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This is why I’m not overly worried about the “triangle” being one of those sensationalistic things that’s just done for romance drama. If/when Hook and Emma do become closer, it’s because Nealfire is bringing them closer together, because they each have their own personal relationship with him too. So any emotional drama will be genuine, meaningful evaluation of feelings on each of their behalves, as opposed to flippant, sexually fueled desire type drama. I think it’ll be really interesting to see how it all develops.
Glad you’re not worried. I get more worried with every passing CS drives spoiler.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Maybe Dr. Whale can tell Emma the news that “He’s alive, he’s alive!”.
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Seriously though, I do wonder how she’s gonna find out he’s alive. I’d like to see him show up completely outta the blue in NL, because Emma’s reaction would be priceless. Had a totally cracky thought the other day that maybe she ends up in the water because a mermaid appears to Emma as Neal floating in the water and she dives in to save him. We don’t know if Onceiverse mermaids will even have that ability though, so it’s really just a totally random pondering on my part, based on Adam including the word “illusion” in that tweet. But then I thought how something like that could be a setup for when he shows up for real, and because she was fooled before, Emma won’t believe it’s really him, and he’ll have to prove it somehow. Maybe by producing the swan keychain and recounting the story of the day he gave it to her, or something?
Glad you’re not worried. I get more worried with every passing CS drives spoiler.
The way I see the spoilers in the media is that the people writing those articles only have so much info. They have pics and clips released by the ABC promo department, and they have interview answers from K&H that they pick soundgrabs out of. Like Adam keeps tweeting, he doesn’t like to give away spoilers, so any interview soundgrab in an article isn’t some specific spoiler they coughed up. Shippy stuff makes for good hype, so it’s not surprising if the promo department is pushing shippy stuff. Doesn’t mean that’s actually what will be the focus of the show though. So, whatever gets the media attention right now, just keep in mind…
@HookHater77 @rochiss271 unless the writing on wall is in my office, you don't know!
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) September 18, 2013
…and the people doing the promo can’t see the wall in Adam’s office. So I’m just gonna wait and watch and see what happens.Re-watching the sneak peek for the frillionth time and it hit me for the first time that the way they’ve framed the shot where she’s holding the sword, they cut off her head, so you just see her chest, with the big, vacant space where the swan used to sit. ( 🙁 ) And in that same shot as the vacant space where the swan was, we have her hands holding his sword.
Every day since she met him, some part of him has been with her. When he left and she was in jail alone, she had his child growing inside her. She wore the swan every single day. She drove their Bug. Even after she took the swan off, he was still right there in front of her, and Henry was there, and she still had the Bug. Then Neal went down the portal. Henry was taken away. She had to leave the Bug behind to go after him. And not even a day later, here’s another symbol of him being put back into her hands in the form of his sword, which she’s gonna carry with her. Even if they’re torn apart, even if every part of him is stripped away from her, there will always be something else, so he’s with her constantly. Because: DESTINED to be together, entwined for eternity!
BRB SOBBING FOREVER BECAUSE OF PHEE’S POST
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Phee. Feels. Pheeeeelsss.
I think that has the poetic vibe to it, and I like your interpretation.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
slurpeez108 wrote: I agree! Emma never got to fully know the man she’s loved for over a decade. Now she probably feels robbed of the chance to ever get to know him fully as she would have wished. Here Emma is doing pull-ups for a fight, and probably thinking to herself that if she could only have been stronger, she could have held onto Neal longer to save him. *I’m making myself tear up.*
You’re making me tear up too! Urgh!
Don’t remember if it was someone on the forum or someone on tumblr, but I read a comment somewhere that suggested that Emma’s run in with Rumple could have been him blaming her for not having held onto Neal’s hand. Which, just, FEELS, because Rumple’s spent centuries beating himself up for not having held onto his hand, and now he’s transferring that self loathing onto Emma. Same thing as what he did when he beat up Mo, screaming about how he’d hurt Belle. Being in NL, the place where Bae lived for a couple hundred years, will give her some new insight into him. When she sees what he had to go through just to be able to survive, having to deal with the likes of PP and Felix, it’ll give her a new understanding of the guy he was when she met him. And Hook will probably fill in some Bae details for her along the way as well. Basically, her whole time in NL, she’ll be learning more about Neal, and will have a physical connection to him too, because of that sword. I can see her having a whole new appreciation for him by the time they meet up again.That is a good interpretation! What could Rumple have said to Emma to provoke her to doing pull-ups? As I suggested, she might be thinking about how her strength failed her when she couldn’t hold onto Neal long enough to save him. Hook’s comment about not letting Rumplestiltskin’s words get to her then suddenly makes a lot more sense. Clearly, Rumple said something to Emma which upset her. Rumplestiltskin could very well have laid on the guilt that he himself has carried around for centuries. I could really see Rumple expressing anger at Emma like he did in “Manhattan” when he openly threatened her to tell him where his son was. Now that Neal is gone, Rumple might again be resorting to anger over Emma not saving Neal. Rumple might yell, “You lost him! You let go of him!” at Emma and then disappear before her eyes. Yet, we, the audience will know he’s truly yelling at himself for having lost his son not once, but twice.
