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Parallels are comparisons, and like any comparison only as good as the thought process behind it. You can make analogies between, well, anything but that two things are alike in some qualities doesn’t mean they’re the same in every quality.
How would anyone really know what most SFers ship in WL? I happen to like Cylice, but I don’t really feel Will and Ana. The few SF tumblr blogs I see do not really talk about either.
I also thought of Neal and Emma with the sacrifice line, but in the end, there are elements we can draw comparisons to on that part for both ships if we wanted to be fair about it as we were supposed to try to be on CSF. The writers tried hard from the end of last season to please fans clamoring for CS by writing things in that allowed Emma to get to an emotional place of developing feelings for Hook. Some still believe Emma instantly had feelings, love at first sight, but I think Emma just noticed an attractive man, noticing her. Given her lonely life, that’s hard to resist, because Hook’s brand of connecting with people is that he uses half-truths, things he overhears and his ability at reading people to try to say what they want to hear. Exhibit A–how he spoke to Belle in the tower. Exhibit B–how he spoke to Regina in the mines. Exhibit C–how he spoke to Bae on his ship. Sometimes people realize he’s manipulating them, and call him on it. Sometimes they connect with the real desire he has to be liked, and are charmed by him to some degree.
I think the writers are going for making both Hook and Neal as “viable” candidates this season, but this last moment with Hook and Tink really veered from the theme in a big way. Maybe that’s just setting up “trouble” for a reversal where Emma’s jealousy leads her to realize she’s fallen for Hook and that’s how we go out on the break. Or it sets her up to realize that despite Hook seeming genuine, perhaps even being genuine on one-level, that in other ways, he was still a bit calculating in how he presented himself to her, but it doesn’t even matter because her heart is still with Neal and always will be. We’ll just have to see.
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
‘She always wanted a place to call home. I am her home now as she is mine…I spent years alone in that bottle and you are telling me I should be alone once more’
‘The only way to truly protect Alice is to let her go.’
WOAH It was like watching Neal and August. Curious to see what the CSers took from this episode.
p.s That poster is AMAZING.
Parallels are comparisons, and like any comparison only as good as the thought process behind it. You can make analogies between, well, anything but that two things are alike in some qualities doesn’t mean they’re the same in every quality.
KFC that was perfect, parallels is highly subjective to the person implying and seeing them. Don’t get me wrong, I think some parallels are actually done by the writers on purpose. But the majority of parallels we see are of our own interpretation.
I was just discussing with a CSers on facebook, how SFers and CSers both view their ship the say, both sides see a story that has been forming from the beginning ( except we go back to Season 1 pilot) both sides feel they would be jaded to have such buildup for her only to choose the other. I also said that we all want Neal, Hook, Regina or whoever to be with Emma. But in the end the writers may have Emma’s true love remaining with Henry only. Emma may not choose either one. Its like Angel, Spike and Buffy, both loved her, she loved them both, but neither of them got to stay with her.
It would be frustrating to all parties, but it may be how A &E choose to settle this issue. Let the fans interpret who to the end of days.
PS: I still say that Henry and Neal are the loves of her life, and will always will be. Henry and Neal are her boys, her babies, her darlings!
Hmm does this belong here??
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
I am a little confused about why people are saying that the majority of CSers ship Cylice and that SFers ship Knalice. And if a SF fan ships Cylice then why wouldn’t they ship CS because the two ships are so similar.
Generalities make me mad in general, lol. Like, there is NO way for anyone to know that. At all. Plenty of CSers I’m sure were loving Knalice and plenty of SFers loved Cylice. I ship Cylice. I find this weeks WL episode to be full of parallels, but as usual with A and E it’s the differences that stand out: Alice has no family to get back to. she doesn’t have a destiny or a curse to break. If Cyrus had let her go, then yeah I’d write him off. But with Alice there is no place else for her to go. Emma had a destiny and a family she needed to get to. She had another home.
In OUATinWL, Cyrus said, “You know they say that sacrifice is the measure of true love? And I would sacrifice anything for you.
I made some sort of inhuman noise when Cyrus said that and then yelled “SwanFire” at my TV
How would anyone really know what most SFers ship in WL? I happen to like Cylice, but I don’t really feel Will and Ana. The few SF tumblr blogs I see do not really talk about either.
Exactly. I’m actually rooting for Will and Liz. This doesn’t make me less of an SFer and it doesn’t make me any sort of confused or silly: like, “how could you ship X and not ship Y when everything is so similar?! CRAZY PERSON”. They are different shows after all with different characters. There are a lot of similarities but like I said above, it’s the major differences that in the end make them not the same.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Emma may not choose either one. Its like Angel, Spike and Buffy, both loved her, she loved them both, but neither of them got to stay with her.
Yeah I half expect Emma to tell Hook and Neal that she’s cookie dough.
PS: I still say that Henry and Neal are the loves of her life, and will always will be. Henry and Neal are her boys, her babies, her darlings!
I happen to believe that as well 🙂
The only thing we know for sure, from JMO’s own mouth, is that Henry is her true love.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ok, so now that we know that the pics of jen and colin were in episode 13 and yesterday is for epi 14 we also have CS, i`m starting to think than this CS thing is going to be more problematic than i imagined. I mean, they have scenes in every episode, where are the others?
I`m starting to think, like someone said here before that, maybe neal will step back and emma will think that he no longer is interested and will seek confort in hook, that is the only way for them to have so many scenes together in the 2nd part of the season, becuase it cannot be for police issues, she has charming for that.
