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I agree RG. I actually started liking Hook in the first 4 episodes and was actually wavering between shipping SF or CS. Then 305 onwards things started going downhill for me liking Hook. 307 put me on the SF ship and 310 cemented it.
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Keeper of FelixWhat I like about SwanFire is that Neal is respectful to all women, not just Emma because he wants to get in her pants, unlike Hook.
What I like about Neal for the most part is respectful to all people.
Rumplegoldfan: Thank you, I agree the actors are just as human as we are and should be treated with respect.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
What I like about Neal for the most part is respectful to all people.
Goes back to what KFC keeps saying, how do each of these men treat others when Emma is not around. The measure of a good man is not what he does when someone is watching, but rather what he does when there is no one around to applaud him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Found something on Tumblr! Digital art!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ranisha Pitts wrote: What I like about Neal for the most part is respectful to all people.
Goes back to what KFC keeps saying, how do each of these men treat others when Emma is not around. The measure of a good man is not what he does when someone is watching, but rather what he does when there is no one around to applaud him.
This is so true. Bae was a good kid that grew up to do some questionable things to survive but still remained a good person at heart. He always looks afters others, putting their needs before himself in many cases. As an adult, Neal is still a good person. He still wants to see the good in people ( a lot like Belle, I think) and even tho he’s been betrayed in the past by people who shouldn’t have, he still believes in people and trusts them. He could have turned bitter and resentful and kept everyone at arm’s length but he isn’t like that. He’s likable and friendly and easy going.
I read something the other day where people were actually saying that the reason that they didn’t like Neal was that he was acting like a villain but claiming to be a hero. WHAT!?! I don’t even know how to respond to that. Does Neal falling through a portal so that Henry didn’t lose both his mother and father, something a “villain” would do? Letting the shadow take him to Neverland instead of the Darling boys something a “villain” would do? How about always standing in front of Emma with only a sword to protect himself when fighting Regina and Cora who had magic? Yeah, a villainous move, okay.
Now, again, Neal has made some questionable decisions in his life, but this show likes to show us that EVERYONE has at some point or other in their lives. People still harp on about Neal using Roland to get to NL. And I get that because I didn’t like it so much but I also understand where Neal was coming from and if Robin really thought that it was a situation where he son could not be protected, then he should have never agreed. But they took every precaution and Mulan set it up so that Roland would be in no danger. I think that particular scene was to show us that when a parent is separated from their child, they would do almost anything to get their child back. Being a mother, I can completely understand this mentality. But just because I have kids, it doesn’t mean that I am the only one that can understand this tho. I think everyone has people or at least a person that they would do anything for, move heaven and earth if possible, if it was needed.
There are many more examples of times when Neal has put others before himself and he does this whether anyone is looking or not.
And all those people that tweet or comment hate to MRJ, the actor, because they don’t like Neal, the character… they are abusing the right of free speech and apparently cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy. I don’t like Hook as a character but I love Colin the actor and I am able to distinguish between the two. But even if I didn’t like Colin’s acting, I would never comment hate to him. It’s so rude and disrespectful. I think if you wouldn’t say something to someone’s face, then you don’t need to post it on the web. Just saying.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."He still wants to see the good in people ( a lot like Belle, I think) and even tho he’s been betrayed in the past by people who shouldn’t have, he still believes in people and trusts them. He could have turned bitter and resentful and kept everyone at arm’s length but he isn’t like that. He’s likable and friendly and easy going.
I agree with this. I think like Belle Neal is capable of seeing behind the mask villains wear, especially with Rumple and even with Hook. Despite them being at odds, and despite their tough history Neal thanked Hook for coming to get him in the caves, he thanked Hook for coming to Dark Hollow (even though Hook had other reasons), and right before Hook made a declaration about backing off Emma, Neal was just being friendly. He looked worried about Hook after Emma beat him with a trashcan/umbrella stand (I can’t remember which…). I think he sees behind the mask of Hook and sees the guy who taught him how to sail and navigate the stars. Which is why Hook going after Emma really hurts him. It’s like saying that the man behind the mask isn’t who Neal thought he was.
People still harp on about Neal using Roland to get to NL. And I get that because I didn’t like it so much but I also understand where Neal was coming from and if Robin really thought that it was a situation where he son could not be protected, then he should have never agreed. But they took every precaution and Mulan set it up so that Roland would be in no danger
Yes. And, in the end, that shadow could be defeated with a candle in a coconut. I mean…terrifying.
And all those people that tweet or comment hate to MRJ, the actor, because they don’t like Neal, the character… they are abusing the right of free speech and apparently cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy. I don’t like Hook as a character but I love Colin the actor and I am able to distinguish between the two. But even if I didn’t like Colin’s acting, I would never comment hate to him. It’s so rude and disrespectful. I think if you wouldn’t say something to someone’s face, then you don’t need to post it on the web. Just saying.
Yes they think they can hide behind Twitter and call it free speech but saying he is acting like Neal..*sigh* Rude.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I read something the other day where people were actually saying that the reason that they didn’t like Neal was that he was acting like a villain but claiming to be a hero. WHAT!?!
Oh, I read a thing the other day where someone said he’s never done a selfless thing ever, he’s just always looking out for himself, and I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry. Because SERIOUSLY?!
astrawoid wrote: I read something the other day where people were actually saying that the reason that they didn’t like Neal was that he was acting like a villain but claiming to be a hero. WHAT!?!
Oh, I read a thing the other day where someone said he’s never done a selfless thing ever, he’s just always looking out for himself, and I didn’t know if I should laugh or cry. Because SERIOUSLY?!
Maybe I missed an episode but did Neal ever kill an entire village of people, send children into the house of a witch who eats them with butter or gravy, rip out hearts, or shoot innocent people?
Maybe it happened when I wasn’t looking…
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Maybe it happened when I wasn’t looking…
It must have happened when a whole bunch of us weren’t looking. And we all must have also collectively imagined all the scenes where he’s done things selflessly.
Just went to check out the OUAT tag on tumblr, found a post that starts with, “Neal does not understand Emma, and while he has been shown to be a character with a good heart, he does not make actions that are “right” for Emma,” and part of me is morbidly curious to read their attempt at reasoning, but part of me knows that reading it will just infuriate me and needlessly stress me out. *headdesk* I do see that their first point, before the “read more” includes that the end doesn’t justify the means for why he left her. I’m sorry, but I’m thinking that Emma finally finding the family she’d always dreamed of but never believed was actually out there PLENTY justifies the means. And he did that because HE UNDERSTANDS what it’s like to long for a family that you don’t believe could ever exist, because your parents abandoned you.
he does not make actions that are “right” for Emma
Then neither did Snowing cause pretty sure they stuck her in a wardrobe to be raised in mentally and emotionally abusive foster care, unloved and unwanted.
But “oh they were doing that for the sake of their people.”
You mean the same people Neal was trying to help become uncursed even though it meant his father would come after him? Something he fears so deeply that he created an entire false identity?
*sigh*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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