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December 11, 2013 at 10:17 pm #229813
RumplesGirl
KeymasterI’m ignoring social media. I don’t want to know what people are saying. I want to bask.
BASK ALL OF YOU
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm #229814Twice Upon A Time
ParticipantNeal is a lover not a fighter- he always loved Emma just like Emma said “I love and I probably always will” But during the Tamara-Neal-Emma situation yes Neal loved Emma but what kind of person would he be if he left his”caring” fiancé “who has always been with him” for the ex-girlfriend he never stopped loving? He didn’t want to be that guy
Side Note I wanted your opinion if Milah came back what would Hook do? Would he pursue Emma or go back to Milah?
December 11, 2013 at 10:23 pm #229815AtlanticaDream
ParticipantSo I just finished my first fan video! I hope you all like it!
Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers
December 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm #229816RumplesGirl
KeymasterSide Note I wanted your opinion if Milah came back what would Hook do? Would he pursue Emma or go back to Milah?
Hmmm. I have no idea.
But a thought has occurred to me as of late. If Milah could see Hook now, the way he is treating Neal, what would she say? I’m honestly curious. Because she did love her son even if she ran out.
Atlantica: lovely video!!!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm #229817Slurpeez
ParticipantBASK ALL OF YOU
*Basking!!!*
Like you, I’m just so happy that Neal got a poster, any poster, and I’m doubly happy that it’s belief in his second chance! And we all know what Neal considers to be his second chance: another go at things with Emma and Henry! He said so in 3×3!
So I just finished my first fan video! I hope you all like it!
Nice video and great song selection!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm #229819AtlanticaDream
ParticipantThanks guys! I’ve had it in my head forever and finally was able to figure out how! lol
Proud Keeper of the Dinglehoppers
December 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm #229820Phee
ParticipantLooks like I’ve got a few pages to get caught up on in here, but just had to get this out of my system first…THEY ACTUALLY MADE THE NEAL POSTER OFFICIAL, WITH THE SECOND CHANCES TAGLINE AND EVERYTHING, I AM STUNNED AND ELATED!! *HAPPY DANCE*
Ahem…OK…now going back to read the last few pages of discussion…carry on…
December 11, 2013 at 11:06 pm #229828kfchimera
ParticipantKeb –I agree–let’s be clear, up until the moment she ran into “Gold’s son”, Emma herself thought she didn’t want to see Neal based on what she thought were the reasons he’d left. Neal knew how it looked to her and was right about how she felt. If he had gone after her, if he had been willing to face his fears of rejection, it is quite possible she just wouldn’t have been able to let down her guard and really believe the story he was telling her–because who knows how in magic-fueled SB that would have played out between Rumple and Regina.
In an odd way, his being with Tamara allowed her to slowly believe him as he wasn’t just saying what she wanted to hear to get back in her good graces. He wasn’t just trying to be around her for Henry’s sake either. So everything he was saying, from his point of view, were things he was saying because they were true, because he had to say them, even though he knew it changed nothing romantically between them. No, he wasn’t “choosing” her–but she had made clear within seconds of his reentering his life that she was not a choice. So she could see these qualities in him, wanting to be a good father and husband, and even a (still angry but loving) son, but they weren’t things he sort of pretended to have in order to impress her–they were just real qualities of the man he’d grown into being.
Once Tamara betrayed Neal, that’s when Neal felt free to do something about his feelings for Emma, aside from the not-so-little problem of realizing she was in Nl. This whole time, he’s realized that this is harder on her than him in many ways, as he was the one who left, he was the one who had tried to move on to that extent, and he was the one who didn’t say how he felt the instant he saw her again. He was also the one that “died”–she had to go through the pain of mourning him, while at the same time enduring the kidnapping of her son.
So with all that, Neal has been approaching Emma with very low expectations. He loves her, and he knows how difficult it must be for her. I’m not sure what state he’s in after their almost-non-date-date. I believe Charming didn’t “push” her to going, just pushed her to stop fearing happiness. She’s the one who decided maybe Neal could be a good moment until of course Pan struck.
I cannot wait to see what happens, and in what way Neal is getting or giving a “second chance” but I really hope it does have something to do with Emma.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
December 11, 2013 at 11:19 pm #229829Phee
ParticipantOK, all caught up now, and I wanna hug the last several pages of this thread because all your posts are amazing.
I can’t imagine there being any reason other than the swan pendant for Neal to have his hand in his pocket in the OFFICIAL promo photo. It would be fitting for it to re-appear in 314, but they’re using this pic to promo the first half of the season, which ends with 311. So do we dare to get our hopes up that it could possibly make an appearance in the mid-season finale? Maybe it’ll end up being some sort of key to unlock and undo the NewCurse, if it does end up being cast properly, (which I’m not convinced it will be yet, but if we can work the swan pendant into that storyline, then I’d be totally cool with that NewCurse doing its worst).
AtlanticaDream, great vid, the lyrics match so perfectly to the scenes you used.
astrawoid, your long post back on page 246, I wish to marry it!
Swanfire are like the stars, beautiful magical and endearing, they may be hidden in the day light but when you are in your darkest point they shine the brightest. After the fireworks have fade the stars remain steady. They provide direction, guidance, and hope. Its no wonder when Emma saw the stars on the cave’s ceiling; she thought of home. When you are lost, the stars can guide you home.
This is beautiful!!
Side Note I wanted your opinion if Milah came back what would Hook do? Would he pursue Emma or go back to Milah?
Hmmm. I have no idea.
But a thought has occurred to me as of late. If Milah could see Hook now, the way he is treating Neal, what would she say? I’m honestly curious. Because she did love her son even if she ran out.
I’m not really sure what would happen if Milah showed up alive. On the one hand, she’s the great love of his life, so he’d probably want to rush back to her. On the other hand, he’s mourned her and wanted revenge for her death for so long, she’s almost taken on a mythical quality for him, so would he even be able to interact with her on an actual human level and have the same relationship they used to have? I would hope that she’d be appalled by how he’s treated her son, but then, she left her son in the first place, so the jury has always been out for me on how much Bae really meant to her.
December 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm #229830CrownedWithLaurels
Participant*throws confetti*
*passes out noisemakers*Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
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