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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • January 30, 2014 at 3:46 pm #241750
    kfchimera
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    Spoilering in case I ramble into something–this is a ramble sorry 🙂

    Ah fandom, where there’s chicken littles and pollyannas dancing about, and I don’t know what to believe!

    I want to keep my expectations in line.  It is important to note that the rumor mill has always had a kind of odd spin to it, hasn’t it? Remember that time when a promo showed a gun held on Neal and people were convinced it was Emma?  There was an elaborate theory that she would never trust Neal ever again, besides he hates magic and is probably going to side with Tamara.  Screencaps to back  the hand analysis up too.  Then what did we see? Oh that’s right.  Emma rushed to defend Neal, he’d gotten her back and they said I love you.  But then he fell through the portal!

    Next people denied Neal would be back because not a series regular (he’d been promoted by then).  They said Emma didn’t grieve much and if she did it was only for Henry’s sake.     What happened next? Oh that’s right, she’s equating Neal and Graham dying as awful things for which she nonsensically blames Snow and Charming, instead of you know, Regina who actually killed Graham or Tamara or even Hook who worked with them and could have lifted a finger to help instead of worry about his revenge.  Plus she admits outright she knew the instant she saw him and never stopped loving him.  Something she repeats later on in the cave to him, but then, she tacks on she was hoping it was a trick in a very confusing ending to what could have been a happier reunion.  Under the circumstances though, I feel like it made sense for Emma to be too afraid he’d die again on NL to be really happy to see him in a cage given all the stuff she’d just heard and Pan’s threats.

    Emma does deny things, which makes her tough to read.  Yet the writers have underscored that her denial with Neal comes from fears about fate now, her role as savior first but haven’t really tackled what she thinks in terms of his romantic bid.   Does she believe him about why he left, and of course, can she forgive his relationship with Tamara knowing what she knew about Tamara?  We didn’t see that on screen really.   We saw Emma at her emotional and logical limits over Henry, her father and all of it and unable to deal right then, right there.  Then when maybe she can? She’s still fighting her spidey sense that all is not well and then the next fairy-tale separation happens.

    So I don’t think they resolved everything here but I’ve thought that before too about other things.  I don’t know with these writers anymore.  They’re a little too much on the “anything is possible” tack for me to think what’s come before has to make sense with what will be next because you know, when something that’s a crack spec becomes true like PapaPan (despite an already filmed and shot but cutting room floor scene to the contrary?) who knows.

    I’ve just got enough chicken little in me to worry about things like that but enough PollyAnna to say but…its a story about fairytales. Hope! Neal’s their own creation!  Adam just namechecked Neal the other day in a tweet to one of his idols, Stephen King!   Talking about characters on TV talking about TV.   He could have used Hook/Emma scene  shown at the PCA  about the permed hair but didn’t.   What came to his mind? The less recent Neal/Mulan one.   Does it mean something?  I think it means Adam unlike some fans remembers Neal exists.

    Heather’s spec is fun and I think Neal is definitely going to be in some kind of peril.   Its his role right, the dude in distress?   We’re going to be sweating bullets about his fate no matter what I think, because Emma is the heroine.  She’s going to have to save him, but he’ll be a partner in some way because that’s the modern thing.  No one’s passive all the way, tied to the railroad tracks.    Except Belle….I kid, I kid.  She’s had her moments too.   I think Neal could be in the hospital injured, or in another land, or memory-less perhaps.  I have no idea.  Maybe he’s body swapped with Henry!   Who even knows but  makes more sense than a 13 year old getting driving lessons as a means of consoling him.  Yes let’s take this huge metal car and hope we don’t crash and seriously injure ourselves. Should take your mind off it!   We know blood magic is a thing, that Neal may have been through more worlds, and he means a lot to Emma and Henry.  There are lots of things to do with Neal if the writers want besides the trash basket.  Eddy said the experiences post Manhattan were a “benefit” versus her meeting him without those experiences, but we already guessed she’d get her memory back by then.

    ANyway my overall reaction to the spoiler that shall not be named is that of Neal hearing Emma is in jail “How is this good!?”  I need someone to make a gifset of August saying its good and put “writers” on it and Neal saying that in response.   That’s how I feel.   I don’t care what character is the target, it is not giving me excited to be watching feels….but I do still hope for good things and a  real second chance for Neal and Emma.

