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That’s a nice theory. It could be the start of the heroic arc that allows Hook to sacrifice himself for Neal and/or Henry. (Again with the caveat that I don’t actually want Hook to die.)
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Not what I wished to see right before going to bed… wish I could hop on over to the SF chatroom but too late for that…
He was just on set yesterday so I won’t let myself get too worried. But seeing that its like the spoiler hit me all over again. It’s sad period.
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On a different note, I’m finally working on an SF vid I’ve wanted to make since I heard this song the first time. Overboard by Manafest. <3
Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
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Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
On a different note, I’m finally working on an SF vid I’ve wanted to make since I heard this song the first time. Overboard by Manafest. <3[/quote]
Yay!
I'm excited to see your video!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Schmacky, I often read your stuff on tumblr and have the urge to flail my arms screeching PREACH, and your long post from several pages back is no exception. The online fandom is such a tiny representation of the entire viewing audience, and it’s the viewing audience at large that dictates the ratings, so changing their story just to placate a particular bunch of online fans would be rather stupid, and they might not be perfect, but they know the business they’re in pretty well. Neal’s character has been a vital part of the story from day one, seriously, we’d have no show if Rumple didn’t need to find his son. Boyfriend is majorly important. They’ve said that they considered adapting Neal’s story because so many people online had guessed who he was, but ultimately made the decision to stick with their original vision for him. If that’s not evidence that online fandom won’t sway them from things they have set in stone, then I dunno what is. Considering how central the character of Nealfire is to the whole point of the show, I believe that from day one, one of the things they had set in stone was that that long suffering kid was gonna grow up and get his happy ending one day, and they constructed a poetic (Adam’s word) love story for him. For all the in-show reasons we can argue and interpret, I think that basic fact about how the show was conceived and constructed is one of the most telling things that SF is endgame.
As for the new spoilers about who’s shooting, even if it IS Hook and Henry shooting a scene alone, with no one else around…so what? Like some others have said, there are so many reasons that such a scene could eventuate. And let’s not forget that Henry is the most hardcore SF shipper going. Hook already knows he wants his parents back together, but it’s not like he’s spent any time with the kid to really get to know him or how deeply he feels on the matter. For all we know, this scene could end up being similar to the scene with Hook and Bae on the boat, only this time it’s Henry being upset about Hook wanting to keep HIS parents apart, and maybe the whole sense of de ja vu would be a slap in the face to Hook that he’s doing the same thing all over again, and he never got to repair his relationship with Bae, and that’s eaten away at him for forever, so does he really want history to repeat with Henry? If Henry feels this deeply about it, then there’d always be tension between them, even if he did end up with Emma, and does he want to put another kid through that sort of upset? And maybe the reality check from Henry is what will lead to Hook sacrificing his life to save Neal. We just dunno. Maybe it won’t be anything like what I’ve just speculated, but even if not, it could still be so many other things. And it’s one scene out of an entire ep, so it might not even end up being anything incredibly significant.
Every single photo that leaks out by VanCity or Canadagraphs or random Joe Schmoe from the streets is going to drive everyone crazy until we actually start seeing the show again and have a better idea of where S3 part B is going, so my advice to everyone? Take a chill pill, BREATHE, and don’t let your imagination go crazy over one or two random things you may or may not see. We don’t know the context of anything right now so any photos that leak out mean absolutely NOTHING to us until we hear dialogue and know the actual context of the scene. I refuse to get caught up in random panic over one random tool who posts something about the show on Twitter. Seriously, how are people still allowed to be around the set with all these leaks?! It’s like these folks live to spoil things and ruin our enjoyment of the show by making assumptions, teasing us with stuff they can’t share, pointing out who is or isn’t there (I’m convinced now that people doing this all have agendas because that’s how my brain works and hey, it gives them attention which is probably what they want), and just being annoying in general. It wouldn’t bother me as much if it was just fans (the fans normally post a pic or two if they get one with one of the actors) but this is mostly coming from the attention seeking papparazzi type of people or people who claim to work for the show and that’s what drives me crazy. Just go away for a while and leave us alone. They’re making this hiatus worse IMO. 🙁
/end rant (Sorry you guys got the brunt of this…I’m just over the photo drama)
#MoreBOOMLessGloomI agree with Phee and Heather.
1) It could be anything. Context is everything and if this show is callus enough to kill Neal and have HOOK tell Henry…I think I need to reconsider my dedication
2) Is it March yet? Cause Heather is right. EVERY spoiler we get now is going to drive us all batty.
