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Personally I think Emma will make her decision before the end of season three
Oh, I agree, only I think Emma won’t be ready for Neal until close to the end of S3. I think S1 started off in a very similar way, with Emma not being ready to believe in fairytales, and it ended with Emma fulfilling her destiny as the savior. Now we have Emma once again saying she’s not sure she’s ready to explore her relationship with Neal, but if S3 parallels S1, then by 3×22 , I’m thinking Emma will catch up to Neal in being ready for their happy ending. And then S4 will be about Neal and Emma finding their Tallahassee together. Here is a GIF set which shows this parallel between the pilot and 3×10.
We all know that in the end, Emma has a way of getting to where she needs to be. When S1 started she was no where near ready to being the Savior, but by season’s end she was. Likewise, S2 started with Emma having a lot of trust issues, both from having been abandoned by her parents, but also Neal. Yet, S2 ended with Emma saying she loves Neal, that she realized it the instant she ran into Neal. Tamara was just a wall which could be moved, just as I believe Hook will only be a temporary obstacle. S3 started with Neal awakening from a near-death experience with renewed clarity and with him fighting to get back to Emma and Henry, because they’re all he has. Neal’s goal is to be there for them. Yet, there is the new curse coming, much like there was this curse that Emma had to break in S1. While Emma isn’t sure she ready, I’m all but certain that by the end of S3, Emma will have caught up emotionally to where Neal is at. Part of being right for one another means being ready at the same time, and both of them will then be ready to explore their relationship going forward.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Shows cannot keep couples apart forever and they also can’t wait until the last episode of the entire series to put their main couple together. You cheat the fans hardcore when you do that and most shows don’t tend to do that anymore because they know it’s annoys the fans
It’s like this insane balancing act when it comes to “when do we put the couple together.” Look at Booth and Bones from Bones or Mer and Derek from Grey’s (good lord Mer and Der…took them 5 seasons until they finally made it official that they were going to be together forever and with with Booth and Bones it took..what…8?) But ONCE doesn’t have the kind of numbers that allow for being that dragged out. My prediction is that we get 4.5 seasons (13 episodes of a 5th season to get to 100 episodes), which means that Emma’s love life has to be solved AT LEAST by the end of S3. They can’t drag it out past then if they want to develop Emma and X as forever and a legit couple. So season 3 is the choice (Hook or Neal); season 4 is “watch us struggle as a couple” with the end of S4 being “we are now a legit couple and are rock solid, nothing is coming between us.” And the abbreviated S5 is Tallahassee. 🙂 (see what I did there)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Adam & Eddy said before WL started that they wanted to write this grand, sweeping romantic story for WL and I find it hard to believe that it’s accidental for them to have used similar themes like sacrifice, home, and family for these two stories if they weren’t intending for something down the road. I agree that the shows are definitely their own unique worlds but I think the themes are the same for a reason and that was done on purpose.
It seems to me that they’ve taken that theme of sacrifice and finding home with someone as a starting point for both, but they’re then exploring the theme in different ways, with two different sets of characters.
We all know that in the end, Emma has a way of getting to where she needs to be.
“If there’s one thing I know about you, you don’t stop ’til you find what you’re looking for.” 😉 (BTW, if you go back and re-watch that scene like I just did, with the knowledge we have now that Emma knew in that moment that she still loved him, but couldn’t be with him again, and if you think about how her career of tracking people down was potentially partially inspired by some desire (conscious or otherwise) to eventually find him again, and you look at her expression when he says that line…it’ll kinda sorta make you feel like you just got punched in the chest, and the guts, the FEELS will pretty much make you keel right over. Don’t say you weren’t warned.)
When S1 started she was no where near ready to being the Savior, but by season’s end she was. Likewise, S2 started with Emma having a lot of trust issues, both from having been abandoned by her parents, but also Neal. Yet, S2 ended with Emma saying she loves Neal, that she realized it the instant she ran into Neal. Tamara was just a wall which could be moved, just as I believe Hook will only be a temporary obstacle. S3 started with Neal awakening from a near-death experience with renewed clarity and with him fighting to get back to Emma and Henry, because they’re all he has. Neal’s goal is to be there for them. Yet, there is the new curse coming, much like there was this curse that Emma had to break in S1. While Emma isn’t sure she ready, I’m all but certain that by the end of S3, Emma will have caught up emotionally to where Neal is at.
