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December 18, 2013 at 6:31 pm #232135
TheGoldenKey
ParticipantAh……feels good to be in a SwanFire safe place. 🙂 I don’t get to posting as much as I like to these days, but when I do, I like to come here because it’s home
Some of you will remember Gypsy on this board. She likes to frequent another popular fan site. She sent me a link to a thread last week and I couldn’t believe the hatred for Neal in it. Not just that thread, but spreading throughout the site. Someone was saying that Neal is actually a villain. No word of lie, a VILLAIN! People were supporting that and bashing the character like crazy! I had to jump in and post using canon to counter what they were saying (yep, they were even making up scenes that hadn’t occurred on the show) and then they went crazy over my suggesting that they were wrong because their arguments countered canon (confirmed tweets/interviews/podcast/script). Yep, even canon is wrong over there because they say Adam & Eddy lie. LOL! Someone from this site (not going to say who) even went at it and tore Neal to shreds and refused to acknowledge official podcasts, where K&H discuss Neal in great depth.
We all love to ship, I get that as I’m a SwanFire girl at heart and always will be. Having a thread with a ship is one thing; but when a board becomes nothing more than a ship fan site, that’s quite another. Especially when you start demonizing a decent character all because’s he’s a competing ship to yours.
Neal is listed in Wiki as a hero, he has proven himself to be heroic time and time again, and he is just a gentle soul that would never intentional hurt another human being.
I was thrilled to see Emma looking at that Dreamcatcher in the promo (looks exactly like Neal’s from his apartment) and even more so to hear them play Charley’s Girl, Neal’s song from when we first sat eyes on him in Broken.
Things may be looking optimist for CS right now but the game is far from over. I want to see Neal play hard core Hero this latter part of S3 and hopefully the writers do to.
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
December 18, 2013 at 7:25 pm #232144RumplesGirl
KeymasterNot just that thread, but spreading throughout the site. Someone was saying that Neal is actually a villain. No word of lie, a VILLAIN! People were supporting that and bashing the character like crazy!
And I think a lot of that has to do with it being easier to disregard a potential ship if the other male is just “villain!” So Hook becomes a tragic anti-hero/hero and Neal is just straight up villain. And Emma, being the Savior could not possibly be with a villain, problems solved.
That’s why i like this site… even when visiting other threads for the most part everyone is tame and at least take their nasty side elsewhere
Thus why I refer to this place as civilization and everywhere as (especially Tumblr) as the wilds.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 18, 2013 at 8:06 pm #232151Slurpeez
ParticipantHi. I read your essay and agree with quite a bit. I ship CS… so obviously not all of it. lol. I am NOT Anti Neal. I like Neal. And I do not ship all available characters with somebody to just have somebody. I didnt ship Emma with anyone until Hook. Not here to debate that anyway – just didnt want you to think i was Anti Neal. But I agree that OUAT is a big stretch from the literary Hook.
It’s not my essay, just one I read on Tumblr and found interesting. It’s nice to see someone who ships CS who doesn’t hate Neal. Also, I agree that while OUAT is known for its twists, their version of Hook has almost become unrecognizable from J.M. Barrie’s original character. I’d rather see Hook be at least somewhat dangerous and have way more interactions with Peter Pan! We never found out exactly what “dirty work” Hook did for Peter Pan which was mentioned in 3×5 but never expanded upon. As someone who grew up loving that story, I’m sad that Once’s version seem to lack very little, if any, consistency with the original story. I’m not even sure I liked this dark version of Neverland or Peter Pan. I’ll never again think of him as an adventurous little boy but as a devious villain. It’s just tarnished this beloved childhood story for me. The only character from Neverland whom I’ve really enjoyed is Tinkerbell.
And you’re right – he is more Jack Sparrow than Hook. And I have also brought up on CS’s thread that he does get his butt handed to him way too often to be Hook… its kind of insulting. I have read that Hook was supposed to be utterly ruthless and way scary… and while yes it would detract from their whole Villains and Redemption theme for S3 I would think that a military trained naval officer turned pirate who survived for 300 years in hostile territory with 1 hand and a bunch of ruthless alliances would learn how to defend himself from a librarian and fairy… at least. For goodness sake’s the real Hook would be utterly ashamed.
I agree. I love Colin as an actor, and he does the best with what he’s given. Yet, in my opinion, this OUAT version of Hook is too in love with the floor not to be knocked down. 🙂 He reminds me a bit of Jack Sparrow and his tipsy stumbling from drinking too much rum (and I love Jack so that’s not a put down just an observation).
That being said… I do still like Colin’s Hook but I think you have a lot of good points on how OUAT has deviated quite a bit from the book. I’m just glad he didnt turn out with the huge mustache, perm, and feathered hat from Disney. he he
You and me both though it would be funny to see 🙂
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 18, 2013 at 8:25 pm #232157RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnyone got a happy thought? Something pretty?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 18, 2013 at 8:29 pm #232159RumplesGirl
Keymaster"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 18, 2013 at 8:40 pm #232160Slurpeez
ParticipantLove the video, RG! It’s perfect!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 18, 2013 at 8:45 pm #232163RumplesGirl
KeymasterTime, space, and erased memories. And still the girl ends up in an NYC apartment playing “Charley’s Girl”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 18, 2013 at 8:56 pm #232168Slurpeez
ParticipantHere is another SF family video:
Emma and Neal + Henry || Wrecking ball
Emma & Neal – Take Me Back to the Start
Emma & Neal – Light Up
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
December 18, 2013 at 9:08 pm #232176RumplesGirl
Keymaster🙂
That one was excellent Slurpeez!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 18, 2013 at 9:51 pm #232183Slurpeez
ParticipantReposting because of hope that it isn’t over for Emma and Neal! This is the writers’ way of assuring us that Emma and Neal’s story is far from over! From Tumblr
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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