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February 11, 2014 at 10:42 am #244320
RumplesGirl
Keymaster#InLoveWithSlurpeezNewBanner (just so you know)
@Lauren you did a great job on that!
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 11, 2014 at 10:48 am #244322Slurpeez
Participant#InLoveWithSlurpeezNewBanner (just so you know)
@Lauren you did a great job on that!I love it too. Thanks a bunch!
Another good reply on Tumblr from Schmacky. I totally agree. I’ll just add a link to it though for some language reasons.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 11, 2014 at 10:56 am #244325RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnother good reply on Tumblr from Schmacky. I totally agree. I’ll just add a link to it though for some language reasons.
PREACH SCHMACKY! PREACH!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 11, 2014 at 11:12 am #244341Slurpeez
ParticipantRemember always to look for the good moments.
And you think having lunch with Neal would be a good moment? x
This story is so incomplete that it could not be resolved in just a few episodes. Emma and Neal have so much love for one another, yet have so many insecurities. They were on their way finally to sit down and just talk, but got interrupted. There is so much lack of resolution, which is why I’m almost certain their story is FAR from being over. Their story is most definitely a slow burn. As Schmacky said, if it weren’t going to happen, then it wouldn’t be happening in the present. From a narrative perspective, you don’t reintroduce an ex-lover just as part of a triangle only for the new guy to get the girl; you do it in order to show the first lovers’ journey home. The new love interest is usually the distraction, not the goal, of the story.
Also, in Emma and Neal’s case, their repeatedly declaring love for one another (to the point of excess some might say) is like hitting home that love is enough to overcome pain, especially in cases where the pain they both feel is from not being together. The only resolution to that kind of hurt in a story about happy endings is to face that pain head-on, not to run from it or to burry it in the sand. Emma must learn to face her fear of abandonment, just as Neal has been facing his fear of rejection. That is why Emma and Neal being together equals CHARACTER GROWTH for both of them. They’re better off together than they could ever be alone. Also, as Emma said, love is strength, and Emma and Neal love one another. They never ceased loving another and never will. Emma loves Neal, and she draws strength from that fact, just as she does her love for her son.
That is why any other contender ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things to the journey of Emma and Neal finding a way home again to each other. Every time I focus on just the narrative and stop worrying about the outside noise, that is when I see most clearly the story A&E are telling. I’m not phased anymore by rumors or popularity contests. All narrative signs point towards Emma and Neal rediscovering what family, belonging and home mean. Henry’s family always finds each other, and Henry’s family includes his biological parents, (obviously). In a story about second chances, too, it makes the most sense that our core heroine and her beloved would get another go at love together. *believe in second chances* *believe in home*
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 11, 2014 at 11:20 am #244342heatherc1275
ParticipantTHANK YOU SLURPEEZ! *marries Slurpeez’s awesome post* 😀
Back to watching the Olympics on my phone and pretending to work. 😉
#HopeforSwanFire #BELIEVE #TrueLove
#MoreBOOMLessGloomFebruary 11, 2014 at 11:21 am #244343RumplesGirl
KeymasterDaughter of the light. Son of the darkness.
The girl destined to break the curse. The boy the curse was created for.
For me, this is always one of the big selling points for SwanFire. It’s so utterly fairy tale and poetic; how could Adam an Eddy resist the idea that what heals the family and what heals the Enchanted Forest, are the two children who are at the center of it all? The idea of darkness and light coming together to create something NEW–it’s so fairy tale.
Which is my headcanon has always been (for quite some time now) that the real endgame of the show is a merging of the two worlds, blending together to form something new, with the power of SwanFire true love. That’s Emma’s real role as the Savior–breaking the Curse was part one. The real Savior moment will come when she heals the breech between the worlds using not only her status as True Love Incarnate but using the True Love she has found with Neal and Henry.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 11, 2014 at 11:41 am #244345Slurpeez
ParticipantWhich is my headcanon has always been (for quite some time now) that the real endgame of the show is a merging of the two worlds, blending together to form something new, with the power of SwanFire true love. That’s Emma’s real role as the Savior–breaking the Curse was part one. The real Savior moment will come when she heals the breech between the worlds using not only her status as True Love Incarnate but using the True Love she has found with Neal and Henry.
