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*applause!* *joy* *cookies!* So this has probably been pointed out before but I don’t think I’ve noticed until now. Tonight I rewatched SSTR and right after Nealfire falls through the portal into the EF, and Emma collapses on the floor, the “true love” motif from season one, right before Emma kisses Henry back to life, starts to play. Just for a few moments, but it’s there. My mouth dropped. I really don’t know if I’ve ever noticed.
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You mean this true love theme? So beautiful! Someone needs to make a fan-video of Emma, Neal and Henry with that theme song:
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It starts right around 2:10 until the end of the scene. It’s definitely the same song, maybe slightly altered in the key, but it’s the same.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"It starts right around 2:10 until the end of the scene. It’s definitely the same song, maybe slightly altered in the key, but it’s the same.
If Mark Isham’s theme of “True Love” isn’t proof that Emma and Neal have true love, then I don’t know what is.
A really obvious parallel just occurred to me that hand’t before. Emma had to return to the EF to see her parents’ castle and to face her parents letting her go. Also, Neal had to return this season to see his dad’s castle and face his dad letting him go. Both Emma and Neal are facing their pasts before they can come together in the future.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
What does the Emma and Neal theme sound like? I thought someone said it was similar or had elements alike to the True Love one. I’m not good enough distinguishing things like that.
I think the way Emma collapsed on the floor in that scene says a lot. She wanted to go with him, but knew she had to stay for Henry. That interview made me happy, because shipping aside, I want Neal to gain back his confidence and bravery, and I can’t wait to hear some jokes about the characters versus the movies. I hope the season does address some of his point of view about what happened after he left Emma as it feels like there’s a lot of misunderstanding of why /how/when things went down.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
What does the Emma and Neal theme sound like? I thought someone said it was similar or had elements alike to the True Love one. I’m not good enough distinguishing things like that.
the Emma and Neal theme is different from the TL theme, it’s called “Tallahassee” though it has similar elements. What’s playing right after Neal drops through is just simply the “True Love” theme that plays as Emma walks into the hospital and kisses Henry to awaken him from the Curse.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Y’all are SO good at saying how I’m feeling here! I’ve really enjoyed reading all your comments today and holy crap do I need a cookie! *sniff sniff* 😉
BTW-Anyone else want to see Neal take a trip to the Snowing castle while he’s in the EF and see Emma’s nursery and the life she lost when his father started the whole curse mess? I kind of want to see that happen but I also think that has the potential to do me in emotionally, LOL 😆
#MoreBOOMLessGloomHere’s a little bit from a Ginny interview that was posted today…
Access: Snow is watching her own daughter go through the pain of not having her child, with Henry having been kidnapped and taken to Neverland. Will this bring them closer together or farther apart as they try to get him back?
Ginnifer: It’s absolutely going to force them to address the relationship, which is something that Jennifer Morrison and I had been begging to do because we love that last season, our adventures were epic, but we felt like every time we came close to really [analyzing] this dynamic between them… we would be interrupted somehow. But guess what? When you’re trapped on a boat and going to Neverland and there’s only like five of you or six of you, you get to address things. I love where the writers have taken these characters and they’re really going to dive into this dynamic, what’s between them and all the guilt and the abandonment issues and blame and sense of hopelessness and helplessness and we’re really going to get to analyze all of that.
Emma’s gonna be processing all of those issues with her parents, and inevitably that will involve processing the same issues she has with Neal – having someone leave her because of her destiny. If she’s been hashing all that out with her parents and is starting to accept and understand it properly, that bodes well for her doing the same with Neal when he shows up. Not that I think she’ll see him and instantly be all, “Bygones,” but if she’s gonna reconcile with her parents, she’ll have to reconcile with Neal as well, because the abandonments are so similar.
Y’all are SO good at saying how I’m feeling here! I’ve really enjoyed reading all your comments today and holy crap do I need a cookie! *sniff sniff* 😉
Bug shaped cookies for everyone!!
BTW-Anyone else want to see Neal take a trip to the Snowing castle while he’s in the EF and see Emma’s nursery and the life she lost when his father started the whole curse mess? I kind of want to see that happen but I also think that has the potential to do me in emotionally, LOL 😆
I dunno if he’d have the same overly emotional experience there that Snow and Emma did. I think that him finding all his old clothes that his father kept will be his version of that scene. I have wondered for some time if he might use some more wardrobe ashes to make his own portal though, and if so, he would end up in the nursery.
Here’s a little bit from a Ginny interview that was posted today…
I love where the writers have taken these characters and they’re really going to dive into this dynamic, what’s between them and all the guilt and the abandonment issues and blame and sense of hopelessness and helplessness and we’re really going to get to analyze all of that.
