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OK, where I live, if a boy snaps a girl’s bra on the playground, that boy would be expelled. It’s totally unacceptable, and it’s sexual harassment. Maybe this is why we don’t see eye to eye on this.
Locally it might be different place to place but in the broader society, that’s how men and women are treated. There are tons of stories on Tumblr about how girls get in trouble for defending their space when a boy does something but the boy doesn’t get in trouble at all. This is just one example to illustrate what aggressive/passive power and gender dynamics mean.
But apart from that example, we see this all the time in movies and TV. You yourself brought it with the cocky guy who always gets the girl. The guy is allowed carte blanche to do just about anything to win the object (object being used pretty deliberately here) of his affection. Look at Kilgrave on Jessica Jones and how he understands his harassment of Jessica vs how she does. To him, he has earned Jessica through his “devotion” and through everything he’s done for her but yet she remains the only thing (sorry, person) he can’t win over. Look at Ray Palmer on Arrow and his stalker like approach to Felicity, buying her gowns, forcing her to go to dinner’s, offering her jobs, and even the bizarre plot point of basically buying her entire job so she’s forced to work for him or something (@Phee and I even talked about it quite a bit not only in our Arrow thread we have here at the forums but also throughout SwanFire).
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"But it does speak to something that OUAT has been harping on a bit lately; that proper manhood is defined through aggression, violence and fighting. Rumple had to become a true hero by learning to fight with Merida and then fighting a bear for Belle as an example.
Well the Rumple and Merida story line and turning him into a hero was a train wreck. No doubt. , but it would be nice to see what changed Hook, and I don’t think having a corrupt ruler who wanted to use nightshade as a weapon is enough of a motivation to become a total butt face. And the revenge stuff for killing Milah is also getting old. I think it would help humanize Hook a bit and help understand his character a little more if we understood more about why he became the man with bad form. Or maybe I just don’t like the reasons the writers have already gave. Honestly, I used to really like Hook, so I’m struggling to figure out why I don’t like him as much anymore.
I think Hook Nd Gold are exact opposites. I think Rumple’s sin toward Hook was not so much that he killed Milah, but that a little, worthless, COWARD, who dared “stand up” to The Great And Honorable Captain Killian and ask for his wife back, came back years later with the upper hand. It’s like when a bully is picking on a nerd in school for years and then they meet as adults and that nerd is more successful AND he takes away his career or something. It STINGS and the bully HATES that guy more than ever
Oh….I think Rumple and Hook are cut from the same cloth.
They are both passionately devoted to their cause: one to finding Bae, one to avenging Milah.
They both love deeply: one to Belle, and one to Milah (I may not like him or her, but I’ll never deny that he truly loved her. In spite of the “soiled” line from the seasons I’m choosing to pretend didn’t happen).
They were both good fathers/father figures until what they desired got in the way: they both took care of/helped raise Bae but Rumple’s fear of the unknown/life without power and Hook’s lust for revenge prevented them from fully committing.
I think the biggest problem on the show with these two lately is the show’s tendency to cast dispersion on Rumple while casting sunshine and puppies on Hook even though the two do similar things…like be horrible Dark Ones. Or paralleling their actions and making one a hero and one a villain (like sacrificing themselves for the whole town…Rumple’s was to save everyone, Hook’s way to fix his own mistakes. But only one them got the entire town to save him and is being called a hero)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"These are the things we see in media all the time, and even in real life, because we are trained from a young age to believe that men being aggressive in their pursuits is okay and that women should simply accept it as a form of love. Think about this way: on the playground, we see a young boy harassing a young girl–snapping her bra, chasing her, teasing her, making fun of her, ect. What do we tell the young girl? That it means he likes her. Not that she has every right to defend her personal space, that his kind of action isn’t okay….but that it means the young boy likes her and she should go with it.
This example reminds me of the opening scene from the 2009 film He’s Just Not that Into You (starring Ginny Goodwin).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I’m sorry if this is off topic, but this is some special (beep)…..SQ can sink so low as to now make fun of a child just to show how much “better” their ship is. Oncers, we have reached a point of no return in this fandom….
Then ask for a picture of the kid…JUST TO CUT HIM OUT!
My faith in humanity has sunken a little lower…
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Here is the update chapter of the parody 5b rewrite:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11664406/5/What-the-Hell-5B-Speculation-Parody
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