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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
What happened?
Short and dirty story, Csers( is confirmed to be them, bc they were gloating online, by the way, the same people that gloat how they like to bully SF fans bc is fun, and how they love to make fun of Neal bc he is dead and he is ugly), hacked into at least 4 SQ fans accounts in twiter, tumblr and facebook, then deleted the accounts and made new ones , pretending to be the SQ fans, but saying they now see that SQ is toxic, that CS is better and was always planed, then tweet other SQ fans bullying them, and tweet the cast, crew, writers and network, saying that Sq fans are bad , for them to not listen to what sq fans say, bc cs is the best and the show is great. The end. Is case to ask who are the bullies.
Also, i think SQ are vocal, bc they point the show flaws, thing that anyone else does, Sf doesnt exist anymore and they get enough bullying without pointing the flaws, not that anyone will hear, bc adam and the cast at least dont answer anymore neal tweets or even if is not about neal, to people that have neal pics, RB and SW fans just pray for the show not to destroy the couples more than they already done and then the Cs and OQ are fan service so obvious they are happy. So if there is anyone that can call upon the writers and network saying they remenber the past seasons( even support sometimes other ships like SF, RB and SW), so in that case agree with them. Like i agree with them that maybe is time for adam to make a hiatus from twiter, he is a show runner, he cant simply say , when the fans have questions, “happened off screen”, especially when he says that if was not on screen that means is not canon, that doesnt work like that, in tv ( in this case), u show dont tell, if is not on screen is not canon, so he cant expect the viewers to accept that answer, if they have doubts, they cant receive as answer that happened off screen, that is not a way to tell a story. Example, he now says that Robin told Regina off screen who was the wicked witch in SB, because on timeline Robin knew who was Zelena bc he meet her before the 1st curse, when he tried to kill regina in SB bc he mixed her by zelena, they say if RH knew zelena why did he mixed her with Regina in SB.
And now i ask, if Regina knew who was the witch, why did Neal died to tell the town who she was? and i point even more flaws, like neal never talking with Rumple about Milah, or hook and neal like being ok in NVL, or neal knowing Pan was his grandpa, or that neal knew that Henry was adopted, or who called the cops on emma, or that emma kept the bug, or that emma just fall in love with hook in days, or that hook is belle bff, or belle and will, or will and ana, those things all happened off screen, AKA,you will never will get a answer, meaning that u leave many plot holes behind, making it the ultimate fan fiction, bc as long it fits the story u can make your own head canon.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
What happened?
Short and dirty story, Csers( is confirmed to be them, bc they were gloating online, by the way, the same people that gloat how they like to bully SF fans bc is fun, and how they love to make fun of Neal bc he is dead and he is ugly), hacked into at least 4 SQ fans accounts in twiter, tumblr and facebook, then deleted the accounts and made new ones , pretending to be the SQ fans, but saying they now see that SQ is toxic, that CS is better and was always planed, then tweet other SQ fans bullying them, and tweet the cast, crew, writers and network, saying that Sq fans are bad , for them to not listen to what sq fans say, bc cs is the best and the show is great. The end. Is case to ask who are the bullies.
Also, i think SQ are vocal, bc they point the show flaws, thing that anyone else does, Sf doesnt exist anymore and they get enough bullying without pointing the flaws, not that anyone will hear, bc adam and the cast at least dont answer anymore neal tweets or even if is not about neal, to people that have neal pics, RB and SW fans just pray for the show not to destroy the couples more than they already done and then the Cs and OQ are fan service so obvious they are happy. So if there is anyone that can call upon the writers and network saying they remenber the past seasons( even support sometimes other ships like SF, RB and SW), so in that case agree with them. Like i agree with them that maybe is time for adam to make a hiatus from twiter, he is a show runner, he cant simply say , when the fans have questions, “happened off screen”, especially when he says that if was not on screen that means is not canon, that doesnt work like that, in tv ( in this case), u show dont tell, if is not on screen is not canon, so he cant expect the viewers to accept that answer, if they have doubts, they cant receive as answer that happened off screen, that is not a way to tell a story. Example, he now says that Robin told Regina off screen who was the wicked witch in SB on Season 3B, because on timeline Robin knew who was Zelena bc he meet her before the 1st curse( 417), in that case why did he tried kill regina in SB bc he mixed her with zelena since he knew that Regina and Zelena were not the same people.