Less batty. More pretty.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"heather wrote: Proof of what? Hook could have kidnapped Henry, Henry could have run away and only Hook spotted him as he was leaving, Hook & Henry could be talking about Neverland, Henry may have wanted to talk to him to tell him to stay away from Emma…there are a ton of reasons why they could be filming together but remember, MRJ was JUST filming yesterday. No reason to panic although it’s sure giving a person I don’t particular care for in the chat room a reason to start up trouble…reason #1 why I don’t like going in chat too often anymore.
Good point. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, right? We don’t have any proof about Neal’s absence to be able to conduce anything. There could be a lot of plausible scenarios why Henry and Hook would be filming alone at night, some of them positive for Hook and some of them not-so-positive. We just don’t *know* anything except for the fact that Jared and Colin had a night-shoot. What’s missing is context. Anything beyond that point is going to be conjecture until the show airs.
molly wrote: Henry sees Hook doing something that might appear shady to his active imagination and confronts Hook.
That could be. We could concoct a “happy” scenario in which Hook the hero has found a runaway Henry or we could plan a grim scenario in which Hook has sinister plans for the boy. For all we know, the WWW shape-shifted into Hook! We just have no real clue.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I don’t want Emma to lose those original memories either but in their defense, she actually hasn’t lost those memories at all….they’re just suppressed by the new ones Regina planted so Tallahassee will still be important for her whenever she gets her memory back.
I’m interested to see how the fake memories will mesh with her real life once she gets her memory back. Knowing what it feels like to have that sense of family, could it make her want Neal as a part of that even more? She had a version of Tallahassee with Henry with all the fake memories, plus the one year they did actually spend together, and could that rekindle her original recipe Tallahassee dream and give her new hope that it’s actually possible.
My theory is that the bad things if Pan was tracking Neal to track Emma to track the heart of the truest believer through some sort of blood magic is perhaps Emma and Neal would have been Killed and the Darling boys would have taken baby Henry. We all know that Darling boys knew of Henry because they were going to adopt the child in Save Henry.
Yes, I think Emma’s death could have been one of the potential “terrible things” that could have happened. I’ve figured that Pan had a hand in Emma being in jail for the purpose of getting that baby isolated, then he sent the Darlings to adopt him, and it was all meant to be easy. If Henry were with Emma and Neal, they’d have protected him, making it hard for Pan to get to him, not impossible like when Henry was in SB though, because as long as Emma and Neal could be disposed of, Pan could still get Henry. Knowing what we do of Pan, knowing that the Darlings were armed, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that Pan would have told them to kill Emma and Neal if necessary, to get Henry. So Henry ends up an orphan in Pan’s clutches with no one to rescue him, Emma and Neal end up dead, John and Michael end up murderers (having killed someone they once considered a brother for bonus angst), and Emma’s death breaks the Curse, but her parents can never find her, and Rumple can never find Bae, which means the whole Curse and all the suffering people went through because of it was all for nothing. I’d say that’s a decent amount of “terrible things” that could have happened if Neal and Emma had stayed together.
So here is a question. Was August being guided by the side of good or for the side of bad. I can see Blue wanting Emma to go jail to ensure that Henry would be safely tuck away in SB, the town that doesn’t exist in a land without magic. I can see Pan wanted Emma to go to jail, perhaps told the Darling boys to tip the cops off, so in the long run they can adopt the child but still Mr. Gold beat them to it. Who was providing August with his info, because I have the inclination that August was not working by himself that night. Questions, Questions, Questions.
I used to think that the “little fairy” August mentioned was Blue, but then we were told she didn’t have her memories, so then I thought it was Tink, but now it seems like she was legit trapped in NL, so I dunno about that any more either. I guess they could still work around that, maybe she WAS allowed to leave that one time, but there was something that forced her to return to NL, and completing that mission for Pan is why they weren’t outright enemies in NL and he let her live and roam freely.
I used to think that the “little fairy” August mentioned was Blue, but then we were told she didn’t have her memories, so then I thought it was Tink, but now it seems like she was legit trapped in NL, so I dunno about that any more either. I guess they could still work around that, maybe she WAS allowed to leave that one time, but there was something that forced her to return to NL, and completing that mission for Pan is why they weren’t outright enemies in NL and he let her live and roam freely.
The fairy who told August could be the Black Fairy, who was hereunto unmentioned until 3×11. I think the Black Fairy (who could be the WWW) might be the REAL shady fairy of our tale. Although I’ll forever think the Blue Fairy is shady. It’s just too much fun to let go of that idea completely.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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