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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 10, 2014 at 9:01 pm #236252
    RumplesGirl
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    Now I agree it might have been nice to hear more from Neal about such a huge betrayal, perhaps in a scene with Rumple about why he cannot trust him. Maybe they could have talked about Rumple having killed Milah, as they find Tamara’s body and Neal could have said he still didn’t want her to die, even if he hated the things she’d done. That could have been an interesting moment to show up their different instinctive reactions to betrayals. I’d have also liked it to lead into some discussion about Hook having run off with Milah and now Neals sort of facing the same worry. Then again, in the middle of rescuing Henry, on the run from Pan probably not the time they’d have discussed it anyway. I feel like its never going to really get addressed though since when the story resumes a year has passed. There’ll be all these new things happening and like Graham’s death, or Belle’s incarceration it just won’t be relevant to the relationship between the characters in the face of new stresses.

    I agree that it would have been nice–for both sides of the Triangle of Doom–to hear Neal talk about Tamara, A and E clearly want everyone to forget they existed. It’s not really a character flaw with Neal so much as A and E recognize that GOAT were incredibly unpopular and that their show lost a lot of traction because of it. So bringing it back up isn’t good for them overall. Which means Tamara and Neal will forever be a sticky issue of contention for the fandom.

    Slurpeez: those pics are great!

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 10, 2014 at 9:25 pm #236257
    RumplesGirl
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    Emma and her Neal

    Neal and his Emma

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    January 11, 2014 at 12:03 am #236291
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    That is just heartbreaking! If that’s the way the writers characterized his point of view, it explains so much about his level of guilt over leaving Emma. Some people think the way he acted guilty implied he’d done things with ill intent, but that letter shows how Neal is the type to feel guilt over not trying hard enough even in a situation not his fault. He internalizes and feels responsible for things even when he’s not–but also he recognizes when he messes up (and he has messed up certain things, he’s no plaster saint).

    Yes, so sad! It’s part of why I feel all defensive when people talk smack about Neal, because really, just take a moment and think about where this guy is coming from in life, and you’ll see that his actions in present day make sense.

    Now I agree it might have been nice to hear more from Neal about such a huge betrayal, perhaps in a scene with Rumple about why he cannot trust him. Maybe they could have talked about Rumple having killed Milah, as they find Tamara’s body and Neal could have said he still didn’t want her to die, even if he hated the things she’d done. That could have been an interesting moment to show up their different instinctive reactions to betrayals. I’d have also liked it to lead into some discussion about Hook having run off with Milah and now Neals sort of facing the same worry. Then again, in the middle of rescuing Henry, on the run from Pan probably not the time they’d have discussed it anyway.

    I feel like its never going to really get addressed though since when the story resumes a year has passed. There’ll be all these new things happening and like Graham’s death, or Belle’s incarceration it just won’t be relevant to the relationship between the characters in the face of new stresses.

    Agreed on all counts. Like RG said, they want to put Tamara in the past, though. Feels like they also want to officially put Milah in the past too. Tamara who? Milah who? Lookit the pretty love triangle!!1!!!11! This show would benefit from webisodes, just a couple of minutes here and there to address some of the character moments that they can’t squeeze into the actual show. Then things like this could still be addressed.

    January 11, 2014 at 7:52 am #236320
    RumplesGirl
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    Yes, so sad! It’s part of why I feel all defensive when people talk smack about Neal, because really, just take a moment and think about where this guy is coming from in life, and you’ll see that his actions in present day make sense.

    Poor Neal. He just needs a giant SwanFire/FireThief hug. I volunteer

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 8:04 am #236323
    RumplesGirl
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    Pain!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 8:07 am #236325
    RumplesGirl
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    More pain!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 8:09 am #236326
    RumplesGirl
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    Still more!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 9:35 am #236332
    RumplesGirl
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    X

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 9:38 am #236333
    RumplesGirl
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    X

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 11, 2014 at 9:40 am #236334
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    X

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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