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February 4, 2014 at 2:27 pm #242802
heatherc1275
ParticipantJo – I say this with a lot of love and affection….you really need to let go of the ‘evidence’ because it’s not really telling us anything. Until the show starts back up again we know absolutely NOTHING story wise about any photos that we’re seeing (and don’t get me started on the tooly Tumblr spoiler which I just saw at lunch and was the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read) so IMO, panicking and losing hope is awfully premature. I know this is hard, I know things might not look good, but I’m choosing to have hope because if those guys at the top are REALLY trying to tell a story about hope, then things will eventually turn out pretty good for our little ship. We just have to weather the storm to get to that point and that’s why we have each other in here. ((((Jo)))) 🙂
#HopeforSwanFire #BaetoStay
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#MoreBOOMLessGloomFebruary 4, 2014 at 2:35 pm #242804RumplesGirl
Keymaster@Jo I would encourage you to back a few pages and read @3Princesses (and mine) headcanon on the subject. It’s a valid theory.
(also the ducks are getting ready for the their first adventure…)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm #242806heatherc1275
Participant@Jo I would encourage you to back a few pages and read @3Princesses (and mine) headcanon on the subject. It’s a valid theory. (also the ducks are getting ready for the their first adventure…)
DUCKTALES….woo OOO oooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀 😀 😀 😀
*cue the therapy bills* 😉
#MoreBOOMLessGloomFebruary 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm #242807PriceofMagic
ParticipantDid you see Adam’s tweet about Hook?
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixFebruary 4, 2014 at 2:50 pm #242810Josephine
Participant😆 Duck Tales for sure. Hoping Mallard Rumple makes an appearance at some point.
I only saw POTC 1 and 3 so I don’t know the plots but it is a good idea. Since last season I’ve been, along with Slurpeeze on the Hook=Carton train, but at this point anything goes. The thing that bothers me most about the show is the possibility of continuity errors, like the Rumbelle flashback in 3×11. If they can rationalize changing that then anything is fair game. But until the thing happens I shall be full of rainbows and unicorn stickers.
SERENITY NOW!
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
February 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm #242812Slurpeez
ParticipantDid you see Adam’s tweet about Hook?
This one?
“@jessicab8597: @AdamHorowitzLA When did you decide to make Hook 1 of Emma's love interests?” Who said we did?
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) February 4, 2014
To me, the term “love interest” can be used interchangeably with “suitor” but perhaps it’s better to call Hook a “potential love interest” since it was never actually established that Emma was seriously interested in him. Sure, Hook is infatuated with her, and there was the kiss. Yet, Emma has repeatedly stated that kiss was just a kiss. It doesn’t mean Emma reciprocates his feelings or interest in any serious way.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 4, 2014 at 2:56 pm #242813kfchimera
ParticipantIt is a fine line between hope and fear sometimes. I just don’t know with these writers, and in a way, I really get into Emma’s mindset in the cave here. I’m not sure I can take my heart being crushed again no matter how much I love the show, and in a way, its easier to believe the worst than to hope and be disappointed as I was with the show Heroes. Yet happy endings DO start with hope, and I’m trying to have a little of it. A corner of my mind is starting to ask some questions about the the things people are saying we “know” and thinking, well we don’t know. Sometimes funerals have open caskets, so the actor could be on set at a signing thing, because they’re needed to be lying down as “the body”. In which case, it’s not Neal. Also very possible that a minor character is dead (and close casket thing) perhaps even Gorham’s character, maybe he was a real world guy who didn’t believe Emma, came to town and got mixed up in a confrontation with the Witch and dies. That’d be harsh for Emma of course but as fans we aren’t attached to that character yet. We have no idea of context and MRJ definitely could be filming in studio due to the plot that has him perhaps stranded yet again somewhere. That seems to be his fate, hopping around worlds. So we just have to wait and see. A lot of people are great at putting out volumes of headcannons about how Neal is unimportant, and obviously it must be him that’s dead but some of these are the same people who will say things in chat like “Neal didn’t know about the curse when he left Emma.” Or will insist Emma ignored him at the townline. When people are editing the show in their own memories to quite that extent, it does make me question the speculation and spoilers that get filtered by them too. I know many of them aren’t doing it on purpose out of dislike for the character but simply they WANT and NEED to believe that things are this way because of how much they like Hook. They often admit they watch only for Hook, and that’s not how I think the show is written. I do not think (ABC media aside ) that the writers think of Hook as the main character around which the show revolves. So we should wait and see how things go and I know it may sound like I’m totally convinced at times by the doom and gloom, but really, a small flicker of hope is still hope. It’s there, and it might get brighter with some more information about the next episode A&E are writing. So fingers crossed we get some more hopeful signs.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
February 4, 2014 at 3:19 pm #242817Slurpeez
ParticipantYou know, this overall story of Neal and Emma really goes back all the way to the pilot. Remember the opening title scene shots:
“Once Upon a Time, there was an enchanted forest filled with all the classic character we know. Or think we know. One day they found themselves trapped in a place where all their happy endings were stollen. Our world. This is how it happened….”