Yep, judging by how they’ve constructed her character progression in previous seasons, she’ll have another of those emotional milestones come the end of S3.
My prediction is that we get 4.5 seasons (13 episodes of a 5th season to get to 100 episodes), which means that Emma’s love life has to be solved AT LEAST by the end of S3. They can’t drag it out past then if they want to develop Emma and X as forever and a legit couple. So season 3 is the choice (Hook or Neal); season 4 is “watch us struggle as a couple” with the end of S4 being “we are now a legit couple and are rock solid, nothing is coming between us.” And the abbreviated S5 is Tallahassee. 🙂 (see what I did there)
I think they could go for 5 or maybe even 6 seasons all up. But as of right now, all they know is that S4 is pretty much a guarantee because of syndication, so if that’s all the guarantee they have, and they want at least a full season of them building the relationship up, she’s gotta make that choice by the end of S3.
I was just reading an interview of Robbie Kay that RG posted in another thread. In the interview, Robbie said about 3×11:
“You will be seeing more body-switching,” he adds. “I don’t know how much I can say about the content of the episode. You’ll have to tune in on Sunday.”
While Robbie is most likely referring to PP and Henry swapping back to their rightful bodies, the way he said it made me wonder if there will be other body-switching going on between other characters? (E.g. Neal and Hook)? Maybe that’s too much of a crack-theory, but the possibility is still there.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
While Robbie is most likely referring to PP and Henry swapping back to their rightful bodies, the way he said it made me wonder if there will be other body-switching going on between other characters? (E.g. Neal and Hook)? Maybe that’s too much of a crack-theory, but the possibility is still there.
cracky for sure, but I never saw the body switching thing coming in the first place. When it happened in 309 I was shocked. And this coming on the heels of the Hook/Neal rumors. I never paid attention to them because I didn’t think A and E would ever do any kind of body switching and now we know they are doing it. I just think that if they switch bodies, Adam better find himself a bunker and wait for the storm to pass.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I reckon the body switching he’s referring to is 1) Pan and Henry both getting back in their correct bodies, and 2) Pan switching to Malcolm right before he dies. There’d be chaos and hell to pay if they made Neal and Hook switch bodies, so I dunno that they’d actually go there.
It seems to me that they’ve taken that theme of sacrifice and finding home with someone as a starting point for both, but they’re then exploring the theme in different ways, with two different sets of characters.
Yes, and we heard that dichotomy be expressed from that conversation Snowing had in in 3×7:
Snow White: Love means being together.
Prince Charming: I know. It also means sacrifice, protecting the person you love. How could apart of me not want you to leave this place?I see Cylice as embodying this first notion of love that Snow White expresses and Swanfire as embodying this second notion of love that Charming expresses. The two notions aren’t always mutually exclusive, since sometimes love does mean having to make sacrifices for the sake of the person you love (e.g. Charming not wanting Snow to stay on the island so that she could have a future or Neal not wanting to keep Emma from saving her parents from the dark curse). Nevertheless, I think that SF will get their chance at experiencing the other notion of love of actually being together, but it will just take some time, just as it took time for Snow and Charming to actually find each other.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The two notions aren’t always mutually exclusive, since sometimes love does mean having to make sacrifices for the sake of the person you love (e.g. Charming not wanting Snow to stay on the island so that she could have a future or Neal not wanting to keep Emma from saving her parents from the dark curse).
Or Cyrus giving up the only symbol he has of his former life and his mother.
He gave it up to give Alice a home.
Neal gave up his chance at a happy ending, of finally being able to stop running, in order to give Emma a home.
I think that SF will get their chance at experiencing the other notion of love of actually being together, but it will just take some time, just as it took time for Snow and Charming to actually find each other.
What’s 28 years when you have true love? Snowing and Cylice both had to wait. SwanFire has had to wait. We can wait a little bit longer.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Saw this quote on Instagram today and thought of Neal:
“The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These person have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them will compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.” -Elizabeth Kubler-Ross
Happy Friday everyone! 😀
#MoreBOOMLessGloomSaw this quote on Instagram today and thought of Neal: “The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These person have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them will compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.” -Elizabeth Kubler-Ross Happy Friday everyone!
Perfect.
Happy Friday!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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