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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • July 26, 2015 at 2:57 pm #306605
    Rainbow
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    Quick question: You know how Regina said that in order to contact Cora, the murder weapon and the murderer had to be present (Snow and the candle), what would you consider to be Neal’s point of death, the dark vault key and Zelena (though do you consider Zelena to be Neal’s murderer in the way Snow was Cora’s murderer ie, they didn’t actually strike the killing blow but they set it up) or Emma when she separated Neal from Rumple and he died in her arms?

    I have my own opinion about this and maybe is clouded by my dislike of some characters.

    Like most of OUAT fandom, that makes headcanons in order to have their favorite characters turn into heroes, i have mine, mix with canon, no one can take away that i my head Hook was the one telling Zelena that Neal and Belle wanted to bring Rumple back( that by the way is canon, he said it on 315 that he heard them talk about it, even tho he never said that to anyone or was actually to far away to even be able to heard that, but whatever), telling her about the dagger and making a deal with her, in order for her to kill Neal ( so that he could get Emma and geting revenge on rumple, knowing that without neal he would be destroyed), in that sense,  my head canon, Hook, Zelena, Lumiere, Emma both when she separated him from Rumple and when she refused to save him. So in my headcanon, 4 people were responsable for neal dying, being Emma maybe the biggest responsable. Not even going to mention OOC Rumple for drinking a potion and Belle bc she didnt investigate the key 1st.

    In canon, Zelena, Lumiere and Emma are the triangle here, again with latest being the one that ended killing him when she refused to save him in the past.

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    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    July 26, 2015 at 3:17 pm #306606
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    OK Thanks!

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    July 27, 2015 at 7:40 am #306613
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Happy Monday

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 28, 2015 at 8:15 am #306629
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Morn—zzzzzz

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 28, 2015 at 10:30 pm #306640
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    Quick question: You know how Regina said that in order to contact Cora, the murder weapon and the murderer had to be present (Snow and the candle), what would you consider to be Neal’s point of death, the dark vault key and Zelena (though do you consider Zelena to be Neal’s murderer in the way Snow was Cora’s murderer ie, they didn’t actually strike the killing blow but they set it up) or Emma when she separated Neal from Rumple and he died in her arms?

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    It was Zelena, with the Key, at the Vault.

     

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    July 29, 2015 at 8:31 am #306644
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    *wakes up to see a tweet from Adam encouraging all ships to have a virtual hug*

    Oh. Please. Spare me. An internet virtual hug is not going to end the bullying, the hatred, and the rampant toxicity that is this fandom. You burying your head in the sand and pretending it will isn’t helping either.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 29, 2015 at 10:41 am #306646
    Rainbow
    Participant

    *wakes up to see a tweet from Adam encouraging all ships to have a virtual hug* Oh. Please. Spare me. An internet virtual hug is not going to end the bullying, the hatred, and the rampant toxicity that is this fandom. You burying your head in the sand and pretending it will isn’t helping either.

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    The worst was that this tweet didnt came from him, came from SQ fans calling him saying he supports the bullies that bully many SQers and other parts of the fandom, by not calling them up, so this was PR from him,  especially bc Adam went to some fans twiter account, that didnt tag him and started calling them up, bc they keep talking about things that happened on the show, and saying they are always complaining, hinting that they are haters bc they dont say the show is great, and saying that the answers to the fans  questions happened off screen, for them to see the episodes, which i say is a bit stupid that he is asking people to see episodes when the scenes are not there bc they happened off screen, but whatever, nothing new on the ouat fandom .

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    July 29, 2015 at 11:51 am #306648
    PriceofMagic
    Participant
    RumplesGirl wrote:

    *wakes up to see a tweet from Adam encouraging all ships to have a virtual hug* Oh. Please. Spare me. An internet virtual hug is not going to end the bullying, the hatred, and the rampant toxicity that is this fandom. You burying your head in the sand and pretending it will isn’t helping either.

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    The worst was that this tweet didnt came from him, came from SQ fans calling him saying he supports the bullies that bully many SQers and other parts of the fandom, by not calling them up, so this was PR from him, especially bc Adam went to some fans twiter account, that didnt tag him and started calling them up, bc they keep talking about things that happened on the show, and saying they are always complaining, hinting that they are haters bc they dont say the show is great, and saying that the answers to the fans questions happened off screen, for them to see the episodes, which i say is a bit stupid that he is asking people to see episodes when the scenes are not there bc they happened off screen, but whatever, nothing new on the ouat fandom .

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    It’s a bit hypocritical of SQers to claim they’re being bullied when they themselves bully shippers that disagree with them. (Granted it’s not all SQers but the bad apples, but you can’t go throwing your weight around then kick up a fuss and get all uppity because somebody else has given you a taste of your own medicine that you were dishing out)

    All the ships have their bad apples but SQ seem to have the most vocal.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    July 29, 2015 at 12:03 pm #306650
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    t’s a bit hypocritical of SQers to claim they’re being bullied when they themselves bully shippers that disagree with them.

    Well with the recent hacking escapes, I’d say that their claim to be bullying has some real weight, not to mention that while SQ may have some BAs those BAs have NEVER done what was done to them recently.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 29, 2015 at 12:15 pm #306651
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    What happened?

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
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