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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 8, 2014 at 2:33 pm #235893
    melbell
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    Hello!

    I’ve been lurking in this thread a little while and just wanted to tell you all thank you for posting such pretty Swanfire things and thoughts!

    Honestly, I didn’t know what a ship was until a few weeks ago and just came on this site to see thoughts about Neal and Emma after I found myself a little unhappy with the little screen time between Neal and Emma in the midseason finale.

    I’m just a loyal OUAT viewer- Don’t normally look at spoilers (until now!) and been seeing a few comments in this thread about what a casual viewer might think about the CSF love triangle.  Just wanted to let you all know that until episode 5 (the CS kiss), I didn’t realize there was a love triangle- just thought that Emma and Neal NEEDED to find each other in Neverland and how tragic it was that she thought he was still dead.  To me, I always thought Emma and Neal were endgame but can’t be together yet because… well most shows don’t put their endgame couple together without a few obstacles.  And my mom and I watched all of season 3 over the holiday break (she hadn’t seen any season 3 episodes so we had a OUAT marathon!) and my mom had actually forgotten a lot of info from season 2 and somehow got it in her mind that Neal and Emma were married- she kept calling Neal Emma’s husband (lol). Sorry, I am rambling, but I just wanted to give you all a little insight in how a casual viewer might see the whole love triangle thing.

    I did want to say that I am a big fan of Hook and wished they had given him a better storyline in the first part of season 3.  Would still love to see the deal he made with Pan to get out of Neverland and how he and Bae kept in contact after he let the lost boys take Bae from the Jolly Roger… I mean, how did he know where Bea’s cave was? Did they ever reconcile about Milah?  After rewatching the season 2 finally, it was pretty clear to me that the reason Hook went to Neverland with Emma and the gang was because he felt he needed to help Bae’s son because of some kind of father-like relationship with Bea and regret that he let the lost boys take Bae in the first place.  I would love to see some real Neal and Hook interaction this second half of the season because I just love both these characters.

    Oh- my thoughts on the midseason finally: (Sorry this is so long… turns out I’ve had a lot of thoughts about OUAT I needed to write down) What I really wanted to see was Neal’s little conversation with Henry once Emma started heading towards the bug.  I love that father-son relationship, and wish they had shown what Neal told Henry, but I imagine Neal said “Don’t worry buddy- I’ll find you and your mom.  Family always finds each other”.  I know Neal was trying to keep things light so Henry would not get too worried.  I think that it was so brave and selfless of Neal to do that so Henry could have hope to see him again.  After watching the episode again I noticed that as Regina was telling Emma about escaping the curse and Snow is telling her that she has touched the lives of everyone there is a brief shot of Neal and his face as he is registering that Emma and Henry are leaving him.  To me, there seems like panic in his eyes about losing the two people he loves most, but you can almost tell he is formulating some sort of plan right there to see them again.

    Anyway… just wanted to say how much I adore the whole Swanfire Family!  Writing some of my thoughts down was a lot of fun! I might be popping in here and there adding to the Swanfire love.  Thank you guys for posting such beautiful things- can’t wait until March!

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    January 8, 2014 at 2:40 pm #235894
    Slurpeez
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    Anyway… just wanted to say how much I adore the whole Swanfire Family!  Writing some of my thoughts down was a lot of fun! I might be popping in here and there adding to the Swanfire love.  Thank you guys for posting such beautiful things- can’t wait until March!

    Welcome, melbell! It’s always great to interact with fans who love and cherish SF! Thanks also for adding your insights about how the regular viewer might think of CSF. I agree pretty much with everything you wrote about wanting a non-Emma centric interaction between Hook and Neal. The writers really dropped the ball on that one in my estimation.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 8, 2014 at 3:36 pm #235898
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    ’ve been lurking in this thread a little while and just wanted to tell you all thank you for posting such pretty Swanfire things and thoughts!

    Welcome!!! All newbies get cookies and hot coocca with cinnamon!

