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So I wanted to go back and re-read everything you guys wrote
One more random thing…Double Standards is something Im tired of hearing about because look, characters on the show hold Hook accountable at times for the things he did to them, not Emma.
I see what you’re saying. But I think it’s the fandom more than the characters. As if the sins of one man weigh greater than the sins of another
Emma walks away and I think she is on the verge of losing it when Hook comes up to her. I think she is already a bit teary eyed because of her goodbye with Neal but also because she probably does feel something for Hook but (and maybe this is more my shipper googles talking here) I think she is sad more because of the lost opportunity of what might have been with them rather than her necessarily feeling that strongly about Hook.
for sure Emma was already upset. Look at her eyes when SHE hugs Neal. She’s hurt that this is happening all over again.
I really hope that they spend the second half of this season showing us that Neal and Emma are suppose to be together. I agree with everyone else when they have said why drag out all the feelings between Emma and Neal if they aren’t going anywhere with it?
Yes put us our of our misery if they don’t intend to do something
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Whole-heartedly agree with all of THIS ^^^^
Adam Horowitz is a huge Rocky fan! Interesting!
“@GBerlanti: @AdamHorowitzLA It's the Empire Strikes Back of Rocky movies.” Yes!!!!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) August 8, 2013
You fight great. But I'm a great fighter. Goodnight Rocky III!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) December 17, 2013
That would explain all of the similarities I see between Neal and Rocky!
Neal was the only person who made it seem as though this wasn’t the end. Everyone else acted as though they’d never see Emma ever again. But Neal knows better. He knows how this has to play out because he has been through it before. This isn’t over.
Yep. The name Neal means “champion” which is interesting, since Rocky’s entire theme was to become a champion fighter.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Yep. The name Neal means “champion” which is interesting, since Rocky’s entire theme was to become a champion fighter.
The champion and the savior.
More poetry!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If they wanted to make Neal just a bad guy who used her, they could have made it just about the watches, not complicate matters with the curse. I think they did that to make the situation seem one way to Emma, but another to Neal and that creates the tragedy of it, that for me at least, set me up to root for them to fix it.
Exactly. Emma’s belief is that Neal was a just a bad guy who left her heartbroken for no good reason. That is what the audience was conditioned to think ever since “True North” when Emma told Mary Margaret about the “truth” of Henry’s father. Yet, Emma only saw one segment of the truth. For ten years, she was completely in the dark about the entire truth of fairytales, curses or her role as the savior. Yet in 3×4, Emma tells her parents that actually, she knows better now and realizes that Neal never stopped loving her, just as she never stopped loving him. It doesn’t make it any less painful, but at least her eyes were then opened to the truth until she lost her memories again.
CS fans who claim that Neal could have stayed and helped Emma realize her true destiny are basically the ones with the burden of proof. Yet, August says that Neal staying with Emma would have prevented Emma from saving her parents. According to Adam and Eddy (you know the guys who actually write the show), Neal fell on his sword, gave up his idea of a happy ending with Emma, made the self-sacrifice for the sake of Emma’s family and everybody else from EF. Yet, it had to be the case that Neal left Emma to fulfill her destiny, for Henry to come looking for her, and for Henry to be the one to convince Emma by eating the poisoned apple. The only reason Emma stuck around SB was for Henry, because she was worried about him thinking Regina didn’t love him and that her kid was crazy to believe in fairytales. Emma wouldn’t have believed the truth coming form a grown man; look at how Emma reacted to August, who was turning back into wood for Pete’s sake. Yet, Emma didn’t want to believe the evidence and so she didn’t! It took Henry’s asymptomatic “death” for Emma to believe in magic and that Henry was telling the truth! She had to in the right frame of mind to believe and then emotionally had to be receptive to being a mother. I think Emma never would have embraced her role of the savior if Henry hadn’t thrust it upon her.
ETA: Here is another pro-Neal OUAT confession from Tumblr
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
She would have just told Neal that all the pain and hurt was too much and that she is moving on and so should he. But she never does. She never tells Neal to move on. Even when he tells her that he’ll fight for her, she doesn’t say, don’t do that. She doesn’t tell him to let their love go and move on. So to me, that means a part of her still wants a future with Neal even though she’s not sure if she can have one with him. She doesn’t want Neal to move on and go on with his life without her. She herself isn’t really sure what she wants or what she can have anymore.
