and then they will say was always planned bc with that no need for fans to ask to bring him again, and the characters to talk about it, bc on this new rewrite that character never existed.
So neal wont be mention again, although they lost an incredible story with zelena and emma darkness, they could have done Mal killing Cruella, in a deal with the good guys to bring Lily, and emma darkness could have been made in full, using zelena by having her mocking Neal death and having emma kill her( in this idea the stupid preg idea would not exist, so no Zelena pregs) in front of everyone, in a revenge way, that would be the dark emma mode, not the way they did that makes lookslike a person that kills in self defense has to feel that they are criminals and villains.
I will stop now, bc i already said too much.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
April 28, 2015 at 1:39 pm #303024WickedRegal
ParticipantWell, we can’t kill Zelena now because she’s pregnant…..but the Dark Emma confronting Zelena will be a huge miss if they don’t use it. At least have Emma punch her or slap her….curse her out, yell at her….Zelena would be the perfect trigger for Emma, because she is partly responsible for Neal’s death.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
April 28, 2015 at 2:33 pm #303033textbookone
ParticipantSo….. um…. I’ve been away for awhile… No idea what’s going on anywhere. Not in the show, not on Tumblr, not on the thread… So hi?
I’ll admit, the only reason I came back was to look through my old posts to find something specific from the height of last year’s Great Sadness insanity. A certain someone turns a year old today (because I count the day I bought him, not his first appearance on the thread):
So I found a friend while at the convention this past weekend. Since I was away from all of you for so long, I felt required to own him. Not sure what to name him.
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