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*filed under: I volunteer to kiss him awake* Happy ONCE day!!!! Get in line….I’m first! š
It’s late for me here and after being out and about all day I really need to get some sleep but I just wanted to leave you all with a big old PREACH and a thank you for giving me lots of SwanFire feels to read and see tonight. Love you all so much!! š
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#MoreBOOMLessGloomIt is my birthday today, o I hope we get an exciting episode, but o course for some good shippy feels too.
āIf I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?ā -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Happy Birthday!
I would love to see some pro-SF moments too, even if they’re not exactly romantic. Yet I still can’t help but expect some major CS moments, too. Since Emma said she doesn’t think she’s ready to date Neal, I wish she would just remain single rather than rush into another relationship. While I realize that may be asking too much, I just wish that Ā Emma could remain unattached, since she herself said right now all she can think about is being there for Henry. With the arrival of the new curse though, I fear Emma may be cursed with fake memories which means she’ll end up dating Hook. If so, then at least the only circumstance in which Emma dates Hook would be while Emma is literally not in her right mind.
I’d rather see Emma stick to her guns of only choosing Henry rather than being caught in this limbo between two men or for her to transfer some of her feelings for Neal onto Hook, who really reminds her of Neal. EmmaĀ has enough going on not to confuse her feelings or be torn in two directions right now. Still, I suppose I can see the appeal that a handsome outsider might offer to a reluctant savior who still feels abandoned at times by the people who really love her -namely her parents and Neal, who let her go to break the curse. Yet, I don’t think either Hook or Emma would be entering a relationship from a place of strength and I think it would end badly. Hook would basically be drowning out his conscience about throwing his “good friend” Neal under the bus by pursuing Emma, despite having said he’d back off. Emma would be taking the easy way out with Neal diving headlong into another relationship. I suppose I can understand why Emma would perhaps even revel in feeling desired by the “reformed” bad boy pirate, because it can be overwhelming to be wanted. Yet, I just don’t see it boding well for Emma. Much like a concerned parent Snow or Charming, I wish she’s spare herself that extra heartache of getting into a relationship with the wrong man, but life is full of choices and consequences.
"Thatās how you know youāve really got a home. When you leave it, thereās this feeling that you canāt shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Yet, I donāt think either Hook or Emma would be entering a relationship from a place of strength and I think it would end badly.
And this is why, if there is some sort of CS development in this ep, I won’t be totally flipping out or declaring that our ship has sunk. It’s also why I won’t be overly disappointed if there isn’t some major SF progression. Even if there was, it’d only be a first step, and we all know that however it plays out for them, it’s gonna be a long journey. Emma’s got a dream of what her happy ending could be, but she’s not ready to believe in it and reach out and grab it just yet.
Emma is a grown woman old enough to make her own decisions, but I’m afraid she might be a bit blind where Hook is concerned. She has hardly scratched the surface with him, and he has held back A LOT of his past life from her. It’s almost like Hook has intentionally kept it a secret from Emma that he seduced Baelfire’s mom, a married woman, right from under Rumplestiltskin’s nose. He then challenged a crippled husband to an unfair duel, which would’ve left Baelfire fatherless. While it was Milha who chose to abandon her husband and child, Hook was more than happy to get a woman who wanted his life on the open seas that he probably didn’t hesitate for a moment about leaving behind little Baelfire.
How Emma could knowingly choose such a man as a potential step-fathe figure for Henry boggles the mind. Single mothers need to be extra careful about the men the date, since they also need to consider the type of step-father they’d make. Hook has a really bad track record with being a step-father figure since he abandoned Neal, not once, but twice: first by leaving Bae behind with Rumple and again by letting Bae be captured by Lost Boys. Now Hook potentially could stab his son-figure in the back by going back on his word not to pursue Emma. This does not bode well for Emma or Henry. Not at all. If Hook still can’t do right by his son figure Neal, then there’s little chance he’s going to make a good father figure to Henry.
