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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 31, 2017 at 9:57 am #332912
    thedarkonedearie
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    Well now the conversation is slipping into the other problem the show has……and that’s the ridiculous family tree.  It was fun and cute at first, but if everyone is related somehow, it presents challenges when they need characters to have civilized conversations.  They forget the past just to get through the conversation A&E need to build the current storyline.  Still, doesn’t mean they didn’t do a better job this year than past years in regards to character moments and slowing down the plot a bit.  There are still problems, but at least it wasn’t all of them going to a new realm, having a goal of taking down the bad guy of that realm, taking them down, and returning.

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    February 1, 2017 at 5:21 pm #332948
    WickedRegal
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    Well now the conversation is slipping into the other problem the show has……and that’s the ridiculous family tree. It was fun and cute at first, but if everyone is related somehow, it presents challenges when they need characters to have civilized conversations. They forget the past just to get through the conversation A&E need to build the current storyline. Still, doesn’t mean they didn’t do a better job this year than past years in regards to character moments and slowing down the plot a bit. There are still problems, but at least it wasn’t all of them going to a new realm, having a goal of taking down the bad guy of that realm, taking them down, and returning.

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    This!

    That’s why Season 1 was one of the most successful seasons…yes you had a villain and a goal to break the curse, but the front stage storyline was about fairy tale characters living day to day lives in a small town, each having their own issues and facing them. That’s the root OUAT needs to get back to. We need to see the core family discussing their issues, actually working out their problems, instead of always being distracted by the next villain coming around the corner.

    Show us Regina and Zelena having therapy with Archie, Emma opening more up to David and Snow over a brief lunch at Granny’s, show us Hook going out and finding his own place in Storybrooke aside from being the Savior’s boyfriend, show us Rumple choosing to help Belle run the library as a start to repairing their relationship, heck, Henry facing issues at school over how dysfunctional his family tree is.

    Adam and Eddy just need to tone it down on all the magic McGuffins, all the realm hopping, all the villain shows up-villain threatens-fight villain-kill villain-next villain scenarios…and just go back to basics.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    February 1, 2017 at 6:59 pm #332952
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I really need a scene of Henry trying to explain his family tree.

    “My mom is Emma and my dad is Neal. He is also called Baelfire; he originally came from the Enchanted Forest but left when his dad–my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin–became the Dark One. Grandpa did this after his wife, my grandma Milah, left him to run off with the pirate, Captain Hook. He’s dating my mom now. Hook, my kinda sorta step-grandfather, not my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin. Though both are equally weird and incestuous. Fun fact! My kinda sorta step-grandfather Hook sold my father Baelfire to Peter Pan in Neverland. Turns out…Peter Pan? Totally my great grandfather. Isn’t that neat? Peter Pan was once called Malcolm and he had some sort of relationship with the Black Fairy. She’s my great grandmother. I’m part fairy! My grandpa Rumple got re married to a nice girl named Belle; they have a new son. His name is Gideon and he’s my…uncle? Step uncle? Now on the other side of my family tree, my mom’s dad is David. He was a farmer. He had a twin but the twin got sold by my Great Grandma Ruth and my other (non step) great grandfather. I don’t know his name. He died in a drunk wagon accident. The twin, my great uncle, was named James. He was raised by King George who is sort of my great grandfather? Who knows, really. Continuing on….my mom’s mom is Snow White. She was born to my other great grandparents Leo and Ava. Ava died when grandma Snow was little and Great Grandpa married Regina. Here’s another really super duper fun fact! Regina’s mom Cora, my non-biological grandma and step Great Great Grandma (more on that in a second!) almost married my Great-Great Grandpa Leo! They like totally made out and stuff. Leo didn’t like her that much in the end and she ended up marrying Henry who is both my grandpa and my step great great grandpa! I’m named after him. Neat, right? Oh. I almost forgot. My step great grandma, Regina? She’s my other mom!”

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 1, 2017 at 7:55 pm #332955
    Rainbow
    Participant

    Gideon and he’s my…uncle?

