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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • October 30, 2015 at 4:04 pm #311340
    WickedRegal
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    Slurpeez wrote:

    Neal’s in heaven, not in hell. yadda, yadda, yadda

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    If Neal is Heaven and Hook dies and goes to the Underworld, I will have a FIELD DAY!!!!!!!!!!! xD

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    October 30, 2015 at 4:43 pm #311344
    Ranisha Pitts
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    This is beautiful

     

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    October 30, 2015 at 5:17 pm #311346
    Slurpeez
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    *reads latest spoiler*

    So, I know I’m in the extreme minority, but I don’t think it has to be Hook’s heart that Emma sacrifices to cast the dark curse. To cast it, one must sacrifice the heart of the thing she loves most. Then whose heart did she sacrifice? Henry’s heart. There is no way that Emma loves Hook more than her son. Just last episode Emma, cried over the dreamcatcher after Rumple said you always lose the ones you love most. The implication is that Emma was crying over losing her son after she used Violet to break Henry’s heart. Next, remember how Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. Finally, just maybe Emma scarified Henry’s heart, but only if Henry willingly took out his own heart to give to his mother, believing that his mother would save him as she did previously in S1. After all, he has the heart of the truest believer and he knows that Snow and Charming share a heart. Emma sacrificing her son’s heart might be the darkest thing yet, and might be why she took away everyone’s memory. Yes, I’m fully prepared to eat my words.

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    October 30, 2015 at 5:27 pm #311347
    nevermore
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    [quote=311346]hen whose heart did she sacrifice? Henry’s heart. There is no way that Emma loves Hook more than her son.[/quote]

    Slurpeez, I’m with you on that one. There’s no way that she loves Hook more than Henry. In a sense, Emma’s relationship with her son is so central to the show — Hook is, yet again, a peripheral character. But clearly something’s afoot because Henry seems to be doing just fine. And my understanding is that if you crush someone’s heart, they essentially die. Unless… what if she took his heart, replaced it with someone else’s, and then crushed Henry’s? With the caveat that she’d somehow restore it/get it back — and obviously Henry isn’t dead. So, if that theory holds any water, whose heart would she transplant? I originally thought her own, but then it’d be tainted by the darkness. What if it’s Regina’s? IE what if Regina willingly gave her heart to Henry? Anyway, this is probably crazy talk…

    October 30, 2015 at 8:04 pm #311360
    Ranisha Pitts
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    I going with majority but don’t mind being wrong. However I think Henry’s heart is protected so she cant use that heart. Neal is dead. Snowing only half a heart. So that only concludes Hook

    In other news almost time for GRIMM!

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    October 30, 2015 at 8:57 pm #311366
    RumplesGirl
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    *reads latest spoiler* So, I know I’m in the extreme minority, but I don’t think it has to be Hook’s heart that Emma sacrifices to cast the dark curse. To cast it, one must sacrifice the heart of the thing she loves most. Then whose heart did she sacrifice? Henry’s heart. There is no way that Emma loves Hook more than her son. Just last episode Emma, cried over the dreamcatcher after Rumple said you always lose the ones you love most. The implication is that Emma was crying over losing her son after she used Violet to break Henry’s heart. Next, remember how Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. Finally, just maybe Emma scarified Henry’s heart, but only if Henry willingly take out his own heart to give to his mother, believing that his mother would save him as she did previously in S1. After all, he has the heart of the truest believer and he knows that Snow and Charming share a heart. Emma sacrificing her son’s heart might be the darkest thing yet, and might be why she took away everyone’s memory. Yes, I’m fully prepared to eat my words.

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    I am actually with you on this one.

    There’s no way they would have sacrifice Hook over Henry.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 30, 2015 at 11:05 pm #311373
    TheWatcher
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    Slurpeez wrote:

    *reads latest spoiler* So, I know I’m in the extreme minority, but I don’t think it has to be Hook’s heart that Emma sacrifices to cast the dark curse. To cast it, one must sacrifice the heart of the thing she loves most. Then whose heart did she sacrifice? Henry’s heart. There is no way that Emma loves Hook more than her son. Just last episode Emma, cried over the dreamcatcher after Rumple said you always lose the ones you love most. The implication is that Emma was crying over losing her son after she used Violet to break Henry’s heart. Next, remember how Emma said everyone except Henry had failed her. Finally, just maybe Emma scarified Henry’s heart, but only if Henry willingly take out his own heart to give to his mother, believing that his mother would save him as she did previously in S1. After all, he has the heart of the truest believer and he knows that Snow and Charming share a heart. Emma sacrificing her son’s heart might be the darkest thing yet, and might be why she took away everyone’s memory. Yes, I’m fully prepared to eat my words.

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    I am actually with you on this one. There’s no way they would have sacrifice Hook over Henry.

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    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they had her do that. At this stage in the game, I don’t even know Emma anymore.

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    October 31, 2015 at 5:45 am #311380
    Rainbow
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    Morning!!!!

    Grimm was great, i now need to see the other shows i didnt see this week and have to prepare for Librarians tomorrow.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    October 31, 2015 at 5:54 am #311381
    Rainbow
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    About that spoiler, for much that i dont want and makes no logic, but then again is ouat.

     For much that i think is stupid, and say makes no sense being Hook, but sorry girls, but all points to Hook, in the past when i saw csers saying that, i said no way, they are delusional, but makes sense now and you know is probably coming, no Henry would be explained with he has the protection spell and no way would Henry would give his heart to the Dark one, especially bc no way would Regina allowed that and even more to cast a dark curse, but Hook would explain no TLk on Sb, bc Hook no longer has his heart, would explain why JMo said on a in interview Emma was doing everything bc of Hook, would explain why Hook said in Camelot he would fight for her and now  acts weird, would explain why some csers say on a future epi pics, that Hook tried to jump of a roof and then Emma saves him and after appears to touch his heart, would explain why the sword has Hook name, would explain  why they would kill Hook, bc in a way he is also  part dark one and if he dies why they will go try to save hook,  that would mean that they are TL like Snowing, so emma would try to save him, would explain why Rumple said that Emma crushed hook heart and why some writers according to Mer and some Sqers ( jane and the new one, hinted that maybe that was a spoiler and now eddie giving hints that maybe was already mentioned before on the show and i saw some some fans(which my the way got them a mute, when OB is back i will unmute them), rant how the new writer said the finale would be a tease for all ships, and when some cs fan even said to her,” i will be crying” and the writer said “would be a good crying”). Is sad, but is coming, so arc B is saving hook and probably bringing back from dead, more  people and they would fit having a S6b maybe of one arc or 2 just to show the characters talking about everything that happened and some fillers, bla bla bla. Of course i hope im wrong, i would be very happy if i was wrong about this,because of you girls, that still see the show.

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    October 31, 2015 at 8:24 am #311384
    RumplesGirl
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    I wouldn’t know what to do if the show went THERE and said that Hook was the thing Emma loves most over Henry. I wouldn’t even know how to process this. I mean, I know CS is endgame and I know CS will continue to be presented as something healthy and loving when it’s anything but….but I couldn’t stomach the idea that Emma Swan, who saved an entire realm with the love she bears her child, suddenly loves Hook more. It would feel like the biggest slap in the face of S1 and the themes of the series. So, no. Right now I’m choosing to believe (believe, not hope) that A and E wouldn’t do something so insulting as that

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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