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May 11, 2015 at 9:01 am #304516
RumplesGirl
KeymasterHappy Day after! How we doing?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2015 at 10:49 am #304521Rainbow
ParticipantHello the Shiny Happy is back( and yeah im still happy).
Good day after the “thing”
So NBC upfronts:
On the Red Carpet with @breblair1, @LarenzTate, @MRaymondJames, and David Lyons from #NBC's @nbcsilence! pic.twitter.com/GyM3VybrFE
— NBC Entertainment (@nbc) May 11, 2015
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
May 11, 2015 at 11:26 am #304523Slurpeez
ParticipantHappy Day after! How we doing?
This is how I feel about last night’s show:
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
May 11, 2015 at 11:43 am #304525Phee
ParticipantHappy Day after! How we doing?
Drinking an alcoholic beverage before bed so I’ll be able to drift off to sleep without being all tense with all the things I want to rant about screaming in my head. I wanted to drink the alcohol immediately after watching, but had to wait until after I was done with my treadmill session. That wait was rough. The first sip of alcohol was good. This show has literally driven me to drink. #fangirlproblems
May 11, 2015 at 11:58 am #304527RumplesGirl
KeymasterTo quote Rainbow
“they wanted a TLK and got a hat….”
Things that really suck
1) I loved the first hour. REALLY LOVED IT. Then I got bitter.
2) The slap in the face AGAIN about Neal never coming back even though I’ve known it all along.
3) The fact that try as I might, Rumbelle still means a lot to me.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2015 at 12:04 pm #304528Slurpeez
ParticipantThis show has literally driven me to drink. #fangirlproblems
You, me, and Emma Swan. In the last few episodes, she’s repeatedly reached for the rum. Dating a one-handed pirate with a drinking problem has turned Emma into someone who reaches for a pint to solve her problems, not unlike the show’s effect on me. Could it be she’s trying to drown out that little voice inside her which says falling for the scalawag might not be such a good idea?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
May 11, 2015 at 12:06 pm #304530RumplesGirl
KeymasterCould it be she’s trying to drown out that little voice inside her which says falling for the scalawag might not be such a good idea?
Yes, wouldn’t it be pretty to think so.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2015 at 12:08 pm #304532Slurpeez
ParticipantThank God! Lily Sparks’ review is up!
From the article:
I was discussing TV with TV.com writer Ryan Sandoval, and he was arguing that what made great TV great was its ability to show and not tell, because leaving a space for interpretation invites the audience to participate, to do more than watch, by solving a story. OUAT does a lot of telling. It does so much telling, in fact, I think a lot of us dismiss what it’s saying, because it seems so overly obvious that we have to believe there is a deeper meaning. We want to solve what we’re seeing, because what we’re being told seems so shallow. We’re being told Robin is Regina’s true love and Emma is hiding her love for Hook. But what we’re seeing, by the end of the episode, is Regina sacrificing herself for Henry, and Emma sacrificing herself for Regina.
THIS!
And might I add that I’m more than pleased the ratings for the finale didn’t go up. They stayed pretty much the same at 1.7.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
May 11, 2015 at 12:23 pm #304534RumplesGirl
KeymasterThank God! Lily Sparks’ review is up!
Aaaaand some highlights
OUAT spent an unprecedented two hours laboring under the assumption we are all here to see Regina and Robin and Emma and Hook make sheep’s eyes at each other. (Which I for one am not.)
He wrote his novel based on how the fairy-tale world would be if villains got their way. Except when Henry shows up and magics them both into the Alternate Universe Fanfiction Realm of Isaac’s book, that is not at all what has happened. He has made the villainous characters act heroic and the heroic characters act villainous. The premise posited what the world be like if the values of the villains gained the upperhand. What we saw instead was a costume switch. Regina dressed up as Outlaw Snow, Snow dressed up as Flock of Seagulls lead Mike Score Regina.
At the same time, do I think Emma would shoot a straight-up cannon into Dragon Lily? And then laugh triumphantly afterwards? I sure hope not.
OUAT does a lot of telling. It does so much telling, in fact, I think a lot of us dismiss what it’s saying, because it seems so overly obvious that we have to believe there is a deeper meaning. We want to solve what we’re seeing, because what we’re being told seems so shallow. We’re being told Robin is Regina’s true love and Emma is hiding her love for Hook. But what we’re seeing, by the end of the episode, is Regina sacrificing herself for Henry, and Emma sacrificing herself for Regina.
(not even an SQ fan but man they baited them last night…)
The show posits that what we understand to be fiction/fairy tales is actually the history of another realm. Okay fine. Then we find out that Authors wrote these fairy tales as the history of this realm, and also these Authors have magic pens that allow them to make literally anything happen with godlike omnipotence. But when Isaac uses that magic, the fiction he creates doesn’t count because none of it’s real? Because he wasn’t recording “reality?” So if Authors are recording a reality, why do they have that magic ability at all? Henry was so confused he broke his magic quill so he would not have that kind of power over his parents, and lie about their realities, even though they are all apparently fictional characters. I think? Guys. Help.
But OUAT is now approaching a tipping point where its entire plot hinges on figuring out what its plot is, and what it’s telling us the plot is does not especially acknowledge what we’re all seeing onscreen
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2015 at 12:43 pm #304539WickedRegal
ParticipantYeah…I’m not a SQ Fan either, but I’ve got to agree with Lily that Adam and Eddy were baiting the hell out of them last night.
Regina: My happy ending isn’t with a man….
Well, got dang it Adam and Eddy, which one of you wrote that line! I never thought I’d say this, but a small part of me actually felt bad for the SQ Fandom to be tossed bones like this, just to keep their viewings. If they cut the heck up last night….can I really say that I blame them given that we saw almost more SwanQueen Moments than OutlawQueen and CaptainSwan????
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
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