    That wants to kill my mother Emma and my adoptive aunt zelena that is the wicked witch of the west killed my father.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    February 1, 2017 at 9:43 pm #332959
    WickedRegal
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    “My mom is Emma and my dad is Neal. He is also called Baelfire; he originally came from the Enchanted Forest but left when his dad–my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin–became the Dark One. Grandpa did this after his wife, my grandma Milah, left him to run off with the pirate, Captain Hook. He’s dating my mom now. Hook, my kinda sorta step-grandfather, not my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin. Though both are equally weird and incestuous. Fun fact! My kinda sorta step-grandfather Hook sold my father Baelfire to Peter Pan in Neverland. Turns out…Peter Pan? Totally my great grandfather. Isn’t that neat? Peter Pan was once called Malcolm and he had some sort of relationship with the Black Fairy. She’s my great grandmother. I’m part fairy! My grandpa Rumple got re married to a nice girl named Belle; they have a new son. His name is Gideon and he’s my…uncle? Step uncle? Now on the other side of my family tree, my mom’s dad is David. He was a farmer. He had a twin but the twin got sold by my Great Grandma Ruth and my other (non step) great grandfather. I don’t know his name. He died in a drunk wagon accident. The twin, my great uncle, was named James. He was raised by King George who is sort of my great grandfather? Who knows, really. Continuing on….my mom’s mom is Snow White. She was born to my other great grandparents Leo and Ava. Ava died when grandma Snow was little and Great Grandpa married Regina. Here’s another really super duper fun fact! Regina’s mom Cora, my non-biological grandma and step Great Great Grandma (more on that in a second!) almost married my Great-Great Grandpa Leo! They like totally made out and stuff. Leo didn’t like her that much in the end and she ended up marrying Henry who is both my grandpa and my step great great grandpa! I’m named after him. Neat, right? Oh. I almost forgot. My step great grandma, Regina? She’s my other mom!”

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    We need this scene so badly!!!! Poor Henry, I hope he’s not on a time limit because he still has to explain Belle’s parents, Aunt Zelena & cousin/almost step-sister Robyn, Hook’s half brother, and whomever’s bound to be included in the family before the series ends. LOL

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    February 2, 2017 at 1:01 pm #332983
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    Pinocchio is kind-of, sort-of my mom’s brother, and the Snow Queen Ingrid was my her foster mother. Her nieces are Anna and Elsa! Of course, Anna almost married Prince Hans of the Southern Isles, but did you know that Ingrid’s other sister almost married the Duke of Weaseltown? Oh, and something weird is going on between Rumpel and the evil side of Regina, even though he also had a thing with Cora, who I should probably mention is the Queen of Hearts. She tutored Anastasia, the Red Queen, now the White Queen, who married Will Scarlet, both a Knave of Hearts (yes, there were two) and one of Robin Hood’s Merry Men (Robin Hood was Regina’s soulmate, according to Tinkerbell). Also regarding Anastasia, she worked with Jafar to become powerful sorcerers, but Jafar’s teacher, staff, and former lover Amara was actually trying to find her genie sons, one of whom later married Alice. Another genie was Regina’s magic mirror. Apparently Anastasia is NOT Cinderella’s stepsister, despite all evidence to the contrary. Oh, and Jafar is the Sultan’s illegitimate son.

    February 2, 2017 at 2:31 pm #332985
    thedarkonedearie
    Participant

    “My mom is Emma and my dad is Neal. He is also called Baelfire; he originally came from the Enchanted Forest but left when his dad–my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin–became the Dark One. Grandpa did this after his wife, my grandma Milah, left him to run off with the pirate, Captain Hook. He’s dating my mom now. Hook, my kinda sorta step-grandfather, not my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin. Though both are equally weird and incestuous. Fun fact! My kinda sorta step-grandfather Hook sold my father Baelfire to Peter Pan in Neverland. Turns out…Peter Pan? Totally my great grandfather. Isn’t that neat? Peter Pan was once called Malcolm and he had some sort of relationship with the Black Fairy. She’s my great grandmother. I’m part fairy! My grandpa Rumple got re married to a nice girl named Belle; they have a new son. His name is Gideon and he’s my…uncle? Step uncle? Now on the other side of my family tree, my mom’s dad is David. He was a farmer. He had a twin but the twin got sold by my Great Grandma Ruth and my other (non step) great grandfather. I don’t know his name. He died in a drunk wagon accident. The twin, my great uncle, was named James. He was raised by King George who is sort of my great grandfather? Who knows, really. Continuing on….my mom’s mom is Snow White. She was born to my other great grandparents Leo and Ava. Ava died when grandma Snow was little and Great Grandpa married Regina. Here’s another really super duper fun fact! Regina’s mom Cora, my non-biological grandma and step Great Great Grandma (more on that in a second!) almost married my Great-Great Grandpa Leo! They like totally made out and stuff. Leo didn’t like her that much in the end and she ended up marrying Henry who is both my grandpa and my step great great grandpa! I’m named after him. Neat, right? Oh. I almost forgot. My step great grandma, Regina? She’s my other mom!”

