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December 13, 2013 at 2:01 pm #230303
Slurpeez
ParticipantPhee wrote: I reckon the body switching he’s referring to is 1) Pan and Henry both getting back in their correct bodies, and 2) Pan switching to Malcolm right before he dies. There’d be chaos and hell to pay if they made Neal and Hook switch bodies, so I dunno that they’d actually go there.
You’re probably right. I just read another interview in which Robbie Kay said:
I can tease that there will be another body switch so you will see the Pan that everyone recognizes back in his own body. So you’ll see a lot of interesting moments from that.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 6:26 pm #230387Slurpeez
ParticipantWhile I’m thinking Hook is not ready for an emotionally mature relationship with anyone right now, I’m wondering if he’s going to be paired with Tinkerbell eventually. Rose McGovern was tweeting some very interesting things which I posted in the CaptainFairy/HookedFairy thread.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm #230389RumplesGirl
KeymasterI saw those tweets. I’m…hesitant to jump on board. We know there is a large portion of the CS base who are going to say it’s Baelfire. Which, even outside of SF, doesn’t make any sense as he was 14 at the time and that’s a wee bit icky….But I’m going to wait cause I feel as though the entire fandom, CS/SF/CSF/CaptainFair has just been pulled in a billion directions as of 310
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 6:36 pm #230391Slurpeez
ParticipantI don’t want to get ahead of myself, and wouldn’t wish Hook upon anyone right now after the way he mistreated Tinkerbell and Emma in 3×10. Yet, I do wonder if the writers could be hinting at a future between Tink and Hook by giving us a glimpse into their relationship in a flashback in 3×11.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 6:44 pm #230393RumplesGirl
KeymasterI wanna know what she is going to do with that pixie dust.
*sigh* Can we not have a love square?
If we were to line this up on chat then:
Hook: thinks he loves Emma, has history with Tink (possibly romantic)
Emma: unsure about Hook, has always loved Neal and will always love Neal
Neal: is in love with Emma, has had some sort of past with Tink (most likely not romantic given that he was 14)
Tink: NOT A CLUE but maybe a romantic past with Hook, has a history of some sort with Bae (most likely not romantic given that he was 14 at the time and even A and E have their lines)
We just do not need CaptainSwanFireBell
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 7:04 pm #230401RumplesGirl
KeymasterI will say this, if they are going to tease a love interest for Tink, they are going to probably start laying the ground work in 311 and Dylan isn’t in 311 at all.
Sunday yet?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 13, 2013 at 7:08 pm #230404astrawoid
ParticipantSo it looks like 314 might be a Charming centric episode plus Rapunzel. There was a tweet from Ginny saying that he has been on a muddy, snowy mountain for a week filming. I was hoping for some SF stuff. 🙁 But maybe there will be some parallels or something. I can always hope. 🙂
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."December 13, 2013 at 7:08 pm #230405Slurpeez
ParticipantSF fans need something cheerful to brighten our screens. From Tumblr:





Emma Swan + looking at Neal
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 13, 2013 at 7:11 pm #230406astrawoid
ParticipantAwwww! Thanks Slurpeez for the lovely gifs!
Sunday yet?
Yeah, seriously. Is it Sunday now? How about now? Now?
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."December 13, 2013 at 7:19 pm #230407kfchimera
ParticipantI agree Slurpeez. I viewed NL as a bit of a “pause button” on life. You have no future there, they say, so you face your past and revisit it. So I feel Hook going there kept Milah alive in his mind, the thirst for revenge growing stronger rather than fading and him moving on. I have no idea what experiences he had with Tink previously, but he likely was not emotionally ready for anything, but when he met Emma he wasn’t either. She alone was not enough because A&E said on the podcast that the moment Hook starts to put revenge behind him is when he sees Rumple with Lacey in their drunken stroll. He’s finally had a taste of it, and while he says he’s sated, ultimately, he realizes that Rumple’s sort of won by moving on and his life is empty. Yet he doesn’t give GOAT the slip and go court Emma, nope, he’s still trying to get revenge and to that end, he goes after Regina. Who knows if he would have swapped to her team and let everyone die if she didn’t double-cross him, but she did. So then he finally gets around to Emma when he’s got a choice between returning to the FTL wasteland alone or who knows where else or what other worlds, or going back to save everyone, maybe to honor Bae, maybe because of Emma’s words. The writing this season then showed his new goal to be relentless about was his own happy ending, which he defined as winning Emma, trying to reposition himself as a man of honor in her eyes. So Hook has to be shown as redefining happiness again, perhaps realizing Emma doesn’t love him? She hasn’t said she does, nor been all that encouraging. He seems to enjoy the chase, but if his goal is to have someone that cares for him, perhaps he might consider charting a new course to someone more receptive. We’ve seen him make some big sweeps in his life goals and attitudes and loyalties given the right circumstances, so I feel it is not out of character entirely. Neal on the other hand, well, it took him 10 years or so to meet Tamara after Emma, and Tamara wasn’t an ordinary sort of woman, but one pretending to be the perfect girlfriend who preyed on his insecurities (probably secretly fed info from Pan, who knows). The point is, I don’t see Neal falling for someone else the way he did Emma and neither does MRJ so it would require a lot of explanation as to how or why Neal would just suddenly swap out Emma for Tink, having just had this second chance at life realization that Emma is the one he loves. Why show us that Neal loves Emma with enough substance to it to use a magic crystal ball to find her through that feeling, only to say Hah hah, actually he was just infatuated with her and just cares about her a lot? Makes more sense for that to be Hook’s level of interest given he’s spent less time over all with and thinking about Emma. Yet it is the writer’s show–so as I say almost anything can make sense given enough new events or revealed past events. If it is that Bae fell for Tink as a 14 year old boy and she’s been his crush since then and whatever–it just would feel like whiplash to me a bit more so than Hook who’s come off as less-than-genuine to me about his pursuit of Emma.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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