My main question is why Neal or Rumple haven’t told Emma the full truth of just what she might be getting herself into. As Henry’s father, Neal ought to be more concerned about who Emma dates, not just because he’s in love with her, but because any man Emma brings home could potentially one day be a step-father to Henry. What makes this situation even weirder is that this man also happens to be Neal’s quasi step-dad. Emma needs to be properly warned before she heads down that path. If Emma chooses to anyway at least she’d be fully informed. Yet, I still would have to wonder at her judgement, since Ā then she’d really have turned a blind eye to the warning signs. That is why I’m almost hoping Emma gets a fake persona, since if she does end up dating Hook, then at least she can say “I was cursed!’ about the situation the way Mary Margaret did about her fling with Dr. Whale.
"Thatās how you know youāve really got a home. When you leave it, thereās this feeling that you canāt shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
How Emma could choose such a man as a potential step-fathe figure for Henry boggles the mind. Singles mothers need to be extra careful about the men the date, since they also needs to think of the type of step-father theyād be. Hook has a really bad track record with being a step-father figure since he abandoned Neal, not once, but twice: first by leaving Bae behind with Rumple and again by letting Bae be captured by Lost Boys. Now Hook potentially could stab his son-figure in the back by going back on his word not to pursue Emma.
And to contrast with the way they’ve written Hook as a potential father figure, they’ve written Neal as a father figure who was there for his son in any way possible from the moment he discovered that Henry existed, and in doing so, broke the Stiltskin cycle of father/son abandonment. Which one of those characterisations, Neal’s or Hook’s, sounds like a character they’re setting up as being a positive father figure for a child?
That’s one of the reasons I don’t see how CS could be endgame, because for any of Adam and Eddy’s faults, I like to think that they wouldn’t saddle Henry with the negative option as an official step-dad. It would honestly baffle me if that’s the choice they made.
Now that I’m thinking about it, I wonder if the reason we haven’t had the juicy CaptainFire stuff could be because if they showed that, showed Hook genuinely reforming out of guilt for what he’d done to Bae, he’d start to look like a less negative step-dad option, and a more realistic option for Emma, which would drag the triangle out for much longer, and they don’t wanna do that. So instead they’re writing him in a continually negative light in a bid to shut the triangle down and show him as not really being a realistic contender. Perhaps? An explanation like that wouldn’t take away my disappointment over not having gotten the CaptainFire stuff, but at least there’d be a method to their madness that I could appreciate.
And this is why, if there is some sort of CS development in this ep, I wonāt be totally flipping out or declaring that our ship has sunk. Itās also why I wonāt be overly disappointed if there isnāt some major SF progression. Even if there was, itād only be a first step, and we all know that however it plays out for them, itās gonna be a long journey. Emmaās got a dream of what her happy ending could be, but sheās not ready to believe in it and reach out and grab it just yet.
Let the pieces fall where they may. I’m not worried by CS anymore, just baffled. I get the appeal of Hook on one level since he’s the smoldering, handsome bad boy in need of saving, but on another, I don’t see him as honorable or desirable. He’s the type I can see Emma snogging while on a holiday but not the type of guy she would really want to bring home to meet the parents or to be a step-father to Henry. Sure, he’s fun to look at, but husband material? I think not.Ā I just can’t see Hook really sticking around for the long haul, since he just made a drunken pass at another woman. And this is the man who would settle down in suburbia as a good husband and step-father, content to live near Neal, who will always be part of Henry’s life. Let’s just say I have my doubts.
Hook is like an over-possessive boyfriend after one kiss and he isn’t even Emma’s boyfriend. He’s jealous, petty, and brooding and immature about Neal and Emma being around each other, because on some deep level, I think Hook is convicted. As Neal’s quasi step-dad, I think deep down Hook knows how wrong it is for him to pursue Emma, the love of Neal’s life. His statement that he’ll back off of Emma “for the sake of the boy” could be a manipulative tactic since he thinks Emma would really never chose Neal. Or it could have been a moment of Hook actually trying to do the right thing, but the next thing he knew, his pirate persona got the better of him and he ended up making a drunken pass at the pretty little fairy, only for her to flat out refuse him. And being who he is, a pirate with a reputation as a ladies’ man, Hook couldn’t resist letting Emma assume the worst that he and Tinker Bell just had a quickie in the bathroom in an attempt to arouse Emma’s jealousy (which I don’t think was successful since eww!) What woman would fall for that? What could be going through Hook’s mind? “Emma, I love you, but I’m free of you, so I’ll just make you want me more by soliciting sex from another woman?” Yeah, that’s a winning tactic of showing a woman you’re in it for the long haul. *sarcasm* That might work on “The Bachelor,” but it’s not the making of a fairytale love story.
