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December 14, 2013 at 9:39 pm #230607
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*casualy leaving this here cause it’s Emma’s pretty face smiling at Neal and trying so hard not give in to his sweet puppy ness*
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm #230620astrawoid
ParticipantPhee wrote: he does not make actions that are “right” for Emma
Then neither did Snowing cause pretty sure they stuck her in a wardrobe to be raised in mentally and emotionally abusive foster care, unloved and unwanted. But “oh they were doing that for the sake of their people.” You mean the same people Neal was trying to help become uncursed even though it meant his father would come after him? Something he fears so deeply that he created an entire false identity? *sigh*
The thing that drives me crazy is that some people say that she should have been consulted in this whole decision but if he did, he knew she wouldn’t believe him for one. Because who in our world would believe that crazy story without any proof. She would just think he was crazy and who knows what would have happened then. But I think he also knew that if they stayed together, she wouldn’t want to go to Storybrooke. He didn’t know the specifics (imo) but he let August convince him that Emma would never go to SB if Neal stayed with her. Of course, Neal didn’t know about Henry at the time either but we, the audience, know and had they stayed together and had Henry together, Emma might have gone if she thought her parents were there but who would have tried to convince her that MM and David (who were her age) were her parents? I mean there really was no other way that Emma would have continued to stay in SB and eventually lift the curse. Henry was key to getting her to SB and her STAYING in SB. And Emma would not have given him up if she was still with Neal. I mean honestly, if you are going to be mad at anyone for Neal leaving Emma, I suppose you have to be mad at the writers for setting it up to be the ONLY way in this scenario that Emma could break the curse.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."December 14, 2013 at 10:43 pm #230621RumplesGirl
KeymasterHe didn’t know the specifics (imo) but he let August convince him that Emma would never go to SB if Neal stayed with her.
We need this scene. We need the next part of the convo where August actually TELLS NEAL THE STORY. and then we need the “who called the cops” scene.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 14, 2013 at 10:58 pm #230622Ranisha Pitts
ParticipantWonderful posts my friends. I was thinking of when Neal was with Emma back in their “Tallahassee” days, he was good to her and she was good to him. She was happy and He was happy. They were making a home together. Neal was not abusive or cruel to Emma during the entirety relationship. The only thing we know that he did, was leave, Emma. And I think because Neal was so good to her and they were so in love, that she was so hurt about losing him. Him leaving her came total left field for her. And now she realize that like her Parents, Neal abandonment of her was not out of spite or because he didn’t love or didn’t want to be with her. It was because he was trying to give her best chance And sadly, like her parents it caused Emma a lot of pain and hurt. But now she is aware of this and has to come to terms with this, not for Neal nor her parents but for her self.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
December 14, 2013 at 11:17 pm #230623astrawoid
ParticipantWonderful posts my friends. I was thinking of when Neal was with Emma back in their “Tallahassee” days, he was good to her and she was good to him. She was happy and He was happy. They were making a home together. Neal was not abusive or cruel to Emma during the entirety relationship. The only thing we know that he did, was leave, Emma. And I think because Neal was so good to her and they were so in love, that she was so hurt about losing him. Him leaving her came total left field for her. And now she realize that like her Parents, Neal abandonment of her was not out of spite or because he didn’t love or didn’t want to be with her. It was because he was trying to give her best chance And sadly, like her parents it caused Emma a lot of pain and hurt. But now she is aware of this and has to come to terms with this, not for Neal nor her parents but for her self.
THIS^^^^^
People complain that they think Neal and Emma’s past relationship brought out the worst in them because they were stealing and moving around and living in motels. But they were surviving at that time. They didn’t have anything else. But they were making plans to start a real, permanent life. Which is why she was so hurt. Just like Ranisha said, everything was great and then suddenly, out of nowhere, Neal is gone and she’s going to jail.
And then I read people saying that Neal abandoned Emma to have Henry by herself and they hate on him for her having Henry while she’s in jail. But Neal did NOT KNOW she was pregnant. And again, I will say that he would have NEVER left her if he knew. No way. He wouldn’t have cared about her “destiny” at that point. He would have only cared about his son and Emma.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."December 14, 2013 at 11:20 pm #230624Phee
ParticipantThe thing that drives me crazy is that some people say that she should have been consulted in this whole decision but if he did, he knew she wouldn’t believe him for one. Because who in our world would believe that crazy story without any proof. She would just think he was crazy and who knows what would have happened then. But I think he also knew that if they stayed together, she wouldn’t want to go to Storybrooke. He didn’t know the specifics (imo) but he let August convince him that Emma would never go to SB if Neal stayed with her. Of course, Neal didn’t know about Henry at the time either but we, the audience, know and had they stayed together and had Henry together, Emma might have gone if she thought her parents were there but who would have tried to convince her that MM and David (who were her age) were her parents? I mean there really was no other way that Emma would have continued to stay in SB and eventually lift the curse. Henry was key to getting her to SB and her STAYING in SB. And Emma would not have given him up if she was still with Neal. I mean honestly, if you are going to be mad at anyone for Neal leaving Emma, I suppose you have to be mad at the writers for setting it up to be the ONLY way in this scenario that Emma could break the curse.
PREACH! I honestly don’t understand it when people say there could have been a way for him to stay with her and still have the Curse broken.
December 14, 2013 at 11:22 pm #230625RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnd then I read people saying that Neal abandoned Emma to have Henry by herself and they hate on him for her having Henry while she’s in jail. But Neal did NOT KNOW she was pregnant. And again, I will say that he would have NEVER left her if he knew. No way. He wouldn’t have cared about her “destiny” at that point. He would have only cared about his son and Emma.
I agree. He never would have left. He would have said SCREW DESTINY. And that makes me wonder, if he had stayed, would FATE (PP) have intervened again?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 15, 2013 at 12:06 am #230627kfchimera
ParticipantThere’s so much we do not know about why he thought he had to leave, but we know he thought that. He’s said so and the writers have said so.
What we do know is terrible things would have happened if he stayed, and that the curse could also be broken on Emma’s death. So the simplest thing for me to think there is that Pan would have killed Emma. Why not? Pan needed Henry’s heart and apparently could use it from birth (or planned to have the Darling Bros raise him). Now if Emma were not with Neal, then perhaps Pan could not track her to kill her. He might have been able to track Neal due to Blood Magic. So Neal had to stay away until after the curse.
Now I don’t KNOW for sure, but it would be a possible story that the writers have yet to reveal, but as I said, people come up with all kinds of things they don’t know either about how Neal could have stayed and that’s again, speculation.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
December 15, 2013 at 12:27 am #230628RumplesGirl
KeymasterThere is a thing happening in chat right now.
I love you all. No white flag.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 15, 2013 at 1:12 am #230631RumplesGirl
Keymaster*filed under: I volunteer to kiss him awake*
Happy ONCE day!!!!
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