     

     

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    January 30, 2014 at 3:48 pm #241752
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    What is with the dismantling of the Jolly Roger? Maybe nothing. We shall see.

    Anyway, 13 minutes and counting until #AskMRJ!

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 30, 2014 at 3:51 pm #241754
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Remember that time when a promo showed a gun held on Neal and people were convinced it was Emma? There was an elaborate theory that she would never trust Neal ever again, besides he hates magic and is probably going to side with Tamara. Screencaps to back the hand analysis up too. Then what did we see? Oh that’s right. Emma rushed to defend Neal, he’d gotten her back and they said I love you. But then he fell through the portal!

    I remember that. LOL. @Phee pulled out pics of hands to find a mole.

    its a story about fairytales. Hope! Neal’s their own creation! Adam just namechecked Neal the other day in a tweet to one of his idols, Stephen King! Talking about characters on TV talking about TV. He could have used Hook/Emma scene shown at the PCA about the permed hair but didn’t. What came to his mind? The less recent Neal/Mulan one. Does it mean something? I think it means Adam unlike some fans remembers Neal exists.

    god I hope Adam remembers

    but I do still hope for good things and a real second chance for Neal and Emma.

    Yup!

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    January 30, 2014 at 4:18 pm #241773
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    Another pretty (someone help me make it big, LOL) 😉

     

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    January 30, 2014 at 4:25 pm #241777
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/429001324814819328


    *Believe in second chances! *

     

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 30, 2014 at 4:41 pm #241784
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/429005302831136769

    Neal feels the same way SF fans feels right now! #HopeForSwanfire

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    January 30, 2014 at 5:13 pm #241787
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    On the 30th day of January, the SFer’s gave to RG:
    30 Trips to Tallahassee
    29 Cookies made by Granny
    28 SwanFire Smooches
    27 Dresses to attend Balls in (Including a chance to dance with a certain imp)
    26 Happy days featuring all your favourite characters
    25 Lessons at the spinning wheel with Rumple as your teacher
    24 RumBelle and SwanFire family dinners
    23 Shopping trips with Emma
    22 Nealfire smiles
    21 Horse rides with Charming
    20 Knitting sessions with Granny
    19 Girl’s nights with Belle and Snow
    18 Special SwanFire moments
    17 Glasses of Regina’s homemade apple cider
    16 Bouquets of flowers hand delivered by Rumple wearing whatever you want him in
    15 Sleepovers with Red (That don’t occur during her time of the month)
    14 Trips to the pub with Tinkerbell
    13 Bags of Pixie Dust
    12 Archery lessons from Robin Hood
    11 Loyal Lost Boys
    10 Plates of food from Granny’s
    9 Objects Ariel “borrowed”
    8 Sneaky fairies
    7 Dwarves a drinking
    6 Anton sized mugs of Hot Chocolate with Cinnamon served by Regina
    5 RumBelle kisses
    4 Times Neal makes puppy eyes
    3 Snowing saying “I will find you”
    2 Henry hugs
    and Emma kicking Hook in the balls!

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    January 30, 2014 at 5:26 pm #241789
    Ranisha Pitts
    Participant

    Well Neal was the only one who had hope, “This isn’t over, I’ll see you both again!” I think he was right! LOL

    "I will be kind but I will speak my mind."

    January 30, 2014 at 5:54 pm #241792
    lisas
    Participant

    Here is my Screen Shot of #AskMRJ Trending WorldWide http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f20/AGStevensTrinityGuardian/ScreenShot2014-01-30at45614PM_zps44e3ee4f.png


    Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

    January 30, 2014 at 6:05 pm #241794
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    30 Trips to Tallahassee

    I love you. Just so you know

    Neal feels the same way SF fans feels right now! #HopeForSwanfire

    This answer about “super not crazy about it” HURT MY INSIDES. YOU WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING. I LOVE YOU MRJ AND NEALFIRE. I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP

    *ahem*

    Gave her hope

    That’s RIGHT! He gave Emma hope! No declarations of love or “we’ll always have Paris” bull. IT WAS HOPE THAT HE GAVE HER.

    THIS ISN’T OVER.

    Here is my Screen Shot of #AskMRJ Trending WorldWide

    #BOOM

    Here it as the #1 trend

    And again…Heather’s pic needs to be BIG BIG BIG

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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