Beautiful heand-cannon is accepted. *Positive thoughts!*
You know why it ultimately doesn’t matter if not everyone loves Neal? It’s because EMMA LOVES HIM! And as Eddy Kitsis has said, hearing Emma say she loves someone is a very powerful thing. And as True Love incarnate, imagine the kind of power she could unleash when she finds her true love! We’ve already seen that Emma’s true love for her son was powerful enough to break the curse in S1. Might her love for Neal be strong enough to break this new curse? I have a hunch that might be exactly what happens. Eddy Kitsis has said that the man Emma truly loves in Neal. I think we’d better start taking Eddy at his word. 🙂
“It’s fun for us to have Emma on that ship with someone as handsome as Hook thinking the person she truly loves is dead, while he’s trying to get back to her,” – Eddy Kitsis (x)
In my humble opinion, A&E are just having a bit of fun by showing the “dalliance” between Emma and Hook. The only way that CS kiss was ever going to happen was when Emma thought Neal was dead. I think A&E are continuing to have fun by sending confusing messages: Emma and Henry live in Neal’s most recent hometown, she wakes up at 8:15, she listens to Neal’s sons “Charley’s Girl.” Yet, Hook, rather than Neal, showed up in NYC: they’re having a lot of fun toying with us! We all know that the most natural fit would’ve been for Neal, who is a native New Yorker, show up in his home city. Yet, instead there is a pirate in guy liner stalking Emma. It’s all a bit of fun at our expense, but we all know that Emma truly loves Neal. And only a true love kiss can break a curse. 🙂
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 11, 2014 at 11:59 am #244350RumplesGirl
Keymasterou know why it ultimately doesn’t matter if not everyone loves Neal? It’s because EMMA LOVES HIM! And as Eddy Kitsis has said, hearing Emma say she loves someone is a very powerful thing. And as True Love incarnate, imagine the kind of power she could unleash when she finds her true love! We’ve already seen that Emma’s true love for her son was powerful enough to break the curse in S1. Might her love for Neal be strong enough to break this new curse? I have a hunch that might be exactly what happens. Eddy Kitsis has said that the man Emma truly loves in Neal. I think we’d better start taking Eddy at his word.
If you can’t trust the show runner/creator then who can you trust?!
*#IBelieveAdamAndEddy
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 11, 2014 at 12:30 pm #244353lisas
ParticipantRemember always to look for the good moments.
And you think having lunch with Neal would be a good moment? x
This story is so incomplete that it could not be resolved in just a few episodes. Emma and Neal have so much love for one another, yet have so many insecurities. They were on their way finally to sit down and just talk, but got interrupted. There is so much lack of resolution, which is why I’m almost certain their story is FAR from being over. Their story is most definitely a slow burn. As Schmacky said, if it weren’t going to happen, then it wouldn’t be happening in the present. From a narrative perspective, you don’t reintroduce an ex-lover just as part of a triangle only for the new guy to get the girl; you do it in order to show the first lovers’ journey home. The new love interest is usually the distraction, not the goal, of the story.
Also, in Emma and Neal’s case, their repeatedly declaring love for one another (to the point of excess some might say) is like hitting home that love is enough to overcome pain, especially in cases where the pain they both feel is from not being together. The only resolution to that kind of hurt in a story about happy endings is to face that pain head-on, not to run from it or to burry it in the sand. Emma must learn to face her fear of abandonment, just as Neal has been facing his fear of rejection. That is why Emma and Neal being together equals CHARACTER GROWTH for both of them. They’re better off together than they could ever be alone. Also, as Emma said, love is strength, and Emma and Neal love one another. They never ceased loving another and never will. Emma loves Neal, and she draws strength from that fact, just as she does her love for her son.
That is why any other contender ultimately doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things to the journey of Emma and Neal finding a way home again to each other. Every time I focus on just the narrative and stop worrying about the outside noise, that is when I see most clearly the story A&E are telling. I’m not phased anