Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[heatherc1275]

So I came up with some random SwanFire thoughts this morning but because I was busy most of the day, I’m only just now getting here to type them all out. Bare with me if I start to ramble and not make much sense because this has been building up since this morning, LOL 😆

Anyway, at church today we were talking about love and one of the big questions that was asked was, “How do you know that you’re loved?” They ran this adorable video of some kids trying to answer questions about love (one kid said that when you love someone you do this thing that he’ll spell out for us…K I S S….and then he proceeded to crack up for the rest of the interview, LOL) and then the congregation was asked that other question so a few people answered by talking about the actions that people sometimes take to show that they love someone. They weren’t always fancy things, one lady said her hubby goes out and starts her car for her on cold days, but they were things from the heart and they mattered to the other person. It was during this moment that my thoughts went to SwanFire and how many of Neal  actions seem to have shown how much he still loves her without having to say anything. Here’s a few of the ones I came up with and feel free to add more! 😉

Neal:
*Came back to protect her from his father’s anger after finding out about her deal with Rumple knowing she was going to break it for him
*Dropped everything and came to Storybrooke with them to not only save his father’s life but to be there for Henry
*Offered to take Henry to NYC for a while so Emma wouldn’t have to worry about him with Cora and Hook running around Storybrooke
*Spent time with Henry without being asked by Emma
*Tried not to hurt Emma by keeping quiet about Tamara until he absolutely had to tell Emma about her (and was pretty considerate about Emma’s feelings while they were all in Storybrooke IMO)
*Had Emma’s back when they were in the cannery even though he didn’t believe that Tamara was bad at the time
*Saved her from falling into the portal when she was hanging on the pipe
*Let go of her hand and feel through that same portal just to make sure Henry didn’t lose both of them
*Used magic to locate Emma in Neverland so he could help her save Henry even though he hates what magic does to people
*Jumped out the window to ride the shadow into Neverland…a place that wasn’t pleasant for him after spending hundreds of years there when he was younger
*Worked with his father to beat Pan and save Henry first before going to find Emma (put their child first because he knew Emma would be doing the same thing)
*Didn’t judge or get angry over Emma’s Echo Cave confession…instead we got the Epic Hug and his promise to always fight for her
*Made sure Rumple wouldn’t make the Charmings or Emma owe Rumple anything for the elixir that cured David’s illness
*Prevented Rumple from keeping Pandora’s Box until absolutely necessary to protect everyone from him
*Went to the Dark Hallow to help capture the shadow and after acting like a 12 year old boy with Hook over a lighter, was the only one of the two to apologize to Emma and agree that Henry needed to come first
*Rowed the others to the island to confront Pan (SwanFireRegalStiltskin family for the win!)
*Rushed over to help Emma when the barrier threw her backwards
*Helped set off the canon with Emma so the shadow would take them all home
*Didn’t pressure Emma into it but offered up a time together for them to talk with one another and said that if she didn’t want to meet him, he would quit bugging her (stupid fairy ‘death’…:()
*Gave Emma & Henry hope before they left town while everyone else was saying goodbye (and held in his own pain in so they wouldn’t see it)

I’ve probably missed a few things but that’s an awful lot of actions Neal has done to help Emma since she came back into his life  so that sure seems like an awful lot of love to me or at least a man who is worthy of and deserving of a second chance. 🙂

#HopeforSwanFire

[RumplesGirl]

’ve probably missed a few things but that’s an awful lot of actions Neal has done to help Emma since she came back into his life so that sure seems like an awful lot of love to me or at least a man who is worthy of and deserving of a second chance. 🙂

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That was such a great post.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

There’s a new TVGuide spoiler. Sadly, there weren’t any questions about Neal (totally biased) but there was an interesting one about Hook.

