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February 1, 2014 at 10:13 am #242229
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KeymasterA thought. Last night when I asked, Adam did say that the death was planned from the start of the season. Would you really go and make MRJ a series regular only to kill him off at the end (or middle) of your 22 episode season? They could have had him as a recurring guest star, especially after the amount of screen time he’s had so far. Or would you let the actor really go out with a bang: give him a VERY big story and then kill him? If you look at the numbers for the first half, Colin was the male with the most amount of screen time which made sense given that it was NL but what if it was also letting him shine and his character shine before killing Hook? They didn’t make Robbie a regular nor Barbara in S2. They remained guest stars despite having significant screen time.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 1, 2014 at 10:23 am #242233Slurpeez
ParticipantRG wrote: Or would you let the actor really go out with a bang: give him a VERY big story and then kill him? If you look at the numbers for the first half, Colin was the male with the most amount of screen time which made sense given that it was NL but what if it was also letting him shine and his character shine before killing Hook?
Interesting. Possibly.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 1, 2014 at 10:28 am #242234kfchimera
ParticipantThat is beyond cute!
(giggles) I wrote that trying for a limerick but the submission site didn’t format it that way as they centered everything. Of course it’s a clean limerick (mostly, we know Henry got here somehow) so that disqualifies it from being a true limerick :P.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
February 1, 2014 at 10:28 am #242235Slurpeez
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please, don’t let go
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 1, 2014 at 10:39 am #242238RumplesGirl
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please, don’t let go
So much hurt and yet so beautiful.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 1, 2014 at 10:44 am #242240Phee
ParticipantI love your little poem, KFC. 🙂
Yeah, promoting MRJ to a full cast member when they did would be pretty silly if they were gonna write him out before the season was over. With all the screen time and promo Hook’s been getting this season, it’d make sense if it’s building up to the climax and end of the character’s storyline IMO. If Neal died now, they’d get no media mileage out of it at all, because the character just hasn’t been promoted. They’d get plenty of mileage out of Hook’s death though, because all the media is already focused on him. Neal’s death would be a *fizzle* in the media, and in the show, because they’ve already shown the rest dealing with his death before. Hook’s death would be a *BANG*.
February 1, 2014 at 10:52 am #242246RumplesGirl
KeymasterYeah, promoting MRJ to a full cast member when they did would be pretty silly if they were gonna write him out before the season was over. With all the screen time and promo Hook’s been getting this season, it’d make sense if it’s building up to the climax and end of the character’s storyline IMO. If Neal died now, they’d get no media mileage out of it at all, because the character just hasn’t been promoted. They’d get plenty of mileage out of Hook’s death though, because all the media is already focused on him. Neal’s death would be a *fizzle* in the media, and in the show, because they’ve already shown the rest dealing with his death before. Hook’s death would be a *BANG*.
Adam always says he and Eddy aren’t responsible for promotion, but they do have to sit down with their marketing team and say, “ok here is our story for the season. You figure out how to make it work.” Telling their marketing team that they want to kill Hook or Neal before S3 would be something huge that the team has to incorporate. Hook’s poster came out first. The JR was at ComicCon. Hook’s face was plastered all over SDCC. When ONCE facebook asked for fans to vote for their new cover photo–2/3 all had the “Hook” imagine and the tagline “get Hooked.” Over the past month of hiatus they have created and tweeted more Hook/CS pics than any other (almost exclusivity in fact, the exception being the death of Rumple). During the season they tweeted during the show and it was a TON of Hook stuff. All media about ONCE mentions Hook in some degree. At first I was overly annoyed and now…suspicion.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm #242261Ozma
ParticipantYeah, promoting MRJ to a full cast member when they did would be pretty silly if they were gonna write him out before the season was over. With all the screen time and promo Hook’s been getting this season, it’d make sense if it’s building up to the climax and end of the character’s storyline IMO. If Neal died now, they’d get no media mileage out of it at all, because the character just hasn’t been promoted. They’d get plenty of mileage out of Hook’s death though, because all the media is already focused on him. Neal’s death would be a *fizzle* in the media, and in the show, because they’ve already shown the rest dealing with his death before. Hook’s death would be a *BANG*.
