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so on my rewatch of season 1, i stumbled across episode 4 with cinderella. I will not even go into all the beautiful parallels (henry jumping out of the back seat just like Neal did etc.) but there was another foreshadowing that I didn’t notice the last time: in the EF Rumple tells cinderella that in order for him to help her go to the ball, she will owe him a favor. favor. weird. that’s exsactly what he wanted. not the baby but a favor. (that emma should have Bae talk to him) that whole episode was an obvious foreshadowing. it was almost babyish. it was so obvious that Rumple KNEW he will be imprisoned by snow and charming etc. Bae/Neal is so big in that show, it is just wow. why oh why did Hook ever come to this beautiful story? why? just to ruin it… by the way my last post was from http://oncereflections.com/rumplestilskinmr-gold-the-real-hero/#.VoSiAtBV_fU.tumblr its from the first season but it is SO WORTH THE READ!!!!!!! oh, yeah, and happy new year
and Hook probably poisoned everyone with love potion from his bottle of rum (which Pan gave him – i said it first)I agree with you and it did went that way in 3A.
Hook had nothing to do on the show after 3A, they force him into the story and ruining other characters in the process. Rumple is the character that suffered the most because of it.This.
[adrotate group="5"]I think when Hook first started out, he had potential as a character. I disliked him because of his actions towards Rumple and his poor treatment of Belle, but overall he had potential. Tallahassee was a good episode for him.
However problems started to arise with his character when they tried to force him into a role that didn’t suit him. The CSF love triangle was the first terrible thing to befall Once, however love triangles are nothing new.
The thing is you get two different love triangles:
1. The good suitor and the bad suitor
2. Two good suitors and the loser is paired up with another character that turns out to be a better fit for them.
CSF couldn’t decide if it wanted to be 1 or 2 so the results were out of sync with expectations on what should’ve happened. In 1, Hook was obviously the bad suitor compared to Neal’s good suitor (I’ve not got time right now to go into depth on the breakdown of this but Neal was the good suitor). In 2, whoever didn’t end up with Emma should’ve been paired with someone else. However Once screwed up for both scenarios. In 1, Emma ended up with the bad suitor. In 2, Neal was killed off instead of being paired with someone else. It was a lose/lose situation.
Hook’s character is not designed to be a romantic lead. He’s not designed to be heroic. At best, he’s that shady character who gives his services to the highest bidder. Neither side can trust him, they just have to make sure they offer the highest price. The whole Milah situation could’ve given Hook some depth eg that he did love someone deeply once and got burned, however they screwed it up by, not only having Hook destroy a family to get what he wanted, but also then claiming that he would’ve happily have given Milah back as “soiled” if Rumple had fought. That right there completely annihilates the Hook/Milah romance.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMore from Tumblr (but not Confess Upon a Time):
Young Bobby as Kai in The Snow Queen
An adorable piece by mahoushoujopia:
Happy New Year! So Ranisha, RG, and I might have done a bad thing last night. We plotted out Pride and Prejudice as a CS fic. The concept was what would Pride and Prejudice look like if it was series on TV today with a fandom following. Here were the results: –Wickham would be the hero. He has a lot of manpain. –Darcy would be considered mean, abusive, and not deserving of Lizzy. –The main ship of the show would obviously be Wickham/Lizzy. (Wizzy) –Lizzy forgives all of Wickham’s dastardly actions because he is just misunderstood and, of course, has manpain. –Wickham’s manpain originates from having to watch Darcy grow up with advantages and money while he is just a poor nobody. –Darcy would be shipped with Caroline Bingley because, of course, he doesn’t deserve Lizzy. We had more, but that was the gist of it. Sadly, this would probably happen.
#TeamWizzie
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Happy New Year!!!
For me is already starting well, went to see Star Wars and saw for the 1st time Finest hours trailer and was the one that has MRJ saying some lines.
Also i was thinking why would the media are now so writing articles exposing ouat problems and i came to realized that is probably ratings related.
The media are seing that they can now speak more openly, bc is now are not only the called”haters” ( that speak bad bc the ship didnt happened), that say bad things, GA is leaving ouat, the ratings show that and this means means they are not liking it anymore and i think the media knows that ouat buzz is dying, that new good shows are in the air or that will start soon, this means shows that fans want to know and give them eyeballs to read the articles, also they know ouat is old, so they are starting to write what the GA wants to hear, that the show is losing quality.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
I used to say and i guess i was right. Emma is really the new Milah, i talked to someone about this, and in this path they chosed for Emma, i know think the writers regret making Henry as Emma son, bc he doesnt fit on the “hot and sexy” couple. And in a way no henry would avoid the whole elephant in the room they keep avoiding with the Rumple and henry relationship, bc they seem like they are not even related at this point.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
So I know I’ve talked about Jessica Jones quite a bit in here over the past few months, but I thought I’d just leave these two quotes here. Because they might (are) relevant. Like a lot.