Why was it Hook that came to Emma and Henry’s home in New York City?
Adam Horowitz: That is an excellent question. Why and how?
Edward Kitsis: What’s he doing back? What the hell is going on?
Horowitz: We’re answering your question with more questions. It’s not why Hook, but how Hook and when Hook? What does it mean? That’s something that we get to, again, pretty quickly.

So we’re supposed to focus on the how and the when but not the why questions. Well, why? Could it be because Hook somehow beats Neal to the punch? Is there some sort of one-person only type of magical wardrobe and Hook just makes it through before Neal can?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

So we’re supposed to focus on the how and the when but not the why questions. Well, why? Could it be because Hook somehow beats Neal to the punch? Is there some sort of one-person only type of magical wardrobe and Hook just makes it through before Neal can?

What I took from that is that the “why” is obvious: Emma’s family is in danger and someone needs to get Emma. The bigger question is WHY NOT someone else. And then the how did Hook get there. But the WHY Hook is in NYC is already known: everyone is in danger.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

Lovely thoughts Heather!  I agree they’ve built many moments of these two showing they care about each other.  There’s lots of little pats on the shoulder and stuff.  There’s a closeness there that hasn’t faded despite her anger and hurt, and a consideration that goes BOTH ways.  That’s what makes me ship it is that Emma shows she loves Neal too.

I agree, the why he’s there is obvious.  Her family is in danger, and why he would be willing to undertake the task is because he feels he loves her.  Yet how he got there, and when he got there (relative to the danger) is a good question.   I think we’ve already assumed the curse is already cast, but a lot of fans would be surprised that they’re going to SB not to the EF.  So Hook comes from SB to NYC.  I think he’s one of a few people who weren’t in the original curse and therefore can escape it. That might be what the fight on the horse scene is about.  Rapzunel’s hair might be able to protect the memories of someone from the new curse, but Hook takes it so that he’s the one that can escape, promising to help everyone. Neal’s being held back by Charming who’s telling him that it’ll be ok because while Hook might be piratey, he will keep his word about getting Emma to help.  Neal just has to trust that Emma will realize what went on and it isn’t worth fighting about that when they have bigger problems.  Then the curse hits or something.  So no idea if Neal is on the gurney or not–but could be he has no memories of Emma either!    I’m just going to hope that whatever the reason Neal isn’t in NYC it’s not going to be something about lack of desire to go but something practically speaking it wasn’t going to make sense.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[RumplesGirl]

I’m just going to hope that whatever the reason Neal isn’t in NYC it’s not going to be something about lack of desire to go but something practically speaking it wasn’t going to make sense.

Agreed.

And the more I think about it the more I think Neal is on the gurnery

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Ranisha Pitts]

Based on the storyline and characterization that set up with Neal who went from EF to NEverland on a shadow to get back to his family. There better be a good reason why he didn’t go to NYC. Okay here are my reasons/speculations. One reason Neal is on the gurney so he is injured and unable to go to NYC. Second Reason he couldn’t go because the curse got him first. The third reason, Hook beat him to it, through trickery he is still a pirate. The fourth one suddenly dawn on me. Perhaps Emma and Henry are not suppose to be back. Perhaps WWW manipulate Hooks obsessive love/desire for Emma that she used this as a trick to lure Emma and Henry back for reason we don’t know. What if Neal found out about her intentions and tried to stop Hook and got hurt in the process. The fourth reason and the one I will be disappointed with the most is the whole he was to scared face her knowing that Emma thinks he sent her to jail. The reasoning is it makes no sense based on the character growth of Neal. He is aware that Emma still loves him, so there will be some yelling, some sass, but like the lets talk over drinks Emma would eventually follow him to wherever. Because her heart wants answers, and she loves him. Henry will probably also want to go because thats his Dad and he wants to know answers as well. So Neal just saying that Hook is the better candidate then me just doesn’t sit well. Unless Neal thinks Emma loves Hook and will be happier seeing Hook. But that doesn’t make sense in my mind because she wouldn’t know Hook

As so much speculations LOL What are your thoughts SFers on what I rambled. LOL

"I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

[RumplesGirl]

As so much speculations LOL What are your thoughts SFers on what I rambled. LOL

LOL. Alright let’s see

One reason Neal is on the gurney so he is injured and unable to go to NYC.