At first glance, that suggests the story is really about Snow White and Prince Charming. Yet, they were cursed not to remember their old lives, so they never really knew what they were missing. By contrast, Emma, Baelfire and Pinocchio are all children who grew up in this world without parents. The only one of those characters who has gotten his “redo” with his father is Pinocchio. That leaves Emma and Neal, two lost children, who’re still searching for the same thing in our world: a home.
Charming suggested in S2 that Emma return to the Enchanted Forest with him and Snow, because this world had been nothing but cruel to her. And yet, as we’ve seen in the episode “Going Home” Regina gave Emma and Henry happy memories in our world. And the setting for that happy narrative just happens to be New York, which was most recently Neal’s home. The song “Charley’s Girl” was playing when Emma woke up at 8:15, linking her to when we first saw Nealfire in “Broken.” We caught a glimpse of Emma’s idea of a happy life: cooking a meal for her son, going about a normal, happy routine. The only missing ingredient is Neal. The only reason Emma, Neal and Henry aren’t together today is because of two horrible curses. This idea of “going home” I believe is at the heart of Neal, Emma and Henry’s journey to find one another. They’ve all been alone and now it’s time for them to find hope that they could indeed find a happy ending in our world; that is the heart of this modern-day, real-life fairytale I believe that’s unfolding before our eyes. Emma doesn’t have to return to a mythical land that she never really called home; rather, Emma could be happy in our word, because she really grew up her, just like Neal did, if only she could learn to incorporate some of the important lessons Snow and Charming have together taught her: happy endings always start with hope.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 4, 2014 at 3:56 pm #242820RumplesGirl
KeymasterYou know, this overall story of Neal and Emma really goes back all the way to the pilot. Remember the opening title scene shots:
“Once Upon a Time, there was an enchanted forest filled with all the classic character we know. Or think we know. One day they found themselves trapped in a place where all their happy endings were stollen. Our world. This is how it happened….”
At first glance, that suggests the story is really about Snow White and Prince Charming. Yet, they were cursed not to remember their old lives, so they never really knew what they were missing. By contrast, Emma, Baelfire and Pinocchio are all children who grew up in this world without parents. The only one of those characters who has gotten his “redo” with his father is Pinocchio. That leaves Emma and Neal, two lost children, who’re still searching for the same thing in our world: a home. Charming suggested in S2 that Emma return to the Enchanted Forest with him and Snow, because this world had been nothing but cruel to her. And yet, as we’ve seen in the episode “Going Home” Regina gave Emma and Henry happy memories in our world. And the setting for that happy narrative just happens to be New York, which was most recently Neal’s home. The song “Charley’s Girl” was playing when Emma woke up at 8:15, linking her to when we first saw Nealfire in “Broken.” We caught a glimpse of Emma’s idea of a happy life: cooking a meal for her son, going about a normal, happy routine. The only missing ingredient is Neal. The only reason Emma, Neal and Henry aren’t together today is because of two horrible curses. This idea of “going home” I believe is at the heart of Neal, Emma and Henry’s journey to find one another. They’ve all been alone and now it’s time for them to find hope that they could indeed find a happy ending in our world; that is the heart of this modern-day, real-life fairytale I believe that’s unfolding before our eyes. Emma doesn’t have to return to a mythical land that she never really called home; rather, Emma could be happy in our word, because she really grew up her, just like Neal did, if only she could learn to incorporate some of the important lessons Snow and Charming have together taught her: happy endings always start with hope.
#Boom
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 4, 2014 at 5:06 pm #242823Anonymous
Inactive(also the ducks are getting ready for the their first adventure…)
YEAHHHH!!!!! Can not wait for Emma and Neal Duck Adventures.
Ever thought of making a separate thread for this like with the caption thread
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