And now i ask, if Regina knew who was the witch, why did Neal died to tell the town who she was? and i point even more flaws, like neal never talking with Rumple about Milah, or hook and neal like being ok in NVL, or neal knowing Pan was his grandpa, or that neal knew that Henry was adopted, or who called the cops on emma, or that emma kept the bug, or that emma just fall in love with hook in days, or that hook is belle bff, or belle and will, or will and ana, those things all happened off screen, AKA,you will never will get a answer, meaning that u leave many plot holes behind, making it the ultimate fan fiction, bc as long it fits the story u can make your own head canon.
Sorry about the long post.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
It’s a bit hypocritical of SQers to claim they’re being bullied when they themselves bully shippers that disagree with them. (Granted it’s not all SQers but the bad apples, but you can’t go throwing your weight around then kick up a fuss and get all uppity because somebody else has given you a taste of your own medicine that you were dishing out) All the ships have their bad apples but SQ seem to have the most vocal.
Yes…yes…and yes. They love lighting the match and expecting their target to get burned instead.
*wakes up to see a tweet from Adam encouraging all ships to have a virtual hug* Oh. Please. Spare me. An internet virtual hug is not going to end the bullying, the hatred, and the rampant toxicity that is this fandom. You burying your head in the sand and pretending it will isn’t helping either.
The worst was that this tweet didnt came from him, came from SQ fans calling him saying he supports the bullies that bully many SQers and other parts of the fandom, by not calling them up, so this was PR from him, especially bc Adam went to some fans twiter account, that didnt tag him and started calling them up, bc they keep talking about things that happened on the show, and saying they are always complaining, hinting that they are haters bc they dont say the show is great, and saying that the answers to the fans questions happened off screen, for them to see the episodes, which i say is a bit stupid that he is asking people to see episodes when the scenes are not there bc they happened off screen, but whatever, nothing new on the ouat fandom .
Amazing how SQ always wanna play victim and complain about bullying when they’re also the ones spreading false rumors and bullying fans, actors (Sean & Colin), actress (Ginny, and yes even Lana & JMo have received hatred from their own so called “fans”), and Adam and eddy. SQ has pulled so much crap to the point to where I think even Zap2It had to blog on their rudeness. Though Adam and Eddy’s constant teasing probably is provoking their behavior, a lesson I hope that they learned this past Season 4, the worst thing to ever give to a ship that you know you’ll never make happen is false hope.
Though despite SQ fans not being the most healthy fandom on OUAT, the same case easily applies to both CaptainSwan and OutlawQueen, as I certainly remember a time when CaptainSwans were giving the exact same hassle to Michael Raymond James, Adam & Eddy, & SwanFire just as OutlawQueen did to Christie Lang, Adam and Eddy.
All the ships in OUAT Fandom has issues….every single last one of them, and they grow more toxic by the day….it’s becoming so repetitive that even the interest in OUAT is going downhill. This series will not end with everyone being happy, holding hands, and singing the campfire song…..it started in peace, but it’s going to end in war because at the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and preferences, but also feel entitled to their ship being canon, and the more they see it not becoming canon or see what looks like to be an obstacle for their ship, the more they’re bound to throw tantrums.
If you don’t ship what they ship and don’t like what they ship….you’re automatically an enemy, the whole “Agree to Disagree” Mantra has gone out the window. It’s so bad that none of the actors or actresses even posts selfie shots anymore, or hashtag their canon ship….all the fun in shipping has been drained due to civil war.Selfishness, entitlement, unjust victimizing, and hatred within the fandom are the biggest downfalls for Once Upon A Time and will ultimately lead to it’s undoing in the end. “United They Stand, Divided They Fall.”
All fandoms should just stay in their separate corners, stop cross tagging, don’t look at each other stuff, stop bullying the actors and actresses for just playing their roles, and leave the writers and producers alone to make whatever further mess out of their show that they wish.
(Edit: Um…how is OutlawQueen Fanservice? It was Lana Parrilla who requested for Regina to have a love interest in Season 3.)"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
All fandoms should just stay in their separate corners, stop cross tagging, don’t look at each other stuff
And its sad but true that this is what we must do. As a fandom we should be together and unified, and all that jazz.
But this is what OUAT does.