    This is too amazing to even adequately respond to.

    February 2, 2017 at 7:13 pm #333049
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Poor Henry, I hope he’s not on a time limit because he still has to explain Belle’s parents, Aunt Zelena & cousin/almost step-sister Robyn, Hook’s half brother, and whomever’s bound to be included in the family before the series ends. LOL

    I can’t lie: I 100% forgot about Zelena/Robin/Robyn because I was too busy trying to figure out all the greats and great greats.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 2, 2017 at 9:57 pm #333064
    WickedRegal
    Participant
    WickedRegal wrote:

    Poor Henry, I hope he’s not on a time limit because he still has to explain Belle’s parents, Aunt Zelena & cousin/almost step-sister Robyn, Hook’s half brother, and whomever’s bound to be included in the family before the series ends. LOL

    I can’t lie: I 100% forgot about Zelena/Robin/Robyn because I was too busy trying to figure out all the greats and great greats.

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    LOL! It’s impossible to remember the entire family tree, ABC needs to release an official poster with everybody on it! X)

    We cannot be denied a Henry’s Family Tree school project!

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    February 9, 2017 at 11:01 pm #333165
    bibliophile
    Participant

    I really need a scene of Henry trying to explain his family tree. “My mom is Emma and my dad is Neal. He is also called Baelfire; he originally came from the Enchanted Forest but left when his dad–my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin–became the Dark One. Grandpa did this after his wife, my grandma Milah, left him to run off with the pirate, Captain Hook. He’s dating my mom now. Hook, my kinda sorta step-grandfather, not my grandpa, Rumplestiltskin. Though both are equally weird and incestuous. Fun fact! My kinda sorta step-grandfather Hook sold my father Baelfire to Peter Pan in Neverland. Turns out…Peter Pan? Totally my great grandfather. Isn’t that neat? Peter Pan was once called Malcolm and he had some sort of relationship with the Black Fairy. She’s my great grandmother. I’m part fairy! My grandpa Rumple got re married to a nice girl named Belle; they have a new son. His name is Gideon and he’s my…uncle? Step uncle? Now on the other side of my family tree, my mom’s dad is David. He was a farmer. He had a twin but the twin got sold by my Great Grandma Ruth and my other (non step) great grandfather. I don’t know his name. He died in a drunk wagon accident. The twin, my great uncle, was named James. He was raised by King George who is sort of my great grandfather? Who knows, really. Continuing on….my mom’s mom is Snow White. She was born to my other great grandparents Leo and Ava. Ava died when grandma Snow was little and Great Grandpa married Regina. Here’s another really super duper fun fact! Regina’s mom Cora, my non-biological grandma and step Great Great Grandma (more on that in a second!) almost married my Great-Great Grandpa Leo! They like totally made out and stuff. Leo didn’t like her that much in the end and she ended up marrying Henry who is both my grandpa and my step great great grandpa! I’m named after him. Neat, right? Oh. I almost forgot. My step great grandma, Regina? She’s my other mom!”

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    Again this really is great and a speech like this (maybe to Violet?) would be very funny.

     

    RumplesGirl wrote:

    Gideon and he’s my…uncle?

    That wants to kill my mother Emma and my adoptive aunt zelena that is the wicked witch of the west killed my father.

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    Absolutely insert this line and add to it

    …my adoptive aunt zelena that is the wicked witch of the west killed my father …and I guess we’re all OK with that now.

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