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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 8, 2017 at 11:42 am #333911
    hjbau
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    I didn’t remember that. Hook and Gideon are trying to replace, but it is impossible. Neal is one of the characters, like Emma, that isn’t replaceable. His death is one of the reasons this show just doesn’t work anymore and it never will.

    I still think it makes no sense at all that Emma would not wear the necklace. It is out of character, but Emma dating Hook is out of character. It is just one of many things that make no sense.

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    March 9, 2017 at 11:21 pm #334008
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Hook and Gideon are trying to replace, but it is impossible. Neal is one of the characters, like Emma, that isn’t replaceable. His death is one of the reasons this show just doesn’t work anymore and it never will.

    Agreed 100%

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 10, 2017 at 10:42 am #334017
    Rainbow
    Participant

    I decided to ask this here, bc in other thread people may push this to ship wars, and how we are always complaining just bc we may not like ships like CS and our ship didn`t happened and since the fandom is so pushing some guy as adult Hnery and some Cs kid, i want to ask the question below

    Who do you think is going to leave the show, if they get a S7?

    Sometime ago i would say that Jmo would not leave, but at this moment i see her with more chances of leaving than Bobby, although i also think he may leave, which if he does, may make Emilie leaving too, i also read rumours a while ago that some fan meet GOSH in Vancouver and she asked them if a S7 would happen and that they said to the fan, that if it happen, they would not be on it, also the recent rumours running online say that, the only ones wanting to return to a S7 if it happens, are Colin and Bex. In this worst case scenario to certain fans, if only Colin and Bex, do you still think that the latest fandom push that some adult Hnery and some cS daughter are possible theories, or in that case all theories make no sense, bc they would need past actors that they won`t get, or you think is possible to happen.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 10, 2017 at 10:52 am #334019
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    I think it’s a load of crock. That man is not an adult CS child just based on the casting calls. The character description matches Henry, who has the heart of the truest believer and is already a developed character. He’s clearly Henry as an adult. Just look at him next to a picture of Jared Gilmore. Even if the girl were the adopted daughter of CS, would the CSers really want that? She comes from a broken home (i.e. divorce); some people just have no sense and are desperate to have their fave couple procreate that they’ll say any new character could be a potential CS baby (even when she is clearly Latina and not their biological child).

    It’s never enough for them that Emma already has a son because Henry is also Neal’s son and not the beloved pirate’s son. No matter what, Henry will never think of the pirate as his father — he said as much in 6×6 and rejected him as his father figure. Henry doesn’t even need another father figure anyway because he has Grandpa Charming, who is a much better male influence than Hook.

    Also, Henry being the star of the next season just makes a lot of sense. He’s central to the story as the author. He has the heart of the truest believer. We know that he was born of true love, the way Emma was. And that is what is really the source of the problem for CS fans. Henry was born of true love. He is a hero and the son of the savior. He is special the way Emma is special. He’s potentially a savior too.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 10, 2017 at 7:24 pm #334042
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    There are only two options as far as I’m concerned

    It’s either Henry and his daughter OR they are a brand new set of characters designed to mimic Emma and Henry because both JMo and Jared are leaving at the end of 6 and the writers need to quickly endear these newbies to the audience. The former is far more likely than the latter

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2017 at 8:57 pm #334059
    hjbau
    Participant

    I think it is possible that the actors probably want one more season and then that is it and that could be a sticking point. I also think that they are unhappy with where the plot has gone. Both Jennifer and Robert have said that they were upset about the loss of Neal. I think you can see them trying to reel Jennifer back in each year, with the Frozen plot which was pretty Emma heavy, and then the Dark One plot which then ended up not being about Emma. I think she has been repeatedly disappointed and she wants it to be done or wants to know that there is an end in sight now. Like she said, Jennifer likes her character and wants to finish her out, but she is ready to do other things.

    I think the fact that they are still talking makes it much more likely that we are going to lose Jennifer. She wants something and they might not be willing to give it. And if the three of them, Jennifer, Lana, and Robert have some sort of sticking point then it seems even more likely that Jennifer might be done. She has the least reason to stay at this point. She doesn’t have kids and she has other opportunities. I think Robert has been done for years, since Neal died, but as he has said in the past, it is a good pay check and his kids go to school there, so it is much more complicated for him.

    For me though, it is much more complicated to talk about the plot reasons for who those two new characters could be. They could be anyone. They could be an adult Henry or adult baby Neal. It is also possible that they are just some new characters. They could be Hook’s son. They could be anyone because i really think it is going to depend on who stays and who goes.

    March 11, 2017 at 6:53 pm #334086
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    This was the original plan and I don't care what's been said or done since then. #Swanfire pic.twitter.com/SWK6jXGLin

    — Z. David Van Norman (@exzachly815) March 11, 2017

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 11, 2017 at 10:03 pm #334091
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    THAT!

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 12, 2017 at 9:57 am #334095
    Rainbow
    Participant

    Both Jennifer and Robert have said that they were upset about the loss of Neal.

    Nope, Emilie and Robert said that, after 315 Jmo words about Neal were, that he only had 2 options, or end with Emma or if Sf didnt worked his only end would be dying, in a way to pay for his sins for what he did to Emma, bc if he was alive and Sf didnt worked, Emma would never move on to someone else, she never once said nothing about SF actually or neal. In fact JMo barely speaks about Neal or even about MRJ, of course she is never asked about them, but she not even said anything about 512 scene.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 12, 2017 at 10:02 am #334096
    Rainbow
    Participant

    The only way that new character is adult Henry is if for example Black fairy takes him to dark realm and a new gideon story and then he returns and for that Jmo, Lana, hook , maybe rumple have to stay, also i don`t think the girl is related to him, i would see more she being Hook daughter with Tiger lily and maybe TL dies and confesses the secret and Hook brings the girl home, or she is a oprhan that lives in SB and Regina adopts her, or she is simply an orphan, like TV line suggest a sort of Annie, without connection to past characters, especially if they want to set new storylines without having to still count with flashbacks of the present characters and add new ones.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

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