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At the same time, though…they were super coy about Neal’s fate. The *one* question we got about him they almost brushed aside as “we’ll learn more about his character” and then moved on. And the “he’s[Hook] not going anywhere” comment was a little distressing. I don’t want anyone to die but to lay that out in an interview not long after you’ve dropped the death bomb shell doesn’t help. We can talk the logical story progression all we want–it’s still our interpretation of events, colored by ship bias. I do think I am going to need to get myself ready to say goodbye to Neal but *hope* that it isn’t him
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The way that Adam just said, “Hook isn’t going anywhere” makes me wonder exactly the meaning of that decleration. He isn’t going anywhere this season or ever? It was really odd and uncharacteristic for Adam just to seemingly remove Hook from the line of fire. Could someone tweet him for further clarification? Maybe we can take that at face value, but maybe not. Maybe he just means Hook isn’t going anywhere in the next several episodes? I’m not sure. Also, the way the said a character may revert made me think it could be Hook; he’s been known to switch allegiances before whenever it suited him most.
The lack of detail of Neal could be an ominous thing for his character, but it could also be a good thing, too. Maybe Neal’s role is an important secret to keep, and his contribution to the story will be revealed piece-mill wise. I still think the theme of “home” being so important to both Neal’s and Emma’s characters is very important to where the story is going. Emma ending up in NYC, rather than Boston, is still the biggest indicator in my mind that her idea of home matches Neal’s concept of home.
By making it seem like Hook is this reformed pirate content to exchange his pirate coat for blue jeans and a flannel shirt for Emma’s sake, they might be deliberately misleading people into believing Hook is safe from danger. Yet, is he really? They also said, “And sometimes that growth can mean reversion—I’m on a path that’s not working for me, so I’m going to go back to my old ways.” Of the two, Hook and Neal, whose character does that description most fit? In my estimation, Hook’s.
For clever writers like A&E, they could be lulling fans into thinking a “beloved” character like Hook is safe and then they lower the boom. As they said, they could tell us everything, but then there’d be no suspense.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
they are clever but at the same time, they talked about how heated it gets in debates in the writing room. And it makes me think that if the other writers are really enamored of Hook/CS then would A and E back down from their original SF vision (if it was their original idea) because the rest of the room no longer thinks it’s a good idea? Likewise, they might have been really coy about Nealfire’s role in S3B because it’s so big, but then there is the lack of shooting on MRJ’s part. *sigh* I am really frustrated with the back and forth–one article gives me hope and the other crushes me.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"that safe zone is how they made ppl feel with graham… he was much loved and we all thought he was safe when he was with emma then BAM regina crushes his heart and he dies in emmas arms … i can picture this death being a shocking one like it was rumored someone getting their throat slashed now theres no coming back from that …
#BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #FateCould someone please tweet Adam this question: Why did Emma end up in NYC rather than Boston in 3×11? I don’t have Twitter, otherwise, I’d ask. Thanks.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
RumplesGirl wrote:they are clever but at the same time, they talked about how heated it gets in debates in the writing room. And it makes me think that if the other writers are really enamored of Hook/CS then would A and E back down from their original SF vision (if it was their original idea) because the rest of the room no longer thinks it’s a good idea?
First, there may be debates in and amongst the writing room staff, but at the end of the day, the people with executive power and final-decision making authority are A&E. The writing room is not a democracy. They may take other writers’ opinions on board, but they’re still the bosses.
RumplesGirl wrote: Likewise, they might have been really coy about Nealfire’s role in S3B because it’s so big, but then there is the lack of shooting on MRJ’s part. *sigh* I am really frustrated with the back and forth–one article gives me hope and the other crushes me.
Remember we don’t know if there has been a lack of shooting on MRJ’s part; for all we know, there has been a lot, just in studio, in front of a green screen. He may not have a lot of outdoor scenes as a result, because maybe that would be way too big a spoiler. Maybe his role won’t be as pronounced in the first half of S3b, but it will increase in the latter half.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here’s a tweet that might help you feel better! That quotation “He’s [Hook’s] not going anywhere,” was taken out of context, according to Adam.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
RG, I’m sorry in advance if the spoiler bars don’t work. I haven’t done this in a while.
