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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
PriceofMagic wrote: I don’t think Neal will die, I think it will be Hook and here’s why:
This is really well-thought through and the reasoning seems very sound to me. I’m not ready to kiss Neal goodbye just yet.
@Lauren – I love your SF images. Do you think you could make a SF banner for me sometime? 🙂
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I agree with RG. The bit about how they have a story and a start and end, like CA to NY in mind is an analogy I thought of too. ALong the way there’ll be stops in mind with various characters they never necessarily knew they’d get. Yet they hinted that it could change things but all they really identified as major characters were Emma, Rumple and Regina. Interesting, because you’d think Snow and Charming were in there but that’s what they said. So those are there 3, 2 villians, 1 hero. Anyone else? Just a city along the way. Maybe that means SQ is the final deal for all we know, but at the moment? It isn’t looking good for Neal and it’s not feeling like the same tongue-in-cheek-wink-wink way it didn’t look good at the end of Season 2. On paper, it should look good for Neal. He came back from being shot, worked hard to get to Emma and Henry, and while Emma had fears, everyone rooted for her to put those aside and realize she could be more than the savior, even if not rooting for her to be with the same person as everyone else. Just as Rumple and Belle faced a permanent separation, the Charmings too from Emma, and Henry from one of his mothers and father, we all felt things would have to get better–it couldn’t stay that way! Now to come back to this season and we’d be rooting very hard for the hope to start pouring in, for the good things to start happening. Yet it sounds like they’re teeing up a Huntsman/August surprise for whatever reason, and Neal will be paying that price. I don’t think it was their original as in “chapter 1” intention. They talked too much about how stories change. I think when they came up with Season 2 there was a shift mid way through the earlier episodes, perhaps after their 2nd comic con, where they realized they needed to do certain things for fans. At SDCC, RH was a side character we shouldn’t expect to see again. At NY CC? Regina would be getting a surprising new love story. I just feel they realized Hook and Regina are two powerhouse characters (as is Rumple with Belle), and they have to “make them happy” to make the big fan blocks happy. So here we are, while there are a number of SQ Regina fans, there are more that are just “Regina happiness” fans and the fact Emma’s a woman isn’t a big deal to them and like any other Emma ship, she’s the protagonist, so has to be her. Yet if a new character comes in, and is given big stories and air time, should please those people (some of them of course). RH fits a little into Neal’s space as a good guy but still a thief, and as a father. He also fits a little in Hook’s as a fantasy chracter in leather with a bit of sass (and some mighty good looks that we see all too well thanks to WR”s poster there :P). I could see him stepping into the role either one plays in the cast, but ultimatley, I feel the way A&E are talking in interviews is just so devoid of excitement about Neal and full of excitement for Hook that it makes me feel doubtful about his future. I wish it were not that way. I adore Neal, and feel like if they’ve tugged on our heartstrings with Emma, they’ve doubly done it with Neal in how they presented him and as a fan who particpates online, with how much unnecessary hate he got. If people all along had just said, he made mistakes, tried to make up for it, but Hook’s tryint too and I just like him on screen visually–wouldn’t have been a big deal to me. Yet people kept trying to make Neal out as a monster, and Hook as a fluffy innocent bunny who never did a thing wrong. I didn’t ever feel “goodness” in terms of morality conferred some advantage when it came to what did or didn’t necessarily make a good love story–take a look at Rumbelle. No one’s pushing FrenchCricket or anything (HopperBelle?). Being a good guy doesn’t mean you’re an interesting romantic lead. I thought Neal’s story was interesting though, but it is angsty. There were things they had to develop with him to make it work but if they’re not interested in it because its not as marketable a character, because they’re “fighting’ visions from writers in the writers room and fans too–maybe even the actors involved, who knows. They certainly put a lot of clues in that they had a larger story in mind with Neal but if they’re setting up to cut him loose huntsman /august style, then none of the set-up has to pay off.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
@Lauren – I love your SF images. Do you think you could make a SF banner for me sometime?
sure any preference?
#BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #Fatesure any preference?
Maybe something with NYC in the background with Emma on one side and Neal on the other and the phrase “Going Home” written in cursive font in middle.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Lauren wrote: sure any preference?
Maybe something with NYC in the background with Emma on one side and Neal on the other and the phrase “Going Home” written in cursive font in middle.
that sounds adorable!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Heather wrote:I hereby declare that I am marrying PoM’s awesome post and thank you for writing that all out. I agree wholeheartedly with you. I also refuse to feel hopeless and depressed about S3B before the episodes even start airing again. We really don’t know anything yet so it’s pointless to allow all this pre-season stuff make us crazy. Hang in there everyone. *HUGS*
YES! POM’s post was amazing. I’m not letting my hopes be diminished anymore nor am I going to say goodbye prematurely to a character who has become as dear to my heart as Emma. No matter what, I’ll always have the dream of Tallahassee.
Just 4 more weeks until 3×12, which means just 4 more weeks until Emma rediscovers the dreamcatcher! *Hugs back at every SF fan!*
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Now I feel all guilty for being a Debbie Downer.
I just don’t want to be shocked and hurt if things go wrong.
But yea! Let’s have more positivity. And always believe that they’ll find their way home.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If Neal dies, that means that A&E will have sacrificed an original character. A character that they can do anything they want to, within the constraints of the 8 p.m. family hour, without checking with the character’s owners to make sure that a story arc or characterization is okay. That is huge. A&E would be doing that in order to keep Hook, the 3rd of 3 recoving villians who has limited ties to the Family. In fact, Adam just re-friendzoned Hook with Emma (tweet about never having called him a love interest of Emma’s) which weakens his ties to Emma. Okay, there was a lot of Hook in the article, but there is a lot of Hook in ALL of the articles. This is nothing new. This is actually one of the reasons that I think the death is Hook. I would not be surprised to find out that A&E’s love of Hook has waned in the instance upon outside people to force Hook into a main character position when his role was intended to compliment the main characters. That the death is a story line “demand” is a passive aggressive way for A&E to say that they are ready for the character in question to be dead. They control the story lines. The death seems to be to be a way to avoid the, “When is he coming back?” questions and allow for the show to move on.
On fan bases, to suggest that Hook will be saved due to fan demand is to hold the Hook fan base above all other character fan bases. I just don’t see Hook’s fan base having more influence over A&E than Regina’s fan base or Rumple’s. A couple of days ago I facetiously asked who has to tell Regina’s fans that Regina won’t be allowed to enjoy her upcoming romance because she has to help Henry mourn his father. Can you picture the fury? I would not want to be either Adam or Eddy. Also, Hooks fans have not been able to bring in the ratings, and that means they don’t have the power to break the show if they don’t get their way. ABC is in this for money, not any kind of love of Hook. I suspect that sometime within the next few weeks, the ABC marketing team in charge of pushing Hook for OUAT will have to explain the lack of return on investment in that decision. Advertisers are likely not happy with the show as they were likely promised higher ratings. The face if OUAT’s middling ratings is Hook, not Neal.
If anyone really wants me to believe that Neal dies, that person will need to show me MRJ’s contract with another show, plus official promotional pictures.
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