"Thatās how you know youāve really got a home. When you leave it, thereās this feeling that you canāt shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It is my birthday today, o I hope we get an exciting episode, but o course for some good shippy feels too.
Happy Birthday!!!!
I would love to see some pro-SF moments too, even if theyāre not exactly romantic. Yet I still canāt help but expect some major CS moments, too.
Yes I suspect that one side of this triangle will be huzzah-ing tonight (and I’m not sure it will be us). But I think the huzzahs are premature.
Iād rather see Emma stick to her guns of only choosing Henry rather than being caught in this limbo between two men or for her to transfer some of her feelings for Neal onto Hook, who really reminds her of Neal
Exactly. Hook will always remind her of Neal. I don’t know how they could have a long term healthy romantic relationship.
Rats, accidentally posted twice. RG, could you please delete this? Thanks!
*waves magic wand*
Emma is a grown woman old enough to make her own decisions, but Iām afraid she might be a bit blind where Hook is concerned
Rug sweeping. We were talking about it last night. These things you mention really need to be addressed already.
My main question is why Neal or Rumple havenāt told Emma the full truth of just what she might be getting herself into. As Henryās father, Neal ought to be more concerned about who Emma dates, not just because heās in love with her, but because any man Emma brings home could potentially one day be a step-father to Henry
Rug sweeping but I also think it goes back to Neal honestly being able to see the good in everyone, like Belle. I think (for some reason) he still thinks Hook is a really good guy and that they can have a good relationship. Every time those two have talked, it has been Hook who brings up the triangle. (which is a pet peeve of mine because Hook has history with a bunch of others but this season it has been EMMAEMMAEMMAEMMA)
Let the pieces fall where they may. Iām not worried by CS anymore, just baffled. I get the appeal of Hook on one level since heās the smoldering, handsome bad boy in need of saving, but on another, I donāt see him as honorable or desirable. Heās the type I can see Emma snogging while on a holiday but not the type of guy she would really want to bring home to meet the parents or to be a step-father to Henry. Sure, heās fun to look at, but husband material? I think not.
Vegas. (Just like Eddy said)
His statement that heāll back off of Emma āfor the sake of the boyā could be a manipulative tactic since he thinks Emma would really never chose Neal
Yes I didn’t for one second believe that it was for the boy. I read it as manipulative because it was followed by his “I’m in his for the long haul” and “you’re going to fail anyway.”
Hook couldnāt resist letting Emma assume the worst that he and Tinker Bell just had a quickie in the bathroom in an attempt to arouse Emmaās jealousy (which I donāt think was successful since ewe!) What woman would fall for that? What could be going through Hookās mind? āEmma, I love you, but Iām free of you, so Iāll just make you want me more by soliciting sex from another woman?ā Yeah, thatās a winning tactic of showing a woman youāre in it for the long haul. *sarcasm* That might work on āThe Bachelor,ā but itās not the making of a fairytale love story.
I do get that Hook was hurting and he turned to TInk for sexual comfort but it was the vibe of “what Emma doesn’t know what hurt her.” and then as soon as Emma did know it was “how can I use this to my advantage?” Which is mind trickery and bad form.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree Slurpeez.
Also Hook and Emma want different things in their lives. Hook doesn’t want to settle down and stay in one place (Even with Milah, they sailed around, not staying in one spot too long) Emma does, she wants her Tallahassee.
With a major difference in opinion like that, any relationship Emma and Hook have would be doomed to failure. It’s like if one of them wanted a child and the other didn’t, someone would end up unhappy because they didn’t get what they wanted and that unhappiness would turn to resentment towards the other person.
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