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Omg. Emma’s face.
“I can’t loose you again. This is the price of being the Savior. I don’t get a full happy ending”
*hugs Emma*
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I love the SF gifs! Keep them coming! And here is Emma’s moment of clarity from her SF talisman. Not from the CS kiss. From the SF talisman. That’s right. From Tumblr
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Last one for tonight
And so it goes, one foot after the other
‘Til black and white begin to color in
And I know that holding us in place
Is simply fear of what’s already changed
http://cassidyswan.tumblr.com/post/70174742348/and-so-it-goes-one-foot-after-the-other-til
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."I’m curious now to see how Emma behaves going forward. She has her true love in being a mom to Henry. So, in a way, this is a taste of the happy ending she always wanted, just minus Neal.
. @euge_21 it will definitely impact her #OnceUponATime #PanNeverFails #UglyDucklings
— Jennifer Morrison (@jenmorrisonlive) December 16, 2013
How do you Emma will be impacted by believing she kept Henry his entire life? For the better? Someone on here brought up Grumpy and how he’d rather remember the good and the bad. Do you think that applies to Emma? Would she rather just live a normal life with Henry than never see her parents again or Neal again?
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Did I miss something? At what point during this episode did they show that Hook and Emma were TL? I didn’t see that. Did I miss it? I saw Hook try to kiss Emma but it not working (which doesn’t surprise because she doesn’t even know who Hook is). And I did see that Emma wanted Hook to remember her which did imply that she had some sort of feelings for him but still no proof that this is TL. Sure there might have been some parallels and I’m pretty sure Hook feels like he loves Emma but I haven’t seen any proof that Emma loves Hook. So I don’t see this “triangle” as being over or resolved.
And then there’s the good-bye scene between Emma and Neal. I must admit I was hoping for more but how it played out made sense. Emma already knows how Neal feels, he’s told her but he doesn’t bring it up now because he wants her to go through with leaving with Henry. She has to, there is no other choice and to make Emma feel bad or remind her how much he still loves her would have been insensitive on Neal’s part. He doesn’t want her to feel worse, he just gives her hope that they will see each other again (ala Snowing’s I’ll always find you). And they share an epic hug and that’s it. I think Neal knows how hard this is for Emma. She doesn’t give up and in a way she has to so that Henry won’t be alone. Again, Neal is putting Emma and Henry’s needs before his own. Of course this is tearing him up inside. He just lost his father and now the only other two people that he loves will be gone from him again. His happy ending is gone yet again but instead of breaking down and crying he puts on a brave face because that’s the kind of guy he is. He doesn’t want to put any more pressure on Emma and tho he loves her he doesn’t want her to be sad that she has to leave them all. He holds back his own emotion so that Emma can do what she needs to do without hesitation.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."Did I miss something? At what point during this episode did they show that Hook and Emma were TL? I didn’t see that. Did I miss it? I saw Hook try to kiss Emma but it not working (which doesn’t surprise because she doesn’t even know who Hook is). And I did see that Emma wanted Hook to remember her which did imply that she had some sort of feelings for him but still no proof that this is TL. Sure there might have been some parallels and I’m pretty sure Hook feels like he loves Emma but I haven’t seen any proof that Emma loves Hook. So I don’t see this “triangle” as being over or resolved.
*sigh* Some people have a very shot-term view. CS thinks they’ve “won” and that there is no more love triangle to even speak of. Let them celebrate and have their fun while it lasts, because once it ends, it won’t return. TV love triangles don’t work like that. That is why I bet secretly, some CS fans are worried that CS seems to be playing out before SF does. They’ll deny it, pretend like Neal’s belief in second chances with Emma and Henry was all in vain. Yet, TV dramas almost always match the pair who aren’t right together first . The writers will save the best for last by making the couple who are meant to be last in the order of things. “The last shall be first and the first shall be last.” It may sound like backwards reasoning, but I’d rather have CS come first before SF than after.
And then there’s the good-bye scene between Emma and Neal. I must admit I was hoping for more but how it played out made sense. Emma already knows how Neal feels, he’s told her but he doesn’t bring it up now because he wants her to go through with leaving with Henry. She has to, there is no other choice and to make Emma feel bad or remind her how much he still loves her would have been insensitive on Neal’s part. He doesn’t want her to feel worse, he just gives her hope that they will see each other again (ala Snowing’s I’ll always find you). And they share an epic hug and that’s it. I think Neal knows how hard this is for Emma. She doesn’t give up and in a way she has to so that Henry won’t be alone. Again, Neal is putting Emma and Henry’s needs before his own. Of course this is tearing him up inside. He just lost his father and now the only other two people that he loves will be gone from him again. His happy ending is gone yet again but instead of breaking down and crying he puts on a brave face because that’s the kind of guy he is. He doesn’t want to put any more pressure on Emma and tho he loves her he doesn’t want her to be sad that she has to leave them all. He holds back his own emotion so that Emma can do what she needs to do without hesitation.
