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See, I question just how much character development Hook has really made. He still hypocritically accused Neal of leaving Emma when Hook himself has left Emma twice to die. Hook claimed he was stepping back from his pursuit of Emma for the sake of Henry, but real it was just to see Neal fail miserably at wooing Emma. Then Hook nursed his “sacrifice”of his pursuit of Emma by making a drunken pass at another woman, and then allowing Emma to assume the worst to try and arouse her jealousy. Then, instead of really stepping back from his pursuit of Emma, he’s the one standing at her doorstep at the end of 3×11. Hook still puts his own interests first, ahead of considering the happiness of his so-called son figure. He doesn’t wish Neal happy; he wishes him to be rejected and scorned by Emma.
Good point. I think we need to see what happened in that intervening year, though. I think A and E are of the opinion that all the villains–Regina, Rumple and Hook–are basically no longer villains. They all redeemed themselves and while I’m not sure I agree (what is redemption without apology) I think A and E want to place the story elsewhere.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Very similar thoughts to you Ranisha! That list is what I think too.
I also do not want Neal reverting to self-doubt, but Neal could show hesitancy because he thinks Emma would not be happy to see him with her memories reset. That could lead into talking about why he had to leave in the first place with Snow and Charming. He could say that she would never have believed him about magic and curses when they were together and she trusted him, so how was she going to believe the man she thinks set up her up years later? So at the end David and Snow would say have faith, she’ll believe you –but Hook says they can’t take the chance. So in character to him stealing the bean when he didn’t agree with their decision to go save Regina, Hook will say that Emma “made her choice” (having overheard that Emma did not go meet Neal, even though Charming is saying she was going to go). He will feel that it is not trickery then to take the potion and if Neal feel otherwise he can fight him for it, but he will not hold back and one or the other would die. Then Charming restrains Neal to say, let him go, because if he’s right, then he should and if he’s not, Emma will come back to Neal, have faith in her. I could see that playing out. The writers like to have mixed motives for their characters as it gives us fans things to be discussing, or as Jane said about writing Hook, you want their to be fans on both sides of the bleachers, for and against. So those who love Hook will say “Fighting for love, see he’s more willing to fight for Emma” and those who love Neal would say, like we did about Hook challenging Rumple for Milah “That’s underhanded, unnecessary and uncivilized, because you don’t settle things with duels to the death! “. Except Hook’s a pirate! I don’t want Neal looking cowardly though so that’s where Charming restraining him and saying Emma wouldn’t want you to do that if he’s right, and he is the one he’s chosen and if he’s wrong, she’ll find you.
Basically any situation where it’s clear that Neal still loves Emma and couldn’t or shouldn’t go, or made a sacrifice of some kind considering what he reasonably thinks Emma would want, is ok but I just hope it is not some scene that is obviously him lacking courage or conviction or you know, permanently dead. I don’t mind if he’s in a coma or under the curse. So long as his character is preserved with the growth he made, bit more confident but still having respect for others, for desiring to give Emma space, being practical about things for the good of all? That’s in character and could be reasons he didn’t go but at least we know its “good” reason.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
kfchimera wrote: Basically any situation where it’s clear that Neal still loves Emma and couldn’t or shouldn’t go, or made a sacrifice of some kind considering what he reasonably thinks Emma would want, is ok but I just hope it is not some scene that is obviously him lacking courage or conviction or you know, permanently dead. I don’t mind if he’s in a coma or under the curse. So long as his character is preserved with the growth he made, bit more confident but still having respect for others, for desiring to give Emma space, being practical about things for the good of all? That’s in character and could be reasons he didn’t go but at least we know its “good” reason.
Whatever the reason, I’m going to hope that the reason Neal isn’t at Emma’s door really is a good one, and to me, Neal being too afraid would undo all the character growth he made. In 3×3, Neal said to Mulan, “I broke her heart. I let her go so that she could break the curse, fulfill her destiny. When it was broken, I could have gone after her. I could’ve told her I loved her. But, I was afraid that she’s never forgive me, so I would up taking the easy way out, just not trying…It’s the greatest regret of my life, not one I wish upon anyone.” I think that Neal’s near-death experience in 3×1 was a real wake-up call to him and put things into perspective. Ever since, he’s been fighting to get back to Emma and to save Henry. He’ll continue to fight for Emma, just as he said he would. That is why I choose to believe Eddy Kitsis when he says there is a good reason Neal isn’t there. I think that means it’s an outside reason beyond Neal’s control that hinders his journey back to Emma.
“we promised to take care of each other”
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I agree with KFC and Slurpeez. If the “good reason” for Neal not being in NYC is that he was too scared, then it robs him of all the development he made in S3A. And it’s just not a good reason. I think it’s fairly straight forward: Neal can’t go. To Emma he’s the guy who left her. In Emma’s cursed mind, there was no “Manhattan” or “Second Star to the Right” or “Ariel” or even “Going Home.” Just “Tallahassee.” Hook is a creep in leather who tried to kiss her but she can write him off as a loon. With Neal there is history and angst and thus him showing up at her door would be the single worst idea they could possibly go with. Hook has a shot of getting Emma to hear him out because he knows her well enough to talk to her but doesn’t have the complicated history. Add in the fact that I am now like 91.8% certain that Neal is on the gurney and there you go: good reason.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I can accept various options but like RG, Slurpeez, and KFC has said. It has to be good reason. Neal just being to scared to face Emma (and his Son) will not cut it for me. It simply will destroy the character growth and life lesson that Neal has obtain. And it will question my hope in the show if they were to go that route.
I still want that swan keychain. I wonder if Neal is wearing it?
I thought of it would be so cool if he slipped in her pocket during their hug scene. But I guess that didn’t happen. I really miss that keychain. Its like the chip cup when it was broken."I will be kind but I will speak my mind."
Neal just being to scared to face Emma (and his Son) will not cut it for me.
totally agree. It’s not just Emma, it’s his son. Neal told Henry (who was Pan at the time) that no matter what, he has a father. Whatever the endgame is, that doesn’t change.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Friendly reminder: Emma and Neal saying they love each other is canon.
Extra friendly reminder: They have said it to each other multiple times.Friendly reminder: Emma and Neal saying they love each other is canon.
Extra friendly reminder: They have said it to each other multiple times.Super extra friendly reminder: Hook and Emma have never said the ILY.
Jumbo sized Extra friendly reminder: Emma said (twice) the kiss meant nothing
In other news: I just started watching Terriers. MRJ is adorable.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"On the 20th day of January, the SFer’s gave to RG:
20 Knitting sessions with Granny
19 Girl’s nights with Belle and Snow
18 Special SwanFire moments
17 Glasses of Regina’s homemade apple cider
16 Bouquets of flowers hand delivered by Rumple wearing whatever you want him in
15 Sleepovers with Red (That don’t occur during her time of the month)
14 Trips to the pub with Tinkerbell
13 Bags of Pixie Dust
12 Archery lessons from Robin Hood
11 Loyal Lost Boys
10 Plates of food from Granny’s
9 Objects Ariel “borrowed”
8 Sneaky fairies
7 Dwarves a drinking
6 Anton sized mugs of Hot Chocolate with Cinnamon served by Regina
5 RumBelle kisses
4 Times Neal makes puppy eyes
3 Snowing saying “I will find you”
2 Henry hugs
and Emma kicking Hook in the balls!All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of Felix
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