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November 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm #312839
nevermore
Participant^^ Just a quick note on the really interesting analysis @Josephine posted
Has anyone been around toddlers much (other than WR of course!)? This might be better formulated by someone who has a background in early childhood development, or who’s had much more experience with kids than I have, but I’ve noticed that when toddlers/young kids learn story telling, they tend towards two strategies for dealing with plot roadblocks:
– they either change the stated rules of the game (“the reason the kitten was able to get out of [whatever pickle they’re in] was because the kitten was really a rainbow unicorn who was also a magic dragon [and hence stated pickle doesn’t apply to it]”) or
– they introduce deus ex machina McGuffins “(and then the kittens were rescued by a magic dragon that was also a rocket ship”). I’m guessing this is because they already have a sense of what a narrative structure ought to look like, but don’t yet have the reasoning skills to work our more subtle explanations consistent with the narrative they have so far built.
Reminds you for anyone/anything? Yes, I’m essentially saying that A&E are toddlers. 😛
[adrotate group="5"]November 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm #312842Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantGurl we be there, Dec 18th with glitter! Because this is Fabulous!!!



Spot on gurl Spot on!
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
November 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm #312845RumplesGirl
KeymasterI will say that the “love is a weapon” thing is a TV trope. I know we’re going to the Underworld so that may not stand here. If Hook ends up forgiving Emma, it will actually be good character growth for him. However, if he seeks revenge on her, I’ll still be up on my soap box.
And what if it’s both? That’s the problem. The writing of Hook differs from writer to writer which is why he looks wildly unstable most of the time. The writers either don’t talk to each other or no one realizes that he’s being written as someone who’s personality and opinions change not only episode to episode but moment to moment. The writers are so caught up in their PLOT and what their own end game is (Underworld, the Dark Swan, ect) that they don’t stop and see the entire narrative they are creating and how they are casting their characters.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 20, 2015 at 1:31 am #312872Josephine
Participant@Nevermore, I taught preschool and children’s imaginations are fascinating. I will have to say they when they make up stories they’re likely to tell you in detail why their character turns into a unicorn or spontaneously bursts into flames. It’s amazing the reasoning skills they have. It might not be realistic but they will tell you a reason. Which in a way ranks them above the trolls.
We had a horrible night of heartache, death, death, and more death followed by despair in our tv viewing tonight. I need some happiness so imagine Tom Mison/Ichabod reciting the following:
I can listen no longer in silence. I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach. You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant.
This is an excerpt of the letter Frederick Wentworth sent to Anne Elliot in the novel Persuasion. Can’t you just imagine Ichabod penning these words to paper? *sigh*
(This is permitted shipping since it falls withing the parameters of being 19th century British literature. 🙂 )
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
November 20, 2015 at 6:07 am #312877Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantWe had a horrible night of heartache, death, death, and more death followed by despair in our tv viewing tonight. I need some happiness so imagine Tom Mison/Ichabod reciting the following: I can listen no longer in silence. I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach. You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant. This is an excerpt of the letter Frederick Wentworth sent to Anne Elliot in the novel Persuasion. Can’t you just imagine Ichabod penning these words to paper? *sigh* (This is permitted shipping since it falls withing the parameters of being 19th century British literature.
)we need an image to go with that quote Jo! Its hard task but I will find one.

or two

or three

There you go. I took one, well two, more like three for the team.
😛
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
November 20, 2015 at 7:22 am #312879RumplesGirl
KeymasterWe had a horrible night of heartache, death, death, and more death followed by despair in our tv viewing tonight.
*rocks back and forth*
Abbie is dead and Shamy are still broken up. God, get me to December.
We had a horrible night of heartache, death, death, and more death followed by despair in our tv viewing tonight. I need some happiness so imagine Tom Mison/Ichabod reciting the following: I can listen no longer in silence. I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach. You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant. This is an excerpt of the letter Frederick Wentworth sent to Anne Elliot in the novel Persuasion. Can’t you just imagine Ichabod penning these words to paper? *sigh* (This is permitted shipping since it falls withing the parameters of being 19th century British literature.
)we need an image to go with that quote Jo! Its hard task but I will find one.
or two
or three
There you go. I took one, well two, more like three for the team.
Sweet Jesus. That man.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 20, 2015 at 8:50 am #312880Jiminy’s Journal
ParticipantShamy are still broken up. God, get me to December.
Yeah, it would probably be a bit more dramatic if we didn’t know what was happening in December.
That aquarium scene, though!
But, on the bright side, Andy and Haley!
November 20, 2015 at 9:52 am #312882TheWatcher
ParticipantAbbie is dead
I haven’t watched that show since season 1 but…wow…..I…don’t know how I feel about that.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNovember 20, 2015 at 10:30 am #312885Josephine
ParticipantThat aquarium scene, though!
But, on the bright side, Andy and Haley!
Our cohorts here don’t watch many comedies but I do. I thought Andy/Haley (Modern Family) was very sweet. It’s taken them a while to get to this point so I hope they don’t jerk them around much more. Dylan just need to be gone permanently and I think Andy slips right in the family dynamic. (Not that I ship it, it’s against my rules, but I can be happy for them.)
As for Abbie, I don’t believe for a minute she’s dead. Ichabod and Jenny will rescue her. If she can escape purgatory then she can escape this. I will say the TVLine article with the showrunner was heavily shippy. While I love their friendship so, so much, I don’t ship them romantically. I can’t. I must keep my heart detatched.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
November 20, 2015 at 1:20 pm #312888WickedRegal
ParticipantThat aquarium scene, though! But, on the bright side, Andy and Haley!
Our cohorts here don’t watch many comedies but I do. I thought Andy/Haley (Modern Family) was very sweet. It’s taken them a while to get to this point so I hope they don’t jerk them around much more. Dylan just need to be gone permanently and I think Andy slips right in the family dynamic. (Not that I ship it, it’s against my rules, but I can be happy for them.)
Agreed 10000%! Who would’ve guessed it took running into her ex, when they were both on their date nights, and sitting through a movie that I guess was on The Notebook level, and then being trapped in a closet with him for what looked like a whole hour, for Haley to get back Andy. It’s not the perfect relationship but it’s better than what she had with what’s his name….though I have to admit, how much longer will those ducks be following Phil???!!
A Drama Show only list isn’t healthy for your feels guys!! You’ve gotta add some comedy in there to balance out the sourness with sweetness. 😛 Though I think we all can agree, no amount of laughter can help recover the shock and emotional roller coaster that was How To Get Away With Murder Winter Finale…..like….wow.
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