Ok this is my current headcanon. I think they very cleverly had Hook say “family” in 3×11 for a reason. Not parents, not mother, not father…family. Neal is part of the family as Henry’s father. So I think the WWW hurt Neal when everyone was taken back to SB (I think Hook comes from SB NOT the EF)

Second Reason he couldn’t go because the curse got him first

whatever curse sends everyone back to SB, I don’t think it works the same as Regina’s original one. I think they could all leave if they wanted. But Neal is in the hospital, Snow is pregnant and so Hook makes the most logical sense

The third reason, Hook beat him to it, through trickery he is still a pirate

while I wouldn’t put it past him, I think it might be a slap in the face to any character development he’s had.

The fourth one suddenly dawn on me. Perhaps Emma and Henry are not suppose to be back. Perhaps WWW manipulate Hooks obsessive love/desire for Emma that she used this as a trick to lure Emma and Henry back for reason we don’t know. What if Neal found out about her intentions and tried to stop Hook and got hurt in the process

That’s an interesting one.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

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I saw this this morning on Tumblr and for some reason it just gave me SF feels and it’s adorable and slightly sad and a little emotionally damaging and I decided to share.

This isn’t over

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

RumplesGirl wrote: Ok this is my current headcanon. I think they very cleverly had Hook say “family” in 3×11 for a reason. Not parents, not mother, not father…family. Neal is part of the family as Henry’s father. So I think the WWW hurt Neal when everyone was taken back to SB (I think Hook comes from SB NOT the EF)

In 3×11, Hook showed up on Emma’s doorstep and said, “Your family is in danger” which could include her parents and Neal. However in the promo for 3×12, Hook says to Emma, “Your parents are in danger.” Does that mean only Emma’s parents are in danger? Or does Hook just conveniently omit Neal from the equation, because he wants Emma’s attention to be on himself rather than on Neal?

RumplesGirl wrote: whatever curse sends everyone back to SB, I don’t think it works the same as Regina’s original one. I think they could all leave if they wanted. But Neal is in the hospital, Snow is pregnant and so Hook makes the most logical sense

I’m of the opinion that the WWW unleashes a new curse that sends everyone in the EF back to SB. Then, Hook leaves SB for Emma to bring her back to the town. I’m not so sure that just anybody could leave. I sorta wonder if Hook and Neal are able to come and go as they please, since neither ever had fake memories. However, the WWW might’ve targeted Neal, knowing him to be Emma’s true love, either because she doesn’t want Emma to be awakened by Neal’s TLK or because the WWW want to lure Emma to SB to save Neal.

RumplesGirl wrote: while I wouldn’t put it past him, I think it might be a slap in the face to any character development he’s had.

See, I question just how much character development Hook has really made. Real character growth would really be stepping back from Emma so that his son figure, Neal, could have a chance at happiness. Real growth would be Hook realizing he helped destroy Neal’s family when Hook ran off with Milha and now doing right by helping Neal and Emma reunite. Instead, in 3×10 Hook hypocritically accused Neal of leaving Emma when Hook himself has left Emma twice to die. Hook claimed he was stepping back from his pursuit of Emma for the sake of Henry, but really, it was just to see Neal fail miserably at wooing Emma. Then Hook nursed his “sacrifice”of his pursuit of Emma by making a drunken pass at another woman, and then allowing Emma to assume the worst to try and arouse her jealousy. Then, instead of really stepping back from his pursuit of Emma, he’s the one standing at her doorstep at the end of 3×11. Hook still puts his own interests first, ahead of considering the happiness of his so-called son figure. He doesn’t wish Neal happy; he wishes him to be rejected and scorned by Emma.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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