This second part of the season will be very painfull for SF, and from what adam and eddie said before about emma not being prepared to make a choice yet, i see them maybe put CS in the remain on the season and as in more seasons of the show, and in that case neal could even find another person and would be then that emma would see that she wants neal and not hook( i do believe that sf is endgame), but will be very painfull to watch, specially with Cs partying about this. I believe emma will only make a choice in the last season of the show and even on the last episode.
This second part of the season will be very painfull for SF, and from what adam and eddie said before about emma not being prepared to make a choice yet, i see them maybe put CS in the remain on the season and as in more seasons of the show, and in that case neal could even find another person and would be then that emma would see that she wants neal and not hook( I do believe that sf is endgame), but will be very painfull to watch, specially with Cs partying about this. I believe emma will only make a choice in the last season of the show and even on the last episode.
According to Adam, we still have NO idea what is going on in the second part of S3, and Emma not making a choice means not choosing Hook over Neal. It means choosing to be alone. So, there could still be a million reasons why Emma and Hook are filming scenes together. He might be helping her with detective work if Charming is for some reason unavailable (e.g he is cursed with amnesia or is in another realm). Even if Emma has chosen to date Hook for the present, I doubt it would last beyond S3. I also don’t think the writers would keep Emma and Neal apart until the final episode ever. They have too much to work through, talk about, and history to explore. Part of seeing Emma and Neal work through their issues is part of the story that Adam and Eddy want to explore. They said so in the 2×21 official podcast: “How do two people who love each other, but who have so much hurt, come together?” (paraphrase). I believe we’ll see Adam an Eddy give us the answer over the next few seasons. It may take awhile, but I think our wait won’t be in vain. And when it does happen, it’ll be that much more satisfying because then Emma will actually be ready, just as Neal is already ready and waiting for her.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
And even if Emma has chosen to date Hook for the present, I doubt it would last beyond S3. I also don’t think the writers would keep Emma and Neal apart until the final episode ever. They have too much to work through, talk about, and history to explore.
Agreed. No matter what is going on otherwise in Emma’s love life, Emma and Neal have a lot to just talk about.
I believe we’ll see Adam an Eddy give us the answer over the next few seasons. It may take awhile, but I think our wait won’t be in vain. And when it does happen, it’ll be that much more satisfying because then Emma will actually be ready, just as Neal is already ready and waiting for her.
Personally I think Emma will make her decision before the end of season three, if only cause A and E know that they need to end it–not only for the internet culture but for the rest of their 10 million viewers so are might be as tired of it as the shippers.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I was crazy busy doing all sorts of things last night and couldn’t get on here but I wanted to thank you guys again for the birthday wishes! I LOVED that cake that was posted a few pages back! That was SO CUTE. 😀
AHHH, perfect poster is perfect! I saw that on Tumblr last night and may have let out a little happy sign. 😀
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught the parts of WL last night that were eerily similar to the SwanFire story. I actually stopped what I was doing and started watching more intently when I saw those scenes with Cyrus and Alice because they reminded me SO much of Neal and Emma. I mean, it literally stopped me in my tracks to hear some of their dialogue last night and I refuse to believe that any of this is a coincidence. Adam & Eddy said before WL started that they wanted to write this grand, sweeping romantic story for WL and I find it hard to believe that it’s accidental for them to have used similar themes like sacrifice, home, and family for these two stories if they weren’t intending for something down the road. I agree that the shows are definitely their own unique worlds but I think the themes are the same for a reason and that was done on purpose.
I’m not holding a lot of stock in the pictures that are being released lately because I feel like they’re specifically catering to a fanbase and not really telling us anything about the story. They know the CSers are a huge, loud (sometimes obnoxious) group of people and they’re basically giving them exactly what they want so the person behind the picture can get hits, views, and recognition for providing that information. The more the media keeps trying to promote that story, the more I keep thinking it looks really good for SF (if that makes any sort of sense). The media and BTS people are giving that group exactly what they want but the writers/producers really haven’t put anything into the story to indicate that this is something that would last IMO so that group gets their hot and passionate fling for a while and then TPTB can move onto the actual story they’ve been trying to tell for SF and their families. It’s like that itch you need to scratch but once you’re done with it, you move onto other things. I have to say that it’s become quite annoying how much they’re promoting it though because I’m more increasingly aware of how beat down and bullied SF fans are being treated online now and it’s really unpleasant and quite sad. No one deserves to be called names or told their stupid for rooting for a different couple than you on a freaking TV show. 🙁
BTW-I don’t agree that Emma won’t make her decision until the end of the series. I think she’ll be with someone at the end of S3 and if the writers keep doing what I think they’re doing, she’s going to be on track to work things out with Neal at the end of S3 and S4 will be them working together against something (my guess….we’re going to Oz next year). Shows cannot keep couples apart forever and they also can’t wait until the last episode of the entire series to put their main couple together. You cheat the fans hardcore when you do that and most shows don’t tend to do that anymore because they know it’s annoys the fans. Confession: I have way more respect for a show’s writing team when they figure out how to get a main couple together and KEEP them together without making them boring than I do for writing staff’s that use Triangles of Doom, separations, and other strife to keep their couple apart for almost the entire season. I also think doing that sort of thing shows way more talent and creativity from the team so I hope our guys are thinking more like the second part of that statement instead of the first part.
#MoreBOOMLessGloom
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