This is the only fandom I’ve been that is like this. Not even the Team Edward vs Team Jacob fan girls. Or the Eric/Bill/Quinn/Alcide/Sam (Wow Sookie really around T_T) but yeah no. Once is completely unique in this foolishness and I really want to know WHY? Is it the fans? Or the writers?????? It’ll only get worse if you think about it. If Emma and Killian have TLk or Regina and Robin, the SQers will throw a fit. If Regina and Emma have TLK then everyone else will throw a fit. If no one has TLK with anyone, everyone throws a fit. Can’t please em all."I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC*sigh*
Yes there are BA’s in every ship of this fandom. But frankly what was done to Swen was down right disgusting and borderline illegal. It doesn’t matter was BA’s have done in the past; no one deserves what was done to some of them. This whole retaliation of “they do bad things too” is a child’s response. Be adults, for crying out loud. This isn’t a Swen problem. This isn’t a CS problem. This isn’t an OQ problem. This is a OUAT problem; this is because A and E have crafted a narrative that causes these sorts of problems because they are more concerned with shiny shiny and not actually thinking their story through.
They bait and tease Swen to the hilt and then point blank refuse to acknowledge it’s what they are doing; the bait and tease Swen and then allow Yvette Nicole Brown to go around hastaging #YourShipIsNotCanon and refusing to allow them to ask question as the biggest fan inspired panel in the world.
They talk about CS being love and how far Hook has come without actually showing any sort of remorse or admission of guilt (and when he does, the other characters just disregard it!) Instead they have Hook embody rape culture and become a wish fulfillment insert character while making him a woobie because guyliner.
They talk about the connection Regina and Robin have but they never developed the story in a logical and clear way, just threw the two together because “pixie dust” and then decided to write them a body swapped, dead sister/dead wife, rape-tastic story while making Robin look like a complete and utter….word I can’t say.
So course there is constant fighting in this toxic wasteland fandom. A and E are fostering it with every stroke of their pen.
But in other news, happy Thursday.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"(Edit: Um…how is OutlawQueen Fanservice? It was Lana Parrilla who requested for Regina to have a love interest in Season 3.)
OQ has grown on me to the point where I’ve written them into my fanfiction and they seem to naturally fit. However, in show I would’ve liked to see Robin acknowledge Regina’s Evil Queen past and also acknowledge how Regina has changed. They just seemed to ignore it in show which was the wrong thing to do IMO because it made Robin look really kind of thick in that he should know who Regina was. The pixie-dust plot was crap- give OQ a connection, not they have to be together because pixie dust said so. That was forced and the best pairings are not forced. Also the visual of Robin helping up Regina whilst leaving a heavily pregnant woman on the floor was just visually funny but in the wrong way. I disliked Regina’s “light magic” moment in 3B, it was a plot device but also the fact that it forced Regina into a role which was not a natural fit for her. Regina is Not a hero, she’s an anti-hero that is on team good but does the things so the good guys don’t have to. They’ve made Regina sappy when she’s around Robin. Obviously she’s going to be softer around him than she is around others but there’s a difference between soft and sappy and the show has got the balance wrong. The show needs to stop trying to force OQ an CS down our throats, we get it they’re happenng, but we don’t have to have it shoved in our faces every other scene, there is such a thing as subtlety and sometimes less is more.
Last thing, I don’t think they should reverse Regina’s infertility especially via TLK or dear god true love’s sperm. That is just wrong. Regina’s character is interesting in that she is an adoptive parent and, if she marries Robin, a step-parent. Let the show send the message that non-biological parents can be just as good, and that non-biological children can be just as loved. A much better message than biological is best and that Regina can only have her happy ending when she is in a relationship with a man and has his child naturally.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixA glorious opportunity that we were all cruelly denied
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixWell Lana Parrilla and Sean Maguire have both expressed a desire for Robin and Regina to have a child, so OutlawQueenBaby could happen at some point. And I do believe Gepetto represents the best case in adoption, because he was a great father to Pinocchio.
A glorious opportunity that we were all cruelly denied
Henry lost a father and Rumple lost a son…..this same storyline could have been done in Season 4 had Neal sacrificed himself in becoming the Dark One, and would’ve been a great storyline to show Rumple what he put Bae through and to parallel Dark One Rumple/Bae with Neal/Henry.
And Lana Parrilla said at 2015 Spooky Empire Con that she and Robert Carlyle still discuss the possibility of Regina being Rumple’s bio daughter…..I swear if that’s a route Adam and Eddy ever take, I’m going to have to take a week long break from the Forums because it’s going to blow up in flames and fireworks.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
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