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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • December 15, 2013 at 11:12 pm #230984
    Slurpeez
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    lunatiger wrote:  Also 3×12 promo has a glimpse of Emma looking at Neal’s dreamcatcher. I’m wondering if the curse wiped Storybrooke but none of Neal’s possessions in New York since it’s not a part of Storybrooke, FTL, or near proximity to magic in general. Emma may have to jog her memories with the dreamcatcher! GAH!!!! My feels…

    From Tumblr:

     

    Emma finds the dreamcatcher again in the promo for “New York City Serenade” 

    The clip form the promo from 3×12 is not from “Manhattan”! I repeat, the clip is new! Here is a side by side. Look and compare that the scenes are different! That means Emma discovers Neal again! She’s going to see him again in 3×12 (or at least his apartment). *Crying!*

    #HopeforSwanFire

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 15, 2013 at 11:18 pm #230991
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    is it possible that the dreamcather is her tailsman then?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 15, 2013 at 11:27 pm #230999
    Phee
    Participant

    Slurpeez108 wrote:

    CS is playing out first, which tells me that SF is pretty much going to come last. Emma is cursed and Hook’s kiss didn’t awaken her. I think Neal’s kiss will awaken Emma. I have faith that Emma, Henry and Neal are end-game.

    I’m hesistant about kiss cause his IS a big parallel to Dark Heart Snowing and pre-Lacey Belle. I’ll grant the CSers that (if you’re reading this…and I know you are). But I think the talisman is going to bring her back because I doubt Emma stays cursed for very long but a TLK from either guy is too sudden.

    Both of those situations had mutual love there beforehand though, so I don’t think it’s exactly the same. When Hook told Emma he’d think about her constantly, all she said in response was, “Good.” This is how that scene played out…

    Emma was standing with her parents…
    Emma walked over to Neal…
    Emma apologised to Neal because she’s sympathising with how he has to go back to FTL…
    Emma moved in to hug Neal…
    They had an EPIC HUG…
    Emma walked away, not looking at anyone, and walked towards the line & the Bug…
    Hook walked all the way over to her and turned her around…
    Hook said he’ll think about her every day…
    Emma half smiled and said “Good”…
    Hook walked off, and Regina walked up to Emma.

    If there was meant to be mutual love there for CS, they should have had Emma respond that she’d think of him too, not just, “Good.” They should have had Emma move in to hug him like she didn’t want to say goodbye, but there was none of that. It was the ideal opportunity if they wanted to show Emma feeling something for Hook, and they didn’t. And like I said at the top of the post, the other instances where the TLK didn’t work, there had been mutual love there previously, and that love was able to be re-realised. So it’s not an exact parallel IMO.

    ETA WOW that is actually a new scene?! Well that’s an interesting development for sure!

    December 15, 2013 at 11:31 pm #231000
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Emma walked away, not looking at anyone, and walked towards the line & the Bug… Hook walked all the way over to her and turned her around… Hook said he’ll think about her every day… Emma half smiled and said “Good”… Hook walked off, and Regina walked up to Emma.

    True. Once again it was Hook who steps up. Emma went to Neal. Hook went to Emma.

    the dreamcatcher is now my favorite moment of the promo

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 15, 2013 at 11:33 pm #231002
    Ranisha Pitts
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    And Rumple was unable to wake up Lacey with TLK at all. But I would be disappointed with the writers using Rumbelle for CS when Hook was nothing good to either one of them?

    "I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

    December 15, 2013 at 11:33 pm #231003
    astrawoid
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    Slurpeez108 wrote: CS is playing out first, which tells me that SF is pretty much going to come last. Emma is cursed and Hook’s kiss didn’t awaken her. I think Neal’s kiss will awaken Emma. I have faith that Emma, Henry and Neal are end-game.

    I’m hesistant about kiss cause his IS a big parallel to Dark Heart Snowing and pre-Lacey Belle. I’ll grant the CSers that (if you’re reading this…and I know you are). But I think the talisman is going to bring her back because I doubt Emma stays cursed for very long but a TLK from either guy is too sudden.

    If they use a TLK to “reawaken” Emma, I’m just gonna be, ugh, so disappointed.  To me, it just shows how FTL Hook is and how Emma isn’t.  Now she has been a mom to Henry for a whole year ( and more in her mind) and this crazy guy in a pirate’s costume is outside her apartment talking about the parents she never knew.  It actually reminded me a bit of Back to the Future when Doc tells Marty that his son is in trouble or something.  I don’t know why I thought of it but I did.  🙂

    "We were happy."
    "Because... it was born out of true love."

    December 15, 2013 at 11:35 pm #231006
    Josephine
    Participant

    I want to say the dreamcatcher scene is different but it looks the same to me.  I have to pull out my DVD and rewatch the episode.

     

     

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    December 15, 2013 at 11:36 pm #231008
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Would TLK even work with Emma?

    She IS TL. She can have a kiss with anyone and it’d be TLK to break a curse.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    December 15, 2013 at 11:40 pm #231009
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Would TLK even work with Emma? She IS TL. She can have a kiss with anyone and it’d be TLK to break a curse.

    Except Hook! That’s interesting….

    Though Emma’s kiss managed to awaken Graham, and I’m pretty sure Emma wasn’t in love with him. I think Emma just embodies True Love. Emma didn’t even believe she was the savior when that happened.

    Now Emma has no idea who she is, but she still embodies True Love, whether she realizes it or not. In theory, shouldn’t any kiss awaken her? Or does it have to be Emma’s true love who awakens her? We know Henry can’t this time, because he’s cursed, too. So, that leaves, Snow, Charming, or Neal…Or just maybe the Blue Fairy’s blue potion could restore Emma’s memories like she did Belle’s and Sneezy’s true identities.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 15, 2013 at 11:43 pm #231010
    Phee
    Participant

    I want to say the dreamcatcher scene is different but it looks the same to me. I have to pull out my DVD and rewatch the episode.

    Nope it legit looks different. Here’s a link where you can see the whole sequence of screencaps of Emma seeing the dreamcatcher in Manhattan: http://screencapped.net/tv/onceuponatime/thumbnails.php?album=1429&page=28 Nothing matches up with the shot in the promo. In Manhattan, her hand comes right up in the middle of the dreamcatcher as she’s walking up to it, and she unhooks it to hold it. In the promo, she just looks to be standing and looking at it as it hangs there. Lighting is different too, she has a shadow over the top part of her face in Manhattan, but not in the promo. And it’s totally blurry, but I think it looks like her red coat in the promo? In Manhattan, she had a red scarf, but a black coat.

    If Hook needs to have something in the real world to prove to Emma that he knows stuff, then taking her to Neal’s apartment, so she can see that dreamcatcher, would make sense.

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