Every day since she met him, some part of him has been with her. When he left and she was in jail alone, she had his child growing inside her. She wore the swan every single day. She drove their Bug. Even after she took the swan off, he was still right there in front of her, and Henry was there, and she still had the Bug. Then Neal went down the portal. Henry was taken away. She had to leave the Bug behind to go after him. And not even a day later, here’s another symbol of him being put back into her hands in the form of his sword, which she’s gonna carry with her. Even if they’re torn apart, even if every part of him is stripped away from her, there will always be something else, so he’s with her constantly. Because: DESTINED to be together, entwined for eternity!
*sobbing * Yes, that sword is highly symbolic! Not only is it something Emma can remember Neal by, but she’ll carry it with her at all times and use it to defend herself in battle. Baelfire’s sword is Emma’s protection againt danger, and it will give her strength to help her save their son. She will carry it with her everyday until the day that Neal amazingly returns to her from his supposed “death” to help her in their mission to win back their son, together. They will find their son, because family always finds each other.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Baelfire’s sword is Emma’s protection again danger, and it will give her strength to help her save their son.
It’s such a beautiful thing! *sniffle* Our ship is gonna be transcending realms! Just like Rumbelle will be. Can’t complain about being in that kinda company.
Have to quote Neal’s dialog from Tallahasse:
Neal: And if I can’t be there for her, man, you got to promise me that you will be.
August: I promise.
Neal: Then you should do something for me. I was able to fence the watches. Don’t judge me. I’m giving it all to her. And the car – I got a clean VIN number for it, so it’s legit. I just… It’ll feel like I’m there with her, you know?
Hook could end up being in the role that August was supposed to play–the one to help her when Neal couldn’t be there with her. I have faith Hook will turn out to be more trustworthy than August. Looking back, Emma’s lie detector did ring false on August. She thought he moved the shovel out of Regina’s garage (but it was Sydney that bugged her office and betrayed her, not August). All the circumstantial evidence pointed to him, and she accused him and he says he would never betray her and he is not a liar. She didn’t believe him until she found Sydney’s bug. This is interesting as it is the opposite with Hook. She didn’t trust him but she could have to a certain extent, and with August, she shouldn’t have trusted him to a certain extent, but he was not lying about that specific thing. August betrayed Emma and lied to her about the past, but Emma never realized it. When it all starts to come to light, he ends up getting the reboot treatment. All the tension they set up between August/Emma/Neal was just washed away, and I can’t help but wonder if part of the plan of the writers was –let’s do this with Hook in a parallel way instead. I hope the writers do not make that mistake again of sweeping the conflicts here under the rug.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
All the tension they set up between August/Emma/Neal was just washed away, and I can’t help but wonder if part of the plan of the writers was –let’s do this with Hook in a parallel way instead.
That’s a really interesting observation and speculation! It would be a great way for them to develop Hook and Emma’s relationship, and it’d set up an extra dimension of the three way relationship for them to deal with once Neal is back on the scene.
I’ve always hoped that Neal and Hook would be able to resolve their issues and become friends, and Hook looking out for Emma in NL could certainly contribute towards that. I’m reminded of Neal’s snark about how he likes August more when he can’t steal his money, so it’s obviously an issue that’s stuck in the back of his mind. Showing things playing out differently, with Hook actually looking out for Emma without Neal even having had to ask, would be a nice little mirror to that previous storyline. Of course, Neal would initially think, “Yeah, I’ll bet you were looking out for her,” and be suspicious of Hook’s intentions, but Emma can be all, “Actually, yeah, he really did.” It could provide for a major turning point in the CaptainFire relationship.
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