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January 23, 2014 at 10:45 pm #240077
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KeymasterBEST GIF EVER
agreed.
WOW. Luna is spot on!
Great pics Lisa
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 23, 2014 at 10:51 pm #240079heatherc1275
ParticipantSo the awesome Emma GIF below may or may not be how I feel about the OUAT fandom in general right now, LOL 😉


#MoreBOOMLessGloomJanuary 23, 2014 at 10:54 pm #240080heatherc1275
ParticipantI didn’t see this one posted yet…. 😀

http://adastiltskin.tumblr.com/post/74219598264

#MoreBOOMLessGloomJanuary 23, 2014 at 11:02 pm #240082Slurpeez
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"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
January 23, 2014 at 11:06 pm #240083RumplesGirl
KeymasterI didn’t see this one posted yet….
http://adastiltskin.tumblr.com/post/74219598264 LOVE this one!!!!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 23, 2014 at 11:07 pm #240085Slurpeez
Participant"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
January 23, 2014 at 11:08 pm #240086Slurpeez
Participant"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
January 23, 2014 at 11:14 pm #240089kfchimera
ParticipantThat was a great post, and thanks for sharing it Heather!
I have to agree with what she said. There’s a LOT of story to tell for Neal, mostly because the writers left a lot of emotional spaces and back story unexplored. He may not be a famous archetype character, but he can be given plenty of snappy dialog and pull of serious emotional scenes. Ultimately it is up to the writers to balance their show how they see fit, but killing off this great character after just killing him off? Very redundant. I can’t think of a proper story reason that resonates with the themes of the last season to do it. What themes did we have? First, we had a theme of belief, which was a general sort of thing that there is strong magic in hoping for things, combined with the idea of a leap of faith. Sometimes, you have to believe without proof and just go for it. You can’t wait for proof or for it to be safe. Second we had a theme of forgiveness and working together. The Jr6 +Neal put aside their differences to Save Henry. Third we had a theme of second chances. It wasn’t just Neal looking for his, we saw Mulan choosing not to go for hers, Ariel and Eric getting theirs, and Rumple and Neal reuiniting, Neal reuniting with Wendy and the Darling Brothers, briefly, Blue coming back, Tink getting her wings. So in some ways, one could say he had his second chance, but did he really? Rumple just said to Neal he could have happiness, just not with him. Then we saw what Neal considered his happiness get put on the other side of the magical universe AGAIN. He cannot catch a break except heartbreak, but he’s been the eternal optimist. To take that goodnatured character and chuck him with the trash would totally be in keeping with what this show does I suppose. He’d join Graham at least as someone who totally deserved better. The thing is, we went through that once already too. So I feel in terms of emotional upheaval, that there’s just so little to gain from the audience by killing him off. I’m not asserting there’s lots to gain from killing others off either but if they want to hit the audience with something different, then I think honestly, Snow, Regina or Hook. Belle would be much like Graham, a basically good character and we’d see Rumple heartache again. Snow would give Charming, Emma and most especially Regina terrific material we’ve yet to explore. The same if Regina. Hook is interesting, but I do think there could be more to his story with Neal than we knew, and we might see some interesting developments between him and Emma. I’m going to end with something I think a tad controversial here as an opinion but, I sort of hope if it is Hook or Neal to die–that the other guy does not end up with Emma after all. I love SF, I do, and I know others love CS more than I probably do SF but ultimately the writers put themselves in a horrible spot if they’ve decided to kill off a character while pushing a romance. It’s just such a bad way to do it, no matter how many heroic scenarios we’ve all cooked up for a “good death”–it still feels like “well let’s clear up this triangle so there’s no doubt.” Shades of what they did to August, lazy writing, and poor planning. The triangle should have been resolved WELL before plotting out any sort of death, if it involves the triangle—unless its the apex. Killing Emma? That would never be something we ever saw coming. BUt it could destroy the show so most people say she’s pretty safe. Then again, maybe j.Mo is tired of flying back and forth to LA. We never know! I wish I came off more hopeful but I fall into that group of fans that no matter what I lose a character who’s journey I wanted to see end on a happier note, well at least I know Rumple’s safe. So at least there’s one!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
January 23, 2014 at 11:24 pm #240094RumplesGirl
KeymasterUltimately it is up to the writers to balance their show how they see fit, but killing off this great character after just killing him off? Very redundant
VERY. And when you take into account that many thought Bae “died” when Rumple said he lost him, it’s super redundant
First, we had a theme of belief, which was a general sort of thing that there is strong magic in hoping for things, combined with the idea of a leap of faith. Sometimes, you have to believe without proof and just go for it. You can’t wait for proof or for it to be safe. Second we had a theme of forgiveness and working together. The Jr6 +Neal put aside their differences to Save Henry. Third we had a theme of second chances. It wasn’t just Neal looking for his, we saw Mulan choosing not to go for hers, Ariel and Eric getting theirs, and Rumple and Neal reuiniting, Neal reuniting with Wendy and the Darling Brothers, briefly, Blue coming back, Tink getting her wings. So in some ways, one could say he had his second chance, but did he really? Rumple just said to Neal he could have happiness, just not with him. Then we saw what Neal considered his happiness get put on the other side of the magical universe AGAIN. He cannot catch a break except heartbreak, but he’s been the eternal optimist.
All of this.
To take that goodnatured character and chuck him with the trash would totally be in keeping with what this show does I suppose. He’d join Graham at least as someone who totally deserved better.
AGREED x 1000. Nealfire was planned from the start. The very REASON for the Curse. The father of Henry–you know the magical kid who brought the savior to town, whom just happened to be the former girlfriend of the reason for the curse? Killing him now makes no STORY sense that I can see.
I sort of hope if it is Hook or Neal to die–that the other guy does not end up with Emma after all. I love SF, I do, and I know others love CS more than I probably do SF but ultimately the writers put themselves in a horrible spot if they’ve decided to kill off a character while pushing a romance
That’s an interesting perspective. I have to wonder if A and E realize how out of control the triangle has gotten. They may have thought it’d be fun to have Emma be wooed by two guys but they failed to take into account how rabid fandom can get. So now they realize they’re in a position where big numbers of their internet base are going to be very upset. So Hook dies, but Emma can’t bring herself to be with Neal, so she ends up a single mother.
The triangle should have been resolved WELL before plotting out any sort of death, if it involves the triangle—unless its the apex.
Again I agree. It’s dragged on so long now. It should never have gone on this long. And part of me wonders if they thought it was playing out well to viewers. This is their first time in the big chairs as show runners and they did have a semi-successful triangle on LOST but that was before Social Media took over the world. Had we had Tumblr during LOST years, I can only imagine the shipping wars of Jate vs Skate
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"January 23, 2014 at 11:31 pm #240098heatherc1275
ParticipantPosted earlier tonight and for some reason, I actually believe Adam on this one. Call me naive but I think they actually do know that we’re out here.
#HopeforSwanFire #KeepNealAlivePlease

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