I’m going to start off by saying I am 100% prepared for Neal being the death. I always have an expect the worst attitude, so I won’t be disappointed. BUT that being said, I am really suspicious of the recent spoilers and interviews we’ve received lately (especially the one today). The wording that they choose are extremely ambiguous: “we won’t see that this year” could mean in the future, or it could mean not at all. “He’s not going anywhere” could mean for a while, not leaving SB, not going to another land. “eventually he will get a costume change”, could mean he’s in a flashback in his navy uniform, or a younger incarnation of Hook before Milah (pirates did add on to their clothes as they plundered). It doesn’t mean he’ll be in jeans and a cardigan. They didn’t say and it doesn’t mean, that Hook isn’t going to die. And even if he is, would they actually say that in an interview? Of course not! If I were A&E, that’s exactly what I would do. Answer as ambiguously as possible so it couldn’t be said later that I lied, and give snippets of info to add to the excitement of the upcoming episodes. Another thing I find suspicious was their statement about sometimes you revert back to who you were (or something to that effect). I can’t see Rumple or Regina reverting back to their old “villain” ways, but I could see Hook doing it. Rumple and Regina have both backslid in their arcs, only to finally be redeemed through great sacrifice. Have we seen this with Hook? The answer is no. Both of our villains have lived through their sacrifices, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t in danger of dying. Now, the lack of MRJ on set and lackluster answers to interview questions could be seen in a few ways. Either he is dead, and dead is dead and they dont want to spoil it. OR it’s not him. OR he does die and is brought back (they did say a death would be reversed). Personally, I think that he’s being kept very tight under wraps on purpose so the fandom has no idea whether or not he’s alive or dead. A&E have been very very careful this season about not spoiling too much (#nospoilers), fewer sneak peaks and script teases, no info during interviews. If Neal is the one that dies, then they did a terrible job of keeping that a secret, which is why I have a feeling everyone will be shocked when he’s not. The first episode hasn’t even aired yet, and we all know who the death is going to be? Either they’re really really bad at this, or they’re geniuses.
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runaroundmacy wrote: I’m going to start off by saying I am 100% prepared for Neal being the death. I always have an expect the worst attitude, so I won’t be disappointed. BUT that being said, I am really suspicious of the recent spoilers and interviews we’ve received lately (especially the one today). The wording that they choose are extremely ambiguous: “we won’t see that this year” could mean in the future, or it could mean not at all. “He’s not going anywhere” could mean for a while, not leaving SB, not going to another land. “eventually he will get a costume change”, could mean he’s in a flashback in his navy uniform, or a younger incarnation of Hook before Milah (pirates did add on to their clothes as they plundered). It doesn’t mean he’ll be in jeans and a cardigan. They didn’t say and it doesn’t mean, that Hook isn’t going to die. And even if he is, would they actually say that in an interview? Of course not! If I were A&E, that’s exactly what I would do. Answer as ambiguously as possible so it couldn’t be said later that I lied, and give snippets of info to add to the excitement of the upcoming episodes. Another thing I find suspicious was their statement about sometimes you revert back to who you were (or something to that effect). I can’t see Rumple or Regina reverting back to their old “villain” ways, but I could see Hook doing it. Rumple and Regina have both backslid in their arcs, only to finally be redeemed through great sacrifice. Have we seen this with Hook? The answer is no. Both of our villains have lived through their sacrifices, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t in danger of dying. Now, the lack of MRJ on set and lackluster answers to interview questions could be seen in a few ways. Either he is dead, and dead is dead and they dont want to spoil it. OR it’s not him. OR he does die and is brought back (they did say a death would be reversed). Personally, I think that he’s being kept very tight under wraps on purpose so the fandom has no idea whether or not he’s alive or dead. A&E have been very very careful this season about not spoiling too much (#nospoilers), fewer sneak peaks and script teases, no info during interviews. If Neal is the one that dies, then they did a terrible job of keeping that a secret, which is why I have a feeling everyone will be shocked when he’s not. The first episode hasn’t even aired yet, and we all know who the death is going to be? Either they’re really really bad at this, or they’re geniuses.
Well said! I couldn’t have put it better myself. Yes, Neal could be dead, in which case they’ve done a terrible job about keeping that under wraps. Or A&E are clever b@$t@rds who’re fantastic at trickery! For the time, I prefer to think of them as cunning you-know-whats.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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