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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 25, 2014 at 2:58 pm #240669
    koffeegirl
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    One thing I really want for this season is a Baelfire/Nealcentric episode. I’d like to see him first arriving in our world after being in Neverland. I understand how Bae became the person he is today, but I’d love to see what made him choose the name Neal. I know we have gotten plenty of backstory of him as Baelfire, but I would like to see MJR play some of that part.

    I am hoping he is off with Robin Hood doing hero stuff while they are filming.

    I really want a big family reunion scene as well. I’m really disappointed that we haven’t see MRJ and Jared have many scenes together.  Henry just found his father——I want Neal to be given the chance to show what an awesome father he can be.

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    January 25, 2014 at 3:05 pm #240670
    Slurpeez
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    One thing I really want for this season is a Baelfire/Nealcentric episode. I’d like to see him first arriving in our world after being in Neverland. I understand how Bae became the person he is today, but I’d love to see what made him choose the name Neal. I know we have gotten plenty of backstory of him as Baelfire, but I would like to see MJR play some of that part.

    Nealfire is one and same person with his younger version, except that he’s been through more than any child should have to suffer. But I totally agree that I would LOVE to see Neal’s backstory after he arrived back in our world. As for how he chose the name Neal Cassidy, I like the idea he was influenced by the book “On the Road” whose character, Dean Moriarty, was based on real-life beatnik Neal Cassady.

    What was he doing between Tallahasssee and Manhattan? We know he was living in NYC when he met Tamara just after Emma had broken the curse, but we know nothing else about his life during those other 10 years. According to a recent TV Guide Lightning Round Q&A with Adam and Eddy, we’re supposed to see more of this time period, and we’re supposed to see Eion Bailey again (probably in a flashback). So I think the chances are good that we’ll get to see more of Nealfire’s backstory towards the season finale.

    I really want a big family reunion scene as well. I’m really disappointed that we haven’t see MRJ and Jared have many scenes together.  Henry just found his father——I want Neal to be given the chance to show what an awesome father he can be.

    We all do. That is why there had better be a good explanation for why Hook, and not Neal, is spending time with Henry. And that reason had better not be Hook is going to be Henry’s new stepfather! What a horrible quasi-stepfather Hook was and is to Baelfire!  However, I think at the last moment, Hook is going to realize what a deadbeat dad figure he was to Neal and will atone by now trying to do right by him. Hook may even play a role in helping to reunite Neal with Emma and Henry.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 25, 2014 at 3:18 pm #240673
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    One thing I really want for this season is a Baelfire/Nealcentric episode. I’d like to see him first arriving in our world after being in Neverland. I understand how Bae became the person he is today, but I’d love to see what made him choose the name Neal. I know we have gotten plenty of backstory of him as Baelfire, but I would like to see MJR play some of that part.

    I have a headcanon that 318 is called “Phoenix”

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 25, 2014 at 3:35 pm #240676
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I just thought everyone should know that I’m drinking hot cocoa right now.

    Totally put cinnamon in it.

    #HopeForSwanFire

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 25, 2014 at 3:41 pm #240678
    kfchimera
    Participant

    Yes, I want more Neal!  They decorated an apartment for him, sketched out a life for him.  What does it mean?  We saw glimpses of his life in London.  We saw the setting for his life in NL.

    Many times it is true these moments served other main characters reactions but a few scenes were SOLELY about Neal.

    His reaction in Broken, his reactions with August and Mulan, Robin Hood, Wendy & Darlings, Felix.  He had scenes with no other main cast present, just to tell his side of things.  They showed us he can use magic if necessary, that he isn’t a knee-jerk no magic person.  They showed us he loves Emma and Henry.  He’s smart and capable, as we saw resourceful teaching Emma certain tricks of the thief trade, thinking up that squid trick, “Why I didn’t coat the tip”.  Yes, Neal gets cocky and makes mistakes sometimes but he has humility enough to also take a back seat when he trust someone else to take point.  Like he does with Emma, and finally his father.

    I do want to know  more of the backstory.  I know the writers were excited to do NL.  I hope they got out of it what they wanted, because it was a detour I felt.  A non-essential part of the overall plot they had in their head because they didn’t know originally they would get the rights to it.  I think they knew Bae went somewhere and Henry’s father left because of the curse.   The details of it though are things they sketched out as they drew up Season 2, anchoring his backstory in NL, and with Hook.  How they must have snickered when people asked about the connection between Emma and Hook.  Yes there’s a connection alright.  His name is Neal.  They KNEW that when they made that episode and its been informing every single thing about the Hook/Emma/Neal relationship.   J.mo even said her attraction to Hook was “complicated because he reminds her of Neal”.  There’s complications with Neal too, but those are about HIM, not Hook.  She could have said it the other way, that she fell for Neal because he had certain qualities she sees in Hook.  She didn’t, or make it more neutral, that “its complicated because they’re two sides of a coin”.  They are foils as Slurpeez was saying, but I think the actress clearly recognizes there is a stronger bond with Neal.    Whatever kinship, kindred spirits, fellow-feeling or camraderie, or attraction sparks with Hook, at the end of the day?  Neal is the man she will probably always love.  Curses, memory wipes and things like that aside of course!

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    January 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm #240679
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    Just a thought, even in their cursed states as Mary-Margaret and Lacey, Snow and Belle still felt that attraction for their true loves, so it’s possible that cursed Emma will still feel her attraction for Neal.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    January 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm #240681
    lisas
    Participant

    Just a thought, even in their cursed states as Mary-Margaret and Lacey, Snow and Belle still felt that attraction for their true loves, so it’s possible that cursed Emma will still feel her attraction for Neal.

    I’d like to think so POM


    Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

    January 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm #240682
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    I just thought everyone should know that I’m drinking hot cocoa right now. Totally put cinnamon in it. #HopeForSwanFire

    So am I! #BelieveInSecondChances!

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 25, 2014 at 3:56 pm #240683
    CrownedWithLaurels
    Participant

    AskMikey sometime this week!

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/427180050597687296

    Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

    January 25, 2014 at 4:02 pm #240685
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    AskMikey sometime this week!

    Awesome! I hope that reassures people who feared MRJ was leaving the show because of hate on Twitter . MRJ clearly enjoys his fans and says #Boom! to all the haters.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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