“Saving someone doesn’t mean unkilling someone else.” — Jessica to Kilgrave, Jessica Jones
“You don’t get credit for doing the right thing for the wrong reason.” — Jessica, Jessica Jones
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"–Wickham would be the hero. He has a lot of manpain.
*shudders in horror*
To be fair — and this is a totally vacuous comparison to Jane Austen’s fantastic and complex work — but wasn’t Bridget Jones’s Diary really a kind of modern musing (or, really, an AU fanfic) of P&P? As such, I think it has absolutely modern day sensibilities, and I don’t think most people shipped Bridget with Daniel Cleaver (the stand-in for Wickham). So maybe there’s hope for us yet (though, granted, it’s a over a decade old now, things might have changed).
CSF couldn’t decide if it wanted to be 1 or 2 so the results were out of sync with expectations on what should’ve happened. In 1, Hook was obviously the bad suitor compared to Neal’s good suitor
There is I think a 3rd scenario for the archetypical love triangle, and that’s the “bad” / “worse” version — for example, the spouse is “myeh”, but the suitor is worse. From the classics, it’s Madame Bovary, Anna Karenina, the Red and the Black, and Wuthering Heights and I’m sure a million variations since. The interesting thing about these examples at least is that they’re all about how the mythos of romantic love — passionate, starcrossed love as the ultimate justification for everything — is often a dangerous illusion, if not downright immoral or destructive. Anna K would have been better off if she’d never met Vronsky — she was tepidly, though not altogether unhappily married, and she was crazy about her kid. All that, of course, is torn apart once Vronsky begins his relentless pursuit — and the more I think about it, the more I think CS is so so similar to that story. Of course Tolstoy’s novel ends tragically.
I think that this 3rd type of tragic love triangle story is something we’re all familiar with, same as the two examples you give. The trouble is that some stories just shouldn’t be Disneyfied. By inserting an Anna Karenina-esque love triangle (CS) into OUAT, and then essentially making it into a happy ending AU, the writers aren’t just making the whole story absurd, they’ve kind of ventured into morally suspect territory. And in so many ways, Hook’s “origin story” with Milah and Rumple is yet another version of this type of love triangle. So by making the second variation of the same story into a successful love story it’s rewarding a character that has quite negative consequences for others.
The point is that you shouldn’t ship Anna and Vronsky, or Healthcliff and Catherine — they’re a terrible idea! So why doesn’t this come across for the CS portion of the fandom? Are they just very young viewers raised on Twilight, but not yet exposed to these more complex moral tales?
(Also, seriously, what’s next for A&E? Disney Lolita?)
Stop what your doing and look at this!
I just can’t. It’s so beautiful. I mean, just look at the notes.
Okay. Carry on.
Of course Tolstoy’s novel ends tragically
I support Hook and/or Emma throwing themselves in front of a train
Are they just very young viewers raised on Twilight, but not yet exposed to these more complex moral tales?
I don’t know the stats now, but I do know that a few years ago, the majority of OUAT watchers were women under the age of 35. That ultimate sweet spot of advertising, between the ages of 18 and 25, was especially high. So, yes, young but I don’t think they are so young that they’ve never read/watched any of those classic moral tales. I think a lot of it (sadly) comes down to the “Twilight effect” but not the series itself. The guy is super hot, described as perfect in every way while the object of his desire is a blank slate, perfect for audience insertion. And suddenly the guy can do no wrong because of said hottness and because the reader/viewer has inserted themselves in the place of the object of affection and being told by the author how that should feel. Hook is (apparently) super hot; Emma has always been our “everyman” for the audience caught up in the mythical world. CSers got caught up in the feeling of what it would be like to be “wooed” by Captain Hook when he looks like Colin. One of the best comebacks I ever heard against CS was to picture yourself being held down, sword at throat, being told that “when I jab you with my sword, you’ll feel it” but by the Dustin Hoffman version of Hook. Now do you still ship CS? Probably not. The act both versions of Hook commit are the same but one is romanticized and becomes a shippable moment because that Hook is hot. It’s what we, as women in this society, are told is acceptable and desirable. It’s the adult version of telling a little girl that a boy picks on her on the playground because “he likes her” and she shouldn’t fight back or put up resistance because then he won’t like her anymore.
Hey, look. I brought this back to rape culture.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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