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I cant even react to this, because at this stage its clear the writers are off their rocker with their own characters and their established moral system.
See what I thought was going to happen was: Bae was going to get the dagger and cause Rumpel to change Beowolf into an actual monster. Ya know, the whole outter beauty fits the inner ugliness thing. It would have been appropriate since beauty and the beast just came out, and Grendel is a real established character in WL, so it could have worked if someone they managed to weave these things together (Beowolf pretending to be a monster named Grendel really becomes a monster named Grendel).
But holy kelp cakes, they have him kill the guy? What…..are the writers….even….how do they rationalize? And then whats worse is that he feels no remorse over it, hes enjoying it. Hes justifying it.
I would have understood if Bae was forced to do it because Beo was attacking him, I would have understood if he did it and then realized how bad dark magic is and that only pushes him further away from it. But…I don’t know. I cant even right now. This is one of those many moments where you can tell the writers didn’t plan something in advance and just pulled it out of their hats to move the story along.
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Yeah, the hell was this?! I can literally think of five different ways in which they could have written something in that vein without utterly ruining Bae’s character. I think they did this maliciously and on purpose.
The last time I felt like they totally character assassinated him was the night Nealfire died. And once again it was about how Bae/Neal would never recklessly use dark magic.
This is total garbage. They still tried to ruin Bae’s character posthumously. What is this show?
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This^^^^^^^^
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Also, RB fans are pissed, bc appears she said to rumple for the 1st time you put your son 1st, when they actually say, He became dark one for Bae and later on 315 he gave his dagger to zelena to try to save Neal.
Thsi was all done to make Hook and Gideon look better, or to make Bae as bad as they.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Also, RB fans are pissed, bc appears she said to rumple for the 1st time you put your son 1st, when they actually say, He became dark one for Bae and later on 315 he gave his dagger to zelena to try to save Neal.
THis is their way, im telling u of making Hook look good.
I actually think they do it to make Rumple look good and that’s because RC is leaving, they want his ending to be positive (whether it is by sacrificing himself like 311 or HEA with Belle and their child). They try to fix 3 seasons of assassinating Rumple’s character (and yes that was because they wanted Hook to look good in comparison) by assassinating Baelfire’s.
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I for once after all their statements about Bae/Neal being a HERO after 315, never thought they would say he is a murderer and greedy for power, at this point i would not even surprise if they retcon also SF, and say was a abusive and neal is not Henry father, actually wi would have even prefer them to say Bae was not Rumple son, but that Rumple still love him as one, heck at this point even Hook being bae father would be more welcome, than a kid being a cold blooded murderer and greedy for power.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
Also, i posted this on another thread and will post it here:
Also, let´s not forget that that in S5 they also said neal was on a quest to destroy magic.
This was a retcon to make other characters look good or like i saw online other people saying, to make him as bad as other characters, there is no arguments for that, this also destroyed the only storyline that was still good in the show, that was Rumple and Bae and by doing that, sort of make all their epis, look like trash.
Also, Neal actions in our world were made because of need, you steal to eat, because you have no food, if was self defense, like THEWAtcher said, but i also agree with her, but there is no past saying about just because you have the dagger you get corrupted by it, like Belle on S4 showed, the only way this cpuld work was with the villains and they were corrupted already and no, a memory potion makes you forget, but your values, your instincts are still there, in fact if the dagger had that power, means that would still be calling Bae when they were at home and it would make Bae kill Rumple and became the dark one, not using the dark one to kill someone else.
The only thing that could amend this, was them revealing Bae was not bae at all and only someone pretending to be him, like the black fairy, which by the way, they wont, but would love to know why she didn´t tried to take Bae instead on Gideon?
Also, are you telling me, that this Bae with a dark soul, is the one without unfinished business, that went straight to heaven, bc he was such good person?
So let´s admit and stop trying to find reasons, like i said before this was done to make other characters look better than him and to say that he totally deserved to die and he was not the hero people say he was, this was OOC, this was a RETCON, just like someone point out on tumblr, just like Snowing.
"I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
I actually think they do it to make Rumple look good and that’s because RC is leaving, they want his ending to be positive (whether it is by sacrificing himself like 311 or HEA with Belle and their child). They try to fix 3 seasons of assassinating Rumple’s character (and yes that was because they wanted Hook to look good in comparison) by assassinating Baelfire’s.
Yup this. And I like Rumple so I’m ok with it.
“My son would never try to use me”
That’s a loaded statement though. If Baelfire was manipulated by the darkness of the dagger, which has shown it’s influence before, it’s hard to say that it was Baelfire’s fault, or even that Rumple was wrong for saying that about his son.
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