There wasn’t anything Neal could do at that moment except assure Emma he’d see her and Henry again. Yet, one thing I noticed is that Neal was smiling as he hugged Emma. It was a smile to conceal his pain perhaps, but I also thought that maybe he has real faith now that he’ll get a happy ending. The last gift his father gave him was hope. Neal now believes that second chances are possible. His father proved that to him by making the right choice of saving everybody. Rumple’s sacrifice wasn’t in vain, and Neal knows now that Emma and Henry will live. That is his happy ending, for his son to grow up not as he did but to be loved by Emma. Neal’s hope is to rejoin them one day. His belief in second chances has been ignited by Rumple’s last words to his son of believing that happiness is possible.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
About to go catch up on the posts since last night but will post my thoughts first. Apologies I’ll probably end up repeating a lot of what’s already been said.
Mixed emotions after the episode really. Good SF things in the episode. Emma going to comfort Neal after Rumple died. When leaving Emma walked over to Neal. She included him in the important group with her parents of people to say oodbye too. She was happy to walk off without saying a word to Hook. It was him who stopped her and when he said not a day would go bye without him thinking of her – her reply ‘good’. I mean if she had feelings for him that would have been a perfect time for a ‘me too’ or something to that effect.
As for the SF scene the hug was incredible sweet and emotional. The scene was everything it could be at that moment. Neal focusing on the fact that Emma had to get Henry out of there, Emma being the one to initiate the hug…God it really hits me in the feels that Neal lost his father, Henry and Emma all in one day. Poor Neal really needs a hug. The ‘This isn’t over. I’ll see both of you again’ line (similar to Belle/Rumbelle) was the absolute best, it’s not over for them. I did find the Regina/Emma and Emma/Snow forehead kiss scenes to have slightly more emotional impact than the rest of the goodbye probably solely due to Emma knowing at that point that her memories would be gone. It’d interesting to wonder if that would have put a different spin on the SF goodbye scene.
The Rumple scene about Neal getting his second chance at happiness was another important one. Rumple recognising Emma and Henry as Neal’s happiness.
Slightly O/T but the Hook/Tink flashback scene had an insane amount of chemistry. I still maintain that I don’t wish this version of Hook on any woman but that scene was smoking. I so enjoy that Hook scene too, unsurprisingly because it was the 1st one in god knows how many episode that there was no mention of Emma Swan. Of course that was wiped away with a quick jolt as we went back to present day Tink/Hook with a heavy-handed/unnecessary/awkwardly insert Emma mention. This episode pretty much esablished that Hook’s storyline revolves around Emma and nothing else and his purpose outside that is limited. If/When CS plays to a logical conclusion what the hell do the writers plan to do with Hook (because personally I do love me some Colin O’Donoghue).
And the last scene, Emma ending up in New York, the song, not of that can be coincidental at all.
Now the interesting part is wondering how Neal fits into cursed memories Emma’s life. In any world he’s Henry’s father and I assume in Emma’s mind events happened in a similar manner with Emma seeing Neal as a bad guy. I’m certain this is part of the reason Hook is undertaking the save Emma mission. Also when Hook said Emma’s family were in danger, I’m certain Neal was included in that.
As for the promo, yay for the dreamcatcher. Love the idea that it could act as a type of tailsman/emotional touchstone for Emma. And going on that last scene and the swift kick to Hook’s special area, I’m probably not the only one who get’s a perverse sense of joy and entertainment of the idea of Hook running around New York harassing Emma and her knocking him back at every opportunity
How do you Emma will be impacted by believing she kept Henry his entire life? For the better? Someone on here brought up Grumpy and how he’d rather remember the good and the bad. Do you think that applies to Emma? Would she rather just live a normal life with Henry than never see her parents again or Neal again?
Based on how she was living, her interaction with Cursed!Henry Emma seems to be ok for herself. I think she struggled early on (or remembers struggling) but that in the end she did it all herself. But I think no orphan ever stop wanting to see their parents.
And it’s interesting that the title of this episode was “Going Home” and our other characters ended up home in the EF, but Emma didn’t return to the home she knew as a girl (Boston) nor the home she thought she wanted (Tallahassee) but the home that Neal built for himself (NYC)
Of course this is tearing him up inside. He just lost his father and now the only other two people that he loves will be gone from him again. His happy ending is gone yet again but instead of breaking down and crying he puts on a brave face because that’s the kind of guy he is. He doesn’t want to put any more pressure on Emma and tho he loves her he doesn’t want her to be sad that she has to leave them all. He holds back his own emotion so that Emma can do what she needs to do without hesitation.
All things for Neal. Just…the poor guy can’t catch a break.
