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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 12, 2017 at 5:33 pm #332589
    hjbau
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    It is the only thing that makes sense because Emma and Hook’s relationship has been written as the worst thing that has ever happened to Emma. This is the swanfire appreciation thread, where we appreciate swanfire and not captain swan.

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    January 12, 2017 at 5:45 pm #332590
    hjbau
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    hjbau wrote:

    There is no reason to care about the fans. The writers of this show do not care about the fans.Quote

    I disagree. I think the writers of Once care alot about the fans. In interviews, I think it is obvious to hear that they care for the fanbase of Once. Maybe too much even- that is part of the reason their storylines gets so screwed up sometimes, because they try to give the fans everything they want. Or atleast they try to give us lots of stuff.. To some fans (myself included all that stuff is just too much) to other fans, the stuff is just the wrong thing, because they wished for something else… but the writers can not please everyone.

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    I think that the writers have attempted to cater to the fans to keep viewers watching the show. I don’t think the writers care about the fans. As i have said elsewhere, i think they believe there fans are nothing but a bunch of insane, screaming fifteen year old girls and they talk about their fans like they are that. Adam is disrespectful on twitter. They are both disrespectful in interviews at times. They write as if their audience is stupid instead of actually writing a well thought out, character driven plot.

    Though, they are bad writers as well. They do not keep track of their world building and so the show makes no sense and the characters act like morons. The lack of consistency around the sleeping curse and true loves kiss has become such a problem for the show over the years. The writers of this show don’t think we want flawed consistent characters, well thought out plots, good and consistent world building. They think we want hot couples kissing and having babies.

    January 12, 2017 at 6:42 pm #332595
    RumplesGirl
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    I think A and E care about the fans SO LONG AS the fans praise the show. These two have *never* been good at listening to criticism and moreover understanding that criticism. When criticism does come their way, they tend to dismiss it quickly with “we hope you like what we have coming!” or “sorry you feel that way!” Some of this is because their only interactions with fans are in Twitter form where meaningful dialogue is limited to a 140 characters. But a lot of it comes back down to certain white heterosexual male conditioning that they do no wrong and instead it’s the viewers who simply “don’t get it” (it being their vision, their ideas, their story.)

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 12, 2017 at 11:29 pm #332599
    WickedRegal
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    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    January 13, 2017 at 5:21 pm #332612
    thedarkonedearie
    Participant

    This is the swanfire appreciation thread, where we appreciate swanfire and not captain swan.

    This is the swanfire appreciate thread, not the bash captainswan thread and make outrageous claims where because you hate CS, you think the only logical thing for Emma’s character to end with is for her breaking up with somebody they have held as her bf for almost 3 seasons.  At the end of the day, Emma’s final bow should have something to do with being the Savior.  It shouldn’t have anything to do with Hook.  But they also shouldn’t just break them up.  What would that say about all the time they put into keeping this relationship together for the last few seasons?

    January 13, 2017 at 10:48 pm #332615
    hjbau
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    It would say that it was a bad relationship for Emma. It has been written as a bad relationship. They are not true loves and Emma has lost part of herself by being with Hook. If this show made sense they would break up. This show does not make sense so that will not happen. I am not saying that what is logical will happen, but what would be well written and logical exists outside of what is actually happening on the show.

    I have seen many shows where characters date for years and then break up because relationships don’t work out, people change, people want different things out of life. It is not a stretch. Their relationship is toxic and should not exist. If this show was about characters that were written like real people, then that is what would happen.

    Also, Emma and Hook have only been dating two seasons, not three, or two and a half now, sort of and it has been what six months in timeline, so it isn’t the end all, be all of relationships. Also, this is the safe place where we can say that Emma being with Hook is bad and we want her to be with Neal because guess what they make way more sense then Emma being with Hook.

    January 13, 2017 at 11:34 pm #332618
    Bar Farer
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    hjbau wrote:

    This is the swanfire appreciation thread, where we appreciate swanfire and not captain swan.

    This is the swanfire appreciate thread, not the bash captainswan thread and make outrageous claims where because you hate CS, you think the only logical thing for Emma’s character to end with is for her breaking up with somebody they have held as her bf for almost 3 seasons. At the end of the day, Emma’s final bow should have something to do with being the Savior. It shouldn’t have anything to do with Hook. But they also shouldn’t just break them up. What would that say about all the time they put into keeping this relationship together for the last few seasons?

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    It would say that the only purpose of this relationship is fanservice, and A&E no longer care about fans. I don’t think they’re in denial about season 7 being the final season, in that case the eyes of CSers won’t matter to them.

    I kind of hope that the show continues to season 7 without Emma Swan, it wil prove to everyone that:

    1. A&E are talentless hacks who will continue doing the show as long as abc lets them, even if it means to continue without their main lead.

    2. They never had any plans for the ending.

    "All your questions are pointless"

    January 13, 2017 at 11:44 pm #332620
    onceaholic
    Participant

    I think A and E care about the fans SO LONG AS the fans praise the show. These two have *never* been good at listening to criticism and moreover understanding that criticism. When criticism does come their way, they tend to dismiss it quickly with “we hope you like what we have coming!” or “sorry you feel that way!” Some of this is because their only interactions with fans are in Twitter form where meaningful dialogue is limited to a 140 characters. But a lot of it comes back down to certain white heterosexual male conditioning that they do no wrong and instead it’s the viewers who simply “don’t get it” (it being their vision, their ideas, their story.)

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    this!

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    January 14, 2017 at 12:23 am #332623
    hjbau
    Participant

    I don’t think they have a plan for the ending. I don’t think they know how they are going to end this season let alone the series as a whole.

    January 14, 2017 at 12:25 am #332624
    Bar Farer
    Participant

    I don’t think they have a plan for the ending. I don’t think they know how they are going to end this season let alone the series as a whole.

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    No, they really don’t. Moreover, they don’t even care.

    "All your questions are pointless"

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