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The problem about shipping Emma is that we’ve never seen her really with someone on the show. She kissed one person and then he died. Literally, in the same scene. So she’s always been this blank slate or screen. Everyone can project their feelings onto her and because she’s so independent we all can imagine our ships have enough support to float.
I do admit, I expect all out Captain Swan this season. Not just hints, but it actually happening on our screen. Even after Neal returns. The ABC brass want it too much to not go forward with it. But a big part of my heart knows, or hopes, that SwanFire is endgame. I keep telling myself, I made it through Rumple and Cora (even though it was only one episode) I can suffer Captain Swan for a season.
Right now my SwanFire theme song is Jason Mraz’s “I Won’t Give Up”.
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
I expect full out CS the first half and then full out CSF the second with the triangle resolving itself by the end of S3.
But the problem I have even with my own thought is that the first half isn’t the “let’s pair up Emma!” show. It’s “we have to save Henry and defeat PP who is probably slightly insane.” How much romance can their honestly be betweenanyone when the focus is getting Henry back??
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"But the problem I have even with my own thought is that the first half isn’t the “let’s pair up Emma!” show. It’s “we have to save Henry and defeat PP who is probably slightly insane.” How much romance can their honestly be betweenanyone when the focus is getting Henry back??
Didn’t JMo say in an interview (probably at CC) that Emma’s sole focus would be finding Henry? I wouldn’t even really expect anything romantic to happen between SF if Neal shows up in NL in the midst of saving Henry. I’d think that both of them would have a, “Save Henry first, hash out what happened over the portal later,” mentality. Whenever the time does come for Emma to make a choice about a romantic partner, I think there’ll be evidence for both choices, and with the various layers of angst between all three of them, it should be delightfully complicated for a bit. But if Emma’s confused, and both guys are interested, I could see her actually seriously considering what she truly wants, rather than jumping into a relationship with either one, stringing him along, hurting the other one in the process, because I think she’ll care about them both on a level where she doesn’t want to see either of them hurt.
Maybe that’s just my wishful thinking, because having her actually get with both guys and go back and forth would just end up being an annoying a juvenile storyline, and I’d like to think that K&H have something a bit deeper in mind?
I have mixed feelings about a Tamara/Emma/Neal/Hook confrontation in NL. I do not want Emma or Neal to be out to kill her or him. I do not think that is who they should become. Emma will protect fiercely, might enjoy a bit of violence to blow off steam (her toaster dismantling, chainsawing Regina’s tree), and Bae did come at Hook with a sword, but revenge? I am not sure they’d be as noble as Charming almost dying to prevent Snow from killing Regina, but I do not think they go in for revenge.
No, I don’t see either Emma or Neal being out for revenge. Hook may be out for revenge and kill Tamara before they find out Neal’s alive, but Emma wouldn’t go there. I could see Neal being protective of Emma, because he doesn’t trust Hook. I could see Neal issue a stern warning to Hook that if he hurts Emma, then all bets are off. But he wouldn’t actively set out to hurt Hook, just because he sensed there may be an attraction.
Oooh, I wonder if Neal, in a bout of shouting and anger with Hook reveals to Emma that Hook’s true love was his mother. Wouldn’t that be twisted! I can just imagine Emma “What the….?” look on her face. And then her storming out on both of them.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
Oooh, I wonder if Neal, in a bout of shouting and anger with Hook reveals to Emma that Hook’s true love was his mother. Wouldn’t that be twisted! I can just imagine Emma “What the….?” look on her face. And then her storming out on both of them.
I know there was a bit of discussion on this in another thread, but I reckon Hook will probably spill the beans to Emma himself. No matter who tells her, I hope we see her have a “moment” where she tries to wrap her head around it.
I wonder when exactly Neal will make it out of FTL and end up in the same world as Emma and Hook? We were speculating over the last day or so that if there are Merry Men still in FTL, maybe they’ll help him? If so, might make sense to film that stuff round about now while all those actors are in town? If he’s gonna end up in NL, might make sense to be the ep where Ariel debuts, so the first thing we see of her is her helping him when he’s fresh out of a portal, and they could parallel that with her saving Eric in flashbacks? Maybe? But would 306 be too soon to drop Neal into the middle of whatever’s happening with CS?
Based on the fact that we haven’t seen MAP since 303 and both Sarah and Jamie are about to start shooting their news shows, if they aren’t already, Neal have left FTL already is *maybe* is back in SB
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Unless they shot a scene for an earlier ep where Neal ended up with the Merry Men, and they’re gonna pick up his story again at that point now, without the need for MAP any more?
So at least something good came out of that spammer on twitter-confirmation that Neal couldn’t have stayed. I’m not sure I’d agree they explored why he stopped looking for her (other than being afraid she could never forgive him).
I also think its interesting how all of us have different thoughts on how much CS there will be. I don’t expect much SF for a long time, at least until the midpoint next season and I think it will start off very tense and angsty. I think there are a lot of complicated feelings between them.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Agreed that they could do with some more explanation on why he wasn’t looking for her, (the basics of his logic seem obvious from one ship’s perspective, but completely unexplained from the other ship’s perspective, so some blatant storytelling would be nice so both sides have more evidence to judge on), but I’m hopeful we’ll see Neal’s post-Emma years at some point. I’d love it if he spent some time in Tallahassee himself. Maybe he went there while Emma was doing her time, and he left town right before she got there?
I’m glad Adam flat out said that Neal couldn’t have stayed. Again, it’s another thing that seems obvious from one perspective, and illogical from the opposing perspective.
I just imagine myself being Emma, and having the guy I’m in love with, the father of my child, start talking about how he was born a few hundred years ago in FTL, and how I’m the Saviour who’s destined to break a Curse, and if I just let him take me to a little town in rural Maine that’s not even on any maps…I wouldn’t have bought that if I were Emma. I’d have thought the guy I loved had snapped, and was a psycho who had played me, and now wanted to lure me into the woods in the middle of nowhere so he could off me, and also possibly our child. I’d have packed up my bags and the baby and made a run for it.
There was really no way that Neal could have stayed with Emma. He wanted her to break the Curse and eventually find her family, (even if that meant his own father could then be able to find him), and the only way for her to find that happiness that he knew she craved, was to leave her. It was a SUCKY situation, but there was no other option.
I hope we get some more August flashbacks so we can see exactly what he said to Neal.
I agree with everything Phee said! A lot of time when I see the other side talk about why Neal and Emma shouldn’t be together it’s because “he broke her heart and left her” and they don’t see what we see and what I think A and E want us to see: he sacrificed his own happiness for the sake of thousands of lives and so that Emma could find her family. If you asked Emma (who’s opinion is really the only one that matters) if she regrets finding her family or her son or realizing her destiny I don’t think she’d say yes. I think they have issues but Emma understands why he did what he did. Neal is a hero and a savior just like her.
Oh man do I want some more August and Neal flashbacks because I’m convinced that August called the police and Neal didn’t want him to do that. I also think that Neal went looking for her but was constantly prevented from finding her by THO.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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