Emma’s gonna be processing all of those issues with her parents, and inevitably that will involve processing the same issues she has with Neal – having someone leave her because of her destiny. If she’s been hashing all that out with her parents and is starting to accept and understand it properly, that bodes well for her doing the same with Neal when he shows up. Not that I think she’ll see him and instantly be all, “Bygones,” but if she’s gonna reconcile with her parents, she’ll have to reconcile with Neal as well, because the abandonments are so similar.
Yes, I agree! Both Neal and Emma need to work out their own abandonment issues individually before fully reconciling in a romantic way. We started to see Emma work through some of her issues with her parents in S2 and we’re going to see that continue in a major way in S3. I read in an interview with Jennifer Morrison that she believes Emma first had to work on forgiving her parents and building a healthy relationship with them and Henry before she could be open to the possibility of romance.
You obviously have your emotional hands full, but is there a chance Emma’s getting a love interest this season?
Jennifer Morrison: Yeah, I mean that’s something I really want to have happen this season for sure. Season 1 for Emma was really about falling in love with Henry and Season 2 is now her reconciling with her parents in some way and opening herself to the possibility of romantic love. That’s a whole new level of adventure for her of course. I feel like it makes sense, in real life we have to deal with our own issues of childhood or our parents and when we put those things in perspective that’s when we become capable of opening ourselves to healthy relationships in our own lives. So I think it makes sense, especially since we’re dealing with fairy-tale-themed situations that they would sort of have those two things coinciding in Emma’s life.
By the end of S2, she was calling Snow and David “Mom and Dad” and letting down her walls to tell Neal she loves him and needs him. That’s progress. Now that Emma has made a few inroads into building family relationships with Henry, Snow, and David, she will be more receptive to romance in the future. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Neal is on a similar journey as Emma is in dealing with his own abandonment issues. I predict there will be some intense, emotional scenes between Neal and Rumple scenes in S3.
This will be a year for her [Emma] to face her past head-on, I think.” Barbara Barnett
I think this is extremely important since so much of Emma’s past is false. Or rather, she was operating under false information. She grew up her entire life thinking her parents tossed her away like trash. That obviously wasn’t true but she still went 28 years thinking this. How does she reconcile that information with what she’s lived through?
And the same goes for Neal. She spent nearly 12 years thinking that she was used by a guy she had fallen madly in love with. She knows the truth now but she still went 12 years thinking this. How does she mesh those two together?
Emma has a lot of hurt and anger and betrayal towards both her parents and Neal. And she needs to find a way to get over that hurt and betrayal and anger towards them as well as start a new relationship with all three of them. David isn’t a deadbeat dad (nor a clueless married idiot in love with another woman), Snow didn’t throw her baby away like trash (or a meek school teacher), and Neal didn’t use a young girl in love. She needs to get to know all three of these people all over again. And any resentment she holds towards them for what they did to her, she’s going to have to decide whether to hold onto it or honestly let it go and start fresh.
Like I’ve said before, Emma first must work on forgiving her parents and building a healthy fresh start with them, and she already has. The same goes for Neal. She has already forgiven him in 2×21. There is going to be a lot of working out issues and trying to understand her parents’ and Neal’s motives for letting her be alone. Emma now sees that their motives weren’t cruel or hardhearted. They did it to give Emma her best shot. And Emma knows that intellectually. She’s going to have to accept that emotionally, as well.
I also think we’re going to see Neal coming to terms more with his father as he travels through the EF, a place to which he never wanted to return, and visits his father’s Dark Castle. I predict he’ll find his father’s old walking stick and maybe some of his own old clothes from his childhood. Neal is also going to use magic to find out about Henry and Emma being in NL, and so he’s going to fight to get to them. I also expect we’ll see Neal going up against his old nemesis, Peter Pan, to help save his dad. So, a lot has to happen, both for Neal and Emma, in S3 before there can be any sort of full romantic relationship. But I do think we’ll see Neal end up in present-day NL, and I think he and Emma are going to work as partners and parents to help save Henry together. So, I think the groundwork for rebuilding trusting a relationship based on mutual trust, support and love for each other and Henry is going to lead to them eventually becoming more than just friends in the future. While Emma may put a relationship on hold with Neal while she tries something new with Hook, I believe Neal will always be waiting in the wing for her. And she isn’t just going to be able to burry her feelings for him forever. Emma never stopped loving Neal, and in S3 I believe that Neal really will fight like he!! to get back to her and then to win her heart again.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Just saw the Emma S3 poster. Here are somethings.
Lost Girl. Who was a Lost Boy? Neal
Trying to find their way home? Who is also trying to find their way home? Neal.
What is she carrying on her back? Neal’s Sword. Just like she wore her swan pendant for 10 years apart.
<3 Swanfire <3
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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