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Would that I could say that I’m surprised. But this is the show that accidentally gender swapped a baby, so…
[adrotate group="5"]Just watched the sneak peek where Emma has all that flypaper for nightmares hanging in her window, and now I wanna curl up and die. *SIGH*
The show has such a strict anti-Nealfire clause entrenched in its narrative that I can’t be surprised. Just angry when it’s pointed out.
*sigh*
But this example of the cutlass just really demonstrates the lengths to which they will go to blatantly ignore one of the founding ideas of the show.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Morning all. TGIT tonight. (And Sleepy Hollow!!)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think for all of our sanity maybe it’s worth assuming that OUAT after 3×15 (actually, starting with 3B period) has been replaced with an evil doppelganger. I haven’t tried to do any sort of methodical analysis, but it seems to me that right around that point some of the core messages that OUAT started with were literally reversed or completely jettisoned. Compared to the “original,” Stepford!OUAT is a lot more patriarchal, heteronormative, focused on romance and ships as opposed to family, inconsistent about its moral compass, and plot rather than character driven. Many of its characters have been artificially remolded to suit some kind of new direction. That’s also where a ton of retcon started happening. (I’m sure I’m missing other examples) So, I have two questions. If we take this OUAT as an entirely new killer robot ahem, I mean show, what is it about? What are its core values? And two, what the heck happened???
Many of its characters have been artificially remolded to suit some kind of new direction. That’s also where a ton of retcon started happening. (I’m sure I’m missing other examples) So, I have two questions. If we take this OUAT as an entirely new killer robot ahem, I mean show, what is it about? What are its core values? And two, what the heck happened???
THIS! Apparently even saying you think the real reason for this shift is because Baelfire was written out in favor of a different character is no longer tolerated in ther general forum (or anywhere else in the fandom except this thread). Even saying so for non-shipping reasons is taboo. People don’t want to hear about it because it’s “in the past” and so on. *le sigh*
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think for all of our sanity maybe it’s worth assuming that OUAT after 3×15 (actually, starting with 3B period) has been replaced with an evil doppelganger. I haven’t tried to do any sort of methodical analysis, but it seems to me that right around that point some of the core messages that OUAT started with were literally reversed or completely jettisoned. Compared to the “original,” Stepford!OUAT is a lot more patriarchal, heteronormative, focused on romance and ships as opposed to family, inconsistent about its moral compass, and plot rather than character driven. Many of its characters have been artificially remolded to suit some kind of new direction. That’s also where a ton of retcon started happening. (I’m sure I’m missing other examples
This is the most beautiful paragraph ever written.
I mean show, what is it about? What are its core values?
For me, OUAT’s core value now is entertainment, but not in the elevated television-as-art sort of way, but rather in a cheap, tawdry, melodramatic, cheesy, please-tweet-about-me sort of way. It’s about generating the most gasps, the most OMG and most buzzworthy moments possible instead of carefully crafting quiet introspective family (and yes, sometimes even romantic) moments that speak to a large audience about coping and surviving in the world when hope seems lost.
It’s style over substance.
And two, what the heck happened???
Ah yes, the big one. For me, it’s ABC/The Great Mouse. We often cast A and E in the “troll” or devil role, but I tend to believe that ABC had a much larger role to play in all this. I think they dictated that certain things had to happen (CS) and that A and E were backed into a corner and instead of fighting their way out, or trying to find a solution that would appease their Mousey overlords but not totally destroy their show (CS is endgame, but Neal gets to live and be a son/father) they went for the kill (literally) and did a reset (3A finale) and then started afresh meaning that the vestiges of the show-that-was had to be wiped away. Rumple went back to be all the EVILZ but without any of the human motivation. Snowing became baby-nappers who are about as complex as mayonnaise. Henry became an afterthought and the former villains–Regina and Hook–took up the mantel of hero-in-training and do more of the heavy lifting while Emma becomes a pawn in an online shipping war and the narrative is split between what is told (CS) and what is shown (SQ).
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"some part of my soul that I didn’t realize still existed just died after looking at the latest spoilers for 510
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Just went to Tumblr and saw that crap spoilers bc someone didnt tag the spoilers as spoilers and because of that my block program didnt blocked ouat spoilers.
My 1st reaction
My 2nd reaction:
I dont even know what to say, well besides if this is meant to show Emma and Hook as fate and always meant to meet, or that somehow Hook is a hero and maybe even heir to camelot, not sure how , but hey is OUAT comes with no sense, No one cant tell me this is not last season, let be real many people wont be happy, many are already saying they wont see and i dont see the GA coming back to see 11 or 12 epis on S5B to see all characters being happy, or at least knowing they will all be happy, even if they go to underworld,bc really is boring, that u know no one will die for real, they will all be happy, etc, etc, etc.
How i imagine GA on S5B:
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
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