Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[kfchimera]

Feellllls, Phee. Sniff.

the picture order seems messed up, but I think Adam did tweet it was one scene right? Still trying to figure out the jacket off, holding out key versus later on with sword having the jacket back on for Hook. I think he might give Emma the jacket when she is passed out on deck, but she takes it off as soon as she wakes up. So he puts it back on maybe.

[Phee]

Dunno if he’s clarified one scene or two, but it’s something I’m wondering about too. I could see Hook offering his coat if she’s cold, having just come out of the water. But then there appear to be shots of her standing on deck, no coat, but drenched hair. Guess she could still get wet just coming out of the portal though, before she goes overboard?

[RumplesGirl]

Phee and KFC have killed me with feels this morning.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Phee]

What a way to start the day. 😉

[kfchimera]

lol RG…well isn’t that what a shipper thread should do!

(Edit, couldn’t get the spoiler around the embedded tweet…but technically it is just about the promos so not a spoiler.)

@swan_magic @HeckL45 @xelaMsrM just one scene. More pics to come

— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) September 7, 2013

So that is why I think it is part of one continuous scene somehow but would make more sense if a gap of some sort

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[kfchimera]

Also, I couldn’t put just his tweet, so about the person he’s responding to, obviously people get a little forceful on twitter and complain more than they compliment. I don’t feel disappointed and sad already, because it makes sense for Hook and Emma to interact. I know the writers think putting Emma in this situation is “fun” and we’ve seen how snarky and sarcastic Adam and Eddy can be, though they can be sympathetic and sweet as well. I really do think they “accidentally on purpose” put scenes in that fuel things they aren’t going to do. They actually want reactions just like that person because then they know there’s doubt. Conflict with uncertainty, that’s the drama they are hoping to make.

So it is deliberate to make scenes unfold in a way that people can read them differently.

@HeckL45 @giftofamber @AmberCerasani we try not to be predictable. The tricky goal is to be surprising and inevitable at same time.

— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) September 2, 2013

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

Yeah, the spoiler tag has yet to work when around tweets or pics. No worries.

I was worried that the SF’ers would be pretty bummed out for most of this season but it looks like Emma is going to carry Neal with her into NL, in her heart. I just hope Neal gets to NL before too long.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Lauren]

Yeah, the spoiler tag has yet to work when around tweets or pics. No worries. I was worried that the SF’ers would be pretty bummed out for most of this season but it looks like Emma is going to carry Neal with her into NL, in her heart. I just hope Neal gets to NL before too long.

i think its fitting.. emma wore her swan necklace all them years carryin a piece of neal with her now he please god still has her necklace and now emma has something that was baes which she uses as a new strength when they reunite they can swap ha

#BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #Fate

[Phee]

Also, I couldn’t put just his tweet, so about the person he’s responding to, obviously people get a little forceful on twitter and complain more than they compliment. I don’t feel disappointed and sad already, because it makes sense for Hook and Emma to interact.

It’s almost like people weren’t expecting there to be scenes of Emma and Hook together? But, like, she’s on his ship, in a land that he knows, so odds are they’re gonna be in the general vicinity of one another for the whole time they’re in NL. So if there are photos of a scene with Emma, odds are Hook will be in it too. Just because they’re gonna share scenes, that doesn’t automatically mean they gonna be making out with each other. So I’m not sure why people are jumping to the conclusion that it’s just gonna be The CS Show and getting mad about it.

I know the writers think putting Emma in this situation is “fun” and we’ve seen how snarky and sarcastic Adam and Eddy can be, though they can be sympathetic and sweet as well. I really do think they “accidentally on purpose” put scenes in that fuel things they aren’t going to do. They actually want reactions just like that person because then they know there’s doubt. Conflict with uncertainty, that’s the drama they are hoping to make.

So it is deliberate to make scenes unfold in a way that people can read them differently.

Absolutely, you’ve gotta give every group of viewers a little something to cling onto and relate to, especially if you’re gonna do a triangle type situation. And I suspect they’re gonna do pretty well, giving each section of the fandom some crumbs along the way. Just look at the scene where Hook gives Emma the sword and they share a drink. On the surface, it’s CS hanging out and getting closer, so it’s got something for the CS fans. But once you (over) analyse it a bit, you can see that there are strong tones of SF in that same scene as well, and if she’s carrying Bae’s sword around NL, those SF tones are gonna continue on…the whole time she’ll be hanging out with Hook. Crumbs for everyone! Maybe there’ll be a few bigger, more obvious crumbs for CSers due to the fact that CS will actually be interacting, but that doesn’t mean there’ll be nothing for those of us on the other side of the triangle as well.

I kinda have to laugh when people call the show predictable. Sure, if you’re one of us who spends every waking moment thinking about it, and you put spoiler clues together a month or more before the show airs, then maybe you’ll find the outcome predictable if you’re lucky and it turns out you guessed right. But the average viewer who isn’t into spoilers or online discussion, and that accounts for the majority of the viewing audience, I’m sure they’d consider the show to be an unpredictable roller coaster ride.

i think its fitting.. emma wore her swan necklace all them years carryin a piece of neal with her now he please god still has her necklace and now emma has something that was baes which she uses as a new strength when they reunite they can swap ha

Even when she tosses away one thing that tied her to him emotionally, another thing to tie her to him emotionally will find its way to her to replace it. Their connection cannot ever be severed.

[kfchimera]

Writers like to give couples obstacles, because that’s where they hit you in “the feels” with how impossible it all seems, for there to ever be reconciliation, then it feels surprising when it does happen and inevitable at the same time.

I think her using his sword, and he having her necklace would be so nice symbolically, echoing his words to August about leaving Emma the car. He wanted to feel like he was there with her, because he couldn’t be with her due to what he believed about being in the way of her destiny and the curse.

Tiny wore a necklace to remind him never to trust, Emma claimed to do the same–and we see Tiny does trust humans again. At first, it was just Emma, but Snow and Charming convinced him to extend that trust beyond just her. Emma did trust Neal again at least with Henry, at least to get her back. I feel trusting him beyond that with her heart is inevitable, but how she gets there will be the surprise.

We already had part of that surprise. She had to be shocked into admitting she still loved him. She never would have otherwise, that wall was too thick, and it would have been tragic as he didn’t fall out of love with her. He didn’t leave her to hurt her, or get together with Tamara to hurt her. None of his actions were done out of spite.

I have mixed feelings about a Tamara/Emma/Neal/Hook confrontation in NL. I do not want Emma or Neal to be out to kill her or him. I do not think that is who they should become. Emma will protect fiercely, might enjoy a bit of violence to blow off steam (her toaster dismantling, chainsawing Regina’s tree), and Bae did come at Hook with a sword, but revenge? I am not sure they’d be as noble as Charming almost dying to prevent Snow from killing Regina, but I do not think they go in for revenge. There might even be a scene where Neal misunderstands something and tries to attack Hook, and Emma gets in the way as Charming did, or where Neal protects Tamara from Emma. These things will create surprise, might cause fans (ok we know it would) to question SF but the happy ending will still be there eventually.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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