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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • February 4, 2014 at 10:40 am #242759
    RumplesGirl
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    3Princesses wrote: I’m not really a shipper at all, but I just came up with an idea based on some of the recent spoilers that might encourage you all here. Somehow something happens to Neal where he is separated from his soul.  Everyone believes he is dead, but Hook thinks he can save him based on pirate lore, which is why he is talking to Ariel. He needs a mermaid tear & Davy Jones to ferry him like POTC. The key is though when he saves him, he had to switch places with him. So Hook ends up dying to save Neal after releasing his soul.

    That is actually my entire headcanon right now!!! Nice to see that someone else (a non shipper) might be there with me!!!

    Also, feel free to stop by anytime 🙂

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 4, 2014 at 10:43 am #242760
    Slurpeez
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    3princesses wrote: I’m not really a shipper at all, but I just came up with an idea based on some of the recent spoilers that might encourage you all here. Somehow something happens to Neal where he is separated from his soul. Everyone believes he is dead, but Hook thinks he can save him based on pirate lore, which is why he is talking to Ariel. He needs a mermaid tear & Davy Jones to ferry him like POTC. The key is though when he saves him, he had to switch places with him. So Hook ends up dying to save Neal after releasing his soul.

    That sounds very plausible to me. It’s always nice to have a non-shipper’s perspective, since sometimes I start to wonder if my own wishes have biased my perspective. When I try to be objective and when I just think about the plot developments and the character arcs, I’ve always thought that Hook could become a Sydney-Carton type of last-minute hero; he’s someone who lived a pretty selfish existence but who ultimately sacrificed himself out of unrequited love. I still think it’s no coincidence that the announcement of a character death was made on the 1-year anniversary of the airing of In the Name of the Brother in which Emma called Hook “dead guy of the year.” I remember thinking what a foreboding foreshadowing of Hook’s death that was, and that was before I was even fully onboard with Swanfire. Also, the title selection for 3×17 “The Jolly Roger” could refer to both the name of Hook’s ship and also the symbol of the skull and crossbones (i.e. the symbol of death). These writers are tricky and may make it seem like Neal is all but dead, but that could be a huge misdirection so that when then other shoe drops, it’s actually Hook who sacrifices his own life to save Neal, the boy he previously wronged. Also, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if the spoiler about a death being reversed is really about Neal.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 11:12 am #242765
    3princesses
    Participant

    It could also be a way for them to bring in how Mulan & Aurora got Phillip’s soul back.

    I hope my spoiler tag worked!

    February 4, 2014 at 11:20 am #242768
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Excellent tie in @3Princesses!

    Here. Have a cookie.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 4, 2014 at 11:26 am #242770
    heatherc1275
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    Wow, all the cookies to 3princesses for an awesome theory! I saw RG’s similar theory a while back and thought it was also pretty good but now seeing it written out again by someone with no shipper ties to either party, it sure makes a whole lot of sense overall. I’d actually like seeing a story like that because it would be emotional, redemptive, heartbreaking, and amazingly acted by everyone who would more than likely be involved with it. JMo in particular would probably kill in scenes around that type of scenario which I always love seeing because I think she’s an amazing actress, especially when they give her material worthy of her talent. Here’s hoping this goes from your guys’ computers to the TV screen! 😀

    BTW-We REALLY need that latest lightning round interview to be posted soon. 😮

    #HopeforSwanFire


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    February 4, 2014 at 11:28 am #242771
    3princesses
    Participant

    Thanks for the cookies!

    February 4, 2014 at 11:35 am #242772
    Phee
    Participant

    It’s an intriguing theory, that could tie several story elements together in an interesting and emotional way. It all sorta hinges on Blackbeard really being Davy Jones, which I really hope he is. I just think that showing Hook risking his own safety to save Neal would be the perfect redemptive parallel to him having risked Bae’s safety by handing him over to Pan, and maybe that could entail handing his own body and soul over in place of Neal’s. And so help me God if we don’t get SOMETHING to elaborate on the CaptainFire relationship in S3B.

    February 4, 2014 at 11:45 am #242775
    Slurpeez
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    Considering they would have had a year together without Emma nor Rumple being used as a block towards their development. We ought to see a positive shift in their relationship (knocks on wood).

    I hope so. The main thing that frustrated me about S3a wasn’t just Hook trying to insert himself between Emma and Neal; it was the way that the writers just glossed over the history between Hook and Neal that we learned about in 2×22. It seemed like they passed the buck on that one, but maybe they did so for a very good reason: the story between Hook and Neal is a driving point in both of their stories that may culminate in a way that is driving force behind S3b.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 4, 2014 at 11:54 am #242777
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Mickstemp wrote: Considering they would have had a year together without Emma nor Rumple being used as a block towards their development. We ought to see a positive shift in their relationship (knocks on wood).

    I hope so. The main thing that frustrated me about S3a wasn’t just Hook trying to insert himself between Emma and Neal; it was the way that the writers just glossed over the history between Hook and Neal that we learned about in 2×22. It seemed like they passed the puck on that one, but maybe they did so for a very good reason: the story between Hook and Neal is a deriving point in both of their stories that may culminate in a way that is driving force behind S3b.

    That’s a very interesting thought. We’ve all been frustrated by the lack of CaptainFire interaction that wasn’t about Emma. So maybe it will be revisited in S3B if Neal dies and Hook goes on a quest to bring him back

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm #242781
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I thought THIS was funny

    Trying to calm down fellow SF shippers after new “spoilers” come out

    Also..

    And even…

    But really…

    This is exactly how it feels. And to those SFers that want to give up …

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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