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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • December 16, 2013 at 12:45 am #231071
    Phee
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    I wonder if Neal gave Hook instructions on how to get Emma to trust him by sending her over to his apartment to retrieve something.I think what ends up happening she sees their Dream catcher by chance (mirror how she found it the last time unexpectedly) which ultimately leads to her taking note for the first time that she doesn’t have the swan necklace on. Therefore buying what he has been trying to tell her. Potential for hopeful some Captain Fire development now thinking about it. Will Hook play up or downplay Neal to Emma given that cursed Emma’s last memory of Neal is believing he never loved her and set her up to go to Jail.

    Really good question, it’ll be interesting to see what Hook does or doesn’t tell her about her actual, un-Cursed relationship with Neal.

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    December 16, 2013 at 12:47 am #231072
    Josephine
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    . I refuse to wish away my vacation to Boston next month, the Olympics, and the start of spring training for my Reds, but DANGIT ALL TO HECK, this is going to be along hiatus!!!! 

    Spring training starts in February. 😀  And you can always watch Curling with me and RG.  We plan on live chatting the Olympics since our “Sleepy Hollow” and “Dracula” will be done by then.  We shall get through this together.

     

     

     

     

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    December 16, 2013 at 12:52 am #231074
    lunatiger
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    Ok going by the spoilers pics that we’ve been getting for 3×12 and 3×13, it’s seems to suggest that everyone is in on the plan to find Emma and make her remember again. I distinctly remember shots of everyone is FTL garb, and Charming giving Hook the same blue potion that we’ve seen Hook give to Emma in NYC police station. Also Charming grabbing Neal’s arm (maybe to stop him from going after Emma himself?) I’m theorizing that they’re all in on the plan and they gave Hook the mission. I think it’s clear that Hook has some help getting to our world. How did he jump realms? He has no magic, how did he get the blue bottle? He has no idea of the significance of the dreamcatcher (which is clear now that Emma is gonna find it again, probably with Hook’s help since Emma’s memory was wipe of her meeting with Neal in “Manhatten” episode so she wouldn’t have known about his apartment) Neal would have had to tell him about his apartment and perhaps bring Emma there for her to see the dreamcatcher or any other items

    GAH this Hiatus is gonna kill me for sure… 🙁

    December 16, 2013 at 12:58 am #231078
    astrawoid
    Participant

    MRJ is such a great actor but some people don’t give him enough credit.  Neal isn’t a weepy character and he is more laid back.  He occasionally gets worked up but for the most part he is easy going and holds in his emotions.  Now some people either can’t relate to that or don’t like that.  They prefer the teary-eyed super passionate type of character but not everyone on the show can be that.  Not to mention just because Neal doesn’t show his emotions constantly on his sleeve doesn’t mean that he doesn’t feel.  He feels a lot and he is passionate but he also wants people to be happy and will step back if that’s what they want.  I just hurt so much for Neal this episode.  I just wanted to give him tons of hugs.  I could see his devastation in his eyes and hear it in his voice.  Not all actors can do that.

    "We were happy."
    "Because... it was born out of true love."

    December 16, 2013 at 1:09 am #231083
    Phee
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    Yeah I think Neal probably tells Hook about the dreamcatcher, because there’ll need to be some way to prove to her that Hook is who he says he is, and knows who he says he knows. GAH, now I’ve got this whole Neal dialogue playing out in my head and it’s making me emo again. “Tell her about the dreamcatcher. Tell her the story of how this one time, she and I snuck into a hotel room, just like we always did because we had no home, so had to scrape by and steal showers when and wherever we could, just like we had to steal food, and anything else we needed to survive. *pauses and smiles sadly at the memory* This one granola family had left a dreamcatcher in the room. Emma said it kept the bad dreams away, and I could do with some flypaper for nightmares, so I kept it. It’s hanging in the window of my apartment in NYC. Tell her that, take her there, and seeing it will prove to her that you know me.”

    December 16, 2013 at 1:10 am #231084
    Slurpeez
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    Fluffing your SF auras everyone! From Tumblr:

    • Emma tried to comfort Neal when he lost Rumple.
    • Emma hugged Neal goodbye.
    • “This isn’t over. I’ll see both of you again.”
    • Emma and Henry drove away in the yellow bug, which was once Emma and Neal’s home.
    • And then ended up in New York, the same place Neal ended up in before.
    • Emma and Neal have a song.
    • Emma’s going to find the dreamcatcher again.
    • Not to mention that she never stopped loving him, and he’ll never stop fighting for her.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    December 16, 2013 at 1:15 am #231085
    astrawoid
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    I just saw something on Tumblr which did upset me (I should know to be more careful but I was curious…).  A former SF/Neal fan decided they hated Neal this episode because he didn’t react enough to his father’s death and just stood there.  Hello?  Are we even watching the same show!?!  Not everyone is going to react the same way first of all.  Secondly, did you see his face!?!  He was broken, devastated, in shock!  Nealfire is not overtly emotional.  He isn’t going to suddenly burst into tears and start sobbing like crazy.  He’s just not that type.  I can understand because neither am I.  I personally just lost my own father this summer.  And it’s still hard to talk about but I didn’t cry at first.  In fact it took me several days, only at his memorial service and his funeral did I cry but it still wasn’t sobbing but the tears wouldn’t stop.  That doesn’t mean I didn’t love him.  It doesn’t mean I didn’t care.  It just means that we all react differently to tragedy.  To assume that Neal didn’t love his father because he wasn’t “emotional” enough.  Ugh!  It kills me.  If you don’t understand Neal, fine but don’t paint him to be this emotionless person because you don’t get him.  Sorry, rant over.

    "We were happy."
    "Because... it was born out of true love."

    December 16, 2013 at 1:15 am #231086
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    OMG, just when I finally stopped crying, I saw this post on Tumblr: http://mrjfire.tumblr.com/post/70163845051

    Pardon me while I go have another good cry. 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁


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    December 16, 2013 at 1:25 am #231090
    Josephine
    Participant

    Oh, Slurpeez, I love that enumeration of their time together.  They have a song!  *sniff*

    My heart is just not in a good place after this episode.  With Emma, Henry and Neal being separated and Rumple gone to who knows where and Belle sobbing on the ground, I don’t know which way is up.

    Must get some sleep.

    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    December 16, 2013 at 1:29 am #231091
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Ok. I just rewatched. I think it’s VERY significant what Hook says after failed kiss in NYC

    “I had to try. It was a long shot. I was hoping you felt as I did.”

    Doesn’t that pretty much sum up the whole relationship?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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