    Just wanted to let you all know that until episode 5 (the CS kiss), I didn’t realize there was a love triangle- just thought that Emma and Neal NEEDED to find each other in Neverland and how tragic it was that she thought he was still dead. To me, I always thought Emma and Neal were endgame but can’t be together yet because… well most shows don’t put their endgame couple together without a few obstacles

    I agree! I think most casual viewers would be very shocked at what of this fandom thinks about the show.

    I did want to say that I am a big fan of Hook and wished they had given him a better storyline in the first part of season 3. Would still love to see the deal he made with Pan to get out of Neverland and how he and Bae kept in contact after he let the lost boys take Bae from the Jolly Roger… I mean, how did he know where Bea’s cave was? Did they ever reconcile about Milah? After rewatching the season 2 finally, it was pretty clear to me that the reason Hook went to Neverland with Emma and the gang was because he felt he needed to help Bae’s son because of some kind of father-like relationship with Bea and regret that he let the lost boys take Bae in the first place. I would love to see some real Neal and Hook interaction this second half of the season because I just love both these characters.

    Yes to all of this! They’ve reduced Captain Hook to nothing more than a love interest which is just sad. He was a very intriguing character in S2 but he’s so one note right now…eh.

    And if I get more CaptainFire interactions that don’t involve Emma…!

    Sorry this is so long… turns out I’ve had a lot of thoughts about OUAT I needed to write down

    Fear not. We’re a ship full of ramblers

    After watching the episode again I noticed that as Regina was telling Emma about escaping the curse and Snow is telling her that she has touched the lives of everyone there is a brief shot of Neal and his face as he is registering that Emma and Henry are leaving him. To me, there seems like panic in his eyes about losing the two people he loves most, but you can almost tell he is formulating some sort of plan right there to see them again.

    🙁 Poor poor poor sad Nealfire

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 8, 2014 at 5:17 pm #235904
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/statuses/421036352378273792

    RG posted this tweet from MRJ in another thread, but I’m re-posting it here for obvious SF reasons! Jennifer Morrison and MRJ are most likely filming scenes together again for 3×15! You know what that means? The glorious SF reunion!

    https://twitter.com/jenmorrisonlive/status/421038201638121472/photo/1

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/421038219732324352/photo/1

    I love that some of the first official filming spoilers we get after the holiday break are of SF! 🙂

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 8, 2014 at 6:46 pm #235911
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    It’s very possible that I was doing some sort of magnificent happy dance when I saw that tweet and the pics of the two

    I personally think the SF reunion will happen a little bit sooner than 315 but not too soon because I really am starting to think that Neal is on the gurney. HOWEVER. If Rumbelle and SF reunite int he same episode, I might die.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 8, 2014 at 7:01 pm #235914
    ems14
    Participant

    I was so excited to see those pics and tweets – how cute are the pair of them 🙂

    January 8, 2014 at 8:41 pm #235922
    kfchimera
    Participant

    Welcome Melbell and Di!

    Don’t ever worry about saying a lot or a little, because ultimately that’s what a ship thread lets us do.  Sometimes we’ll pour forth a poetic essay or a mini-story, other times its cute graphics or posters or videos, and other times it’s just a simple reply of “THIS.”   Or “PREACH.”   When a story gets you excited in some way, it’s nice to be able to discuss it with people who more or less get why!

    I have been trying all day to write various things and getting not quite enough time to complete my thoughts.  It’s funny how sometimes I’ll be offline thinking and doing something, then come back and see a post that just says exactly what I was feeling or thinking!

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    January 8, 2014 at 9:31 pm #235929
    WickedRegal
    Participant

    WELCOME MELBEL…We’re So Happy For You To Join Our Podcast!!! We Look Forward To Hearing Your Theories And Thoughts About Once!

    But All I have to say about MRJ is…my god…

    image

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    January 8, 2014 at 10:08 pm #235932
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    WELCOME MELBEL…We’re So Happy For You To Join Our Podcast!!! We Look Forward To Hearing Your Theories And Thoughts About Once! But All I have to say about MRJ is…my god… image

    Seconded!

    Love that GIF

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 8, 2014 at 10:20 pm #235937
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    This is a link to reasons why Shcmacky likes Neal and considers him awesome. Warning: some language stuff so I just linked it instead of posting!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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