Emma definitely wants a second chance with Neal! Rumple said so to her face in “Manhattan” even though Emma kept saying “Do I look like a jealous ex?” as a defense. Yet, it’s clear she was! She told Neal it hurt her to see him having found “Tallhassee” with someone else. Emma doesn’t want Neal to move on because she still wants to have Tallahassee with him. She just wasn’t sure she was ready in 3×10 to meet Neal for lunch, because she kept expecting something bad to happen and then it did in 3×11. Yet, someday, she will be ready, and when she is, Neal will be waiting for her.
PriceofMagic Participant I like how both Belle and Neal said “I will see you again” to their respective loved ones when both Rumple and Emma believed they wouldn’t.
In my eyes, that is one of the biggest true parallels to Rumbelle. Also the way that Belle reacted to Rumple’s “death” in 3×11 was to say “he’s gone” just like Emma said “he’s gone” when Neal “died” in 2×21. Also, the way that Neal said he’s never going to stop fighting for Emma in 3×6 was a clear and deliberate parallel to “The Outsider” when Belle said she’d never stop fighting for Rumple. “You can’t keep us apart forever!” is the cry of every Rumbeller to this day! *hands tissue to RG*
astrawoid wrote: I really hope that they spend the second half of this season showing us that Neal and Emma are suppose to be together. I agree with everyone else when they have said why drag out all the feelings between Emma and Neal if they aren’t going anywhere with it?
Yes put us our of our misery if they don’t intend to do something
Just shoot us now! Yet, I really think the writers are dragging it out for the sake of 1) TV drams and 2) Emma and Neal getting back together is an end-game type reunion. My hope though is that if OUAT only plans on being around 4 seasons, then end of S3 would be the time to start Emma and Neal towards the road of reconciliation without the need for fake fiancés, road blocks or new curses. Emma and Neal have enough to work through on their own without added drama.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Now I have mental fan-fiction of young Neal learning how to box or staying in the basement of a boxing gym when he came back to our world at 8:15 of course.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
A part me (well the shipper part, lol) thinks that deep down she wished that Neal could come. It was the way she said you have to go back there, there resignation in her tone, as if she wished there was a way he can come and they can try to form Tallahassee together. Emma sees Neal as being a part of our world, her world, like Henry and herself. She like us probably thinks he should be leaving with them in the yellow bug, they place they once called home.
Their motivations are still the same, Emma & Neall, all they ever wanted was home and family.
"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
[Jason mraz]
When I look into your eyes
It’s like watching the night sky
Or a beautiful sunrise
There’s so much they hold
And just like them old stars
I see that you’ve come so far
To be right where you are
How old is your soul?I won’t give up on us
Even if the skies get rough
I’m giving you all my love
I’m still looking upAnd when you’re needing your space
To do some navigating
I’ll be here patiently waiting
To see what you find‘Cause even the stars they burn
Some even fall to the earth
We’ve got a lot to learn
God knows we’re worth it
No, I won’t give upI don’t wanna be someone who walks away so easily
I’m here to stay and make the difference that I can makeOur differences they do a lot to teach us how to use the tools and gifts we got Yeah, we got a lot at stake
And in the end you’re still my friend, at least we did intend for us to work
We didn’t break, we didn’t burn
We had to learn how to bend without the world caving in
I had to learn what I’ve got, and what I’m not
And who I am.I won’t give up on us
Even if the skies get rough
I’m giving you all my love
I’m still looking up
Still looking up…I won’t give up on us
(No I’m not giving up)
God knows I’m tough, He knows
(I am tough, I am loved)
We’ve got a lot to learn
(We are alive, We are loved)
God knows we’re worth it
(And were worth it)I won’t give up on us
Even if the skies get rough
I’m giving you all my love
I’m still looking up…"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Oh My Gosh, Ranisha. Those lyrics were perfect! *sobs*
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."Perfect lyrics!!!
A part me (well the shipper part, lol) thinks that deep down she wished that Neal could come. It was the way she said you have to go back there, there resignation in her tone, as if she wished there was a way he can come and they can try to form Tallahassee together. Emma sees Neal as being a part of our world, her world, like Henry and herself. She like us probably thinks he should be leaving with them in the yellow bug, they place they once called home. Their motivations are still the same, Emma & Neall, all they ever wanted was home and family.
also, all of this!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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