Adam always says he and Eddy aren’t responsible for promotion, but they do have to sit down with their marketing team and say, “ok here is our story for the season. You figure out how to make it work.” Telling their marketing team that they want to kill Hook or Neal before S3 would be something huge that the team has to incorporate. Hook’s poster came out first. The JR was at ComicCon. Hook’s face was plastered all over SDCC. When ONCE facebook asked for fans to vote for their new cover photo–2/3 all had the “Hook” imagine and the tagline “get Hooked.” Over the past month of hiatus they have created and tweeted more Hook/CS pics than any other (almost exclusivity in fact, the exception being the death of Rumple). During the season they tweeted during the show and it was a TON of Hook stuff. All media about ONCE mentions Hook in some degree. At first I was overly annoyed and now…suspicion.
Yeah, i must say is at the same time very ood this hook promotion, and is true that adam say that they dont do promotion, but they write the show,and if Abc has something to promote is because is part of the show, but going back to the hiatus promotion, i dont live in Us so i dont know , but i asked yesterday at the chat when u can use the word beloved, and i was told in marriaged and funerals, i dont know if when u leave a job and the company really like u , they would do a speech and say beloved, but then i was told that those words arent use when u leave a job, but my point is, last sunday on colin birthday, they made a new HBday just for him, instead of using the normal one like for all actors, and used the word Beloved, at the time i thought was very biased now i wonder if is a goodbye( or maybe is me being hope, i dont know), like the hook promotion in one week, i mean 5 days everyday with hook pics on the net, was in fact the week of tca, that was were adam and eddie spoile the death to Matt, makes me wonder.Also my ship heart, liked the theory of film several deaths with several actors or at least with one and then another one is the death, that woul be a good way of stoping the leak and even use a person as decoy while they kill someone else without us even realizing.
even wonder if we wont have more actors that we wont see on the next weeks, so that we especulate, i even thinking is correct the possibility of paying the actor who dies to stay in vancouver and appear on studio just to pretend that is working and this way the pap will get very confuse.
February 1, 2014 at 12:23 pm #242263Josephine
ParticipantI wouldn’t read too much into the world “beloved”. It’s used in reference to anything you like or love a lot. So to many Hook is a “beloved character.” It’s used a lot in reference to art and literature. Another example is, “Harry Potter is a book series beloved by many.”
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
February 1, 2014 at 12:36 pm #242265lisas
ParticipantGood Afternoon Everyone,
I’ve said all along that I believe that it will be Hook that is the one who is going to die. Storyline wise his death does indeed make the most sense logically because the Neverland story is done and they have said no more Neverland so if this is story driven as Adam has been maintaining all along I can definitely see it happening especially given Adam’s response to RG’s tweet last night. When you look overall at the promo posters this season they make it clear as to what the objective is and what the end result of each character will be by the end of Season 3. Take Hook for example his poster says “Believe that a Pirate can be a hero” Through out season 3 we have seen Hook maintain that he believes in “Good Form” and that he is a man of honor. Yes did offer his ship and services at the end of season 2 to help get Henry and yes he even went as far as to forgo his desire to kill Rumple and avenge Milah’s death but still his intentions in doing all of this was not noble or unselfish and Charming saw it for what it was and called him out on it in the episode Good Form which is that Hook wanted Emma. He proved that at the end of Good Form by using the fact that he saved David’s life from the dreamshade poisoning and then expected Emma to show some gratitude by kissing him he wasn’t going to accept a simple thank you from her which by my estimation shows that his motivation was anything but unselfish. There is more examples throughout the rest of the season 3A but we have yet to see him really do something noble and unselfish and to put the needs or the life or lives of someone else above his own wants, needs and desires and I believe that is what we will see sometime during Season 3B and this motto in the promo picture will actually come true “Believe That A Pirate Can Be A Hero” And what would make him a hero and redeem him would be for him to make the ultimate sacrifice of his life to save Neal, Emma and even Henry from death. Neal’s poster motto on the other hand says to “Believe In Second Chances” and that has been his mantra the entire Season 3A when he told Robin Hood that Emma & Henry were his Second Chance. Before Rumple made his sacrifice he even told Neal that happiness was possible just not with him.” I think Rumple was trying to tell Neal that His Second Chance at happiness was with Emma & Henry. I think Rumple may have fore saw the future because back in Season 2 episode 15 The Queen Is Dead Rumple told Emma that she wanted a Second Chance with Neal and in Season 2 episode 21 Second Star To The Right Rumple again told Neal that he carried a torch for Emma. The theme of Second Chances has been a theme ever since season 2 and I can’t believe that they would just abruptly not want their audience to believe in Second Chances because that also constitutes believing in Hope and True Love and there is no way that Adam & Eddy would take away those themes from the show. So I think the speculation that it’s Neal who will die is an intended misdirection in order to shock fans when it turns out to be Hook as the one who dies.
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