The last gift his father gave him was hope. Neal now believes that second chances are possible. His father proved that to him by making the right choice of saving everybody. Rumple’s sacrifice wasn’t in vain, and Neal knows now that Emma and Henry will live. That is his happy ending, for his son to grow up not as he did but to be loved by Emma. Neal’s hope is to rejoin them one day. His belief in second chances has been ignited by Rumple’s last words to his son of believing that happiness is possible.
Rumple sacrificed himself and his happy ending with Bae and Belle. Neal sacrificed his happy ending with Emma all those years ago. But Rumple’s message is that you can still have a happy ending. <3
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Things that made me smile this morning
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I thought there were some interesting potential SF/Snowing parallels. Remember what Charming said to Snow. “The future we imagined is gone, but that doesn’t mean we can’t find another one, an unexpected one.” Emma and Neal dreamt of a future together, yet it didn’t turn out like the thought. But that doesn’t mean they can’t find another one, together.
Oh I loved that line, and it absolutely made me think of SF!
Though Emma did not verbally reply to Neal after he said, “This isn’t the end. I will see you again,” Emma did initiate a strong bear hug with Neal. That’s something. I noticed her face was trying not to give away too much emotion, probably because she was fighting back her feelings. In her head, Emma was probably internally screaming, “I can’t believe it’s happening again! I’m losing him for a third time. This is what I meant when I said it’d be easier if I didn’t have to face this pain again. Don’t show emotion. Walls up!” Yet, I think RG is right that is when Emma made a beeline for the bug, because she was fighting back the tears already.
Yes, it’s her worst fear coming true. Urgh, I my heart just breaks for her!
While I think CS is headed our way, big time, I’ll just chalk it up to Emma being cursed.
Maybe I’m just being naive, but I’m really not convinced that they’re actually gonna end up being an actual relationship. I mean, if they’re gonna end up back in SB, then Emma has to remember, right? Whether it’s the potion, or seeing the dreamcatcher, Hook WILL get Emma to remember somehow. And it may well happen in 312, because that shot in the promo can only be from 312 or 313, because it’s all they’ve shot, and as far as we know, they were only shooting NYC stuff for 312. So, Hook’s gonna spend time around her and Henry, observing how they get along with fake memories and no Neal, and then he’ll likely also be there when they both remember, and Neal is gonna be one of the first things that both of them remember, and then it’s gonna smack Hook in the face that not only does Neal love Emma, but she loves him right back, (he’s been cocky thus far because he doesn’t think Emma would want Neal back), and though he’s made a comment about “doing it for the boy”, he’s gonna be smacked in the face by exactly how much Henry’s dad means to him. Hook’s gonna witness that single parent family, which he didn’t get to see that other time, because Milah left with him, and he never saw what the single parent family left behind was like. But this time he can’t ignore it, can’t ignore the emotions involved for everyone, can’t ignore how his actions would affect them all if he insists of pursuing Emma. And if he’s been hanging out with Neal for a year, he’s probably got a new perspective on just how much Emma means to him as well. It seem that Emma, Hook and Henry, are gonna drive back to SB, and you know what I’d love, a scene where Henry’s fallen asleep in the back seat, and Emma tells Hook the story of where the Bug comes from, and when he realises that and how she kept it because of her love for Neal, that could impact him too. I dunno, like I said, maybe I’m being naive. but they’ve shown him try with the kiss at the door, and seemingly admit defeat, and he’s gonna be helping Emma and Henry to remember Neal, and how can that NOT affect him? And maybe I’m also naive to hope for that sort of character development from Hook so soon, but it just seems like a great situation where he ends up getting a reality check, and he LEGITIMATELY backs off after the NYC stuff.
How do you Emma will be impacted by believing she kept Henry his entire life? For the better? Someone on here brought up Grumpy and how he’d rather remember the good and the bad. Do you think that applies to Emma? Would she rather just live a normal life with Henry than never see her parents again or Neal again?
She seemed pretty well adjusted, so I’d say that keeping Henry made her more content with life, and it made the losses of her parents and Neal a bit easier to cope with. Of course, Henry being there is a constant reminder of Neal, so he must be on her mind from time to time, and I’m sure she has moments where she drifts back to that time and place where they were together. But despite the hurt she went through when he left, she still has Henry as a result of that relationship, and he means the world to her and gives her strength.
Again, Neal is putting Emma and Henry’s needs before his own. Of course this is tearing him up inside. He just lost his father and now the only other two people that he loves will be gone from him again. His happy ending is gone yet again but instead of breaking down and crying he puts on a brave face because that’s the kind of guy he is. He doesn’t want to put any more pressure on Emma and tho he loves her he doesn’t want her to be sad that she has to leave them all. He holds back his own emotion so that Emma can do what she needs to do without hesitation.
God, he just lost everyone all at once, didn’t he. Father, creepy grandfather, son, and the woman he loves, all in the space of a few moments. That poor bugger! Yet he managed to keep it together enough to put on a brave face for her, and for Henry. He’s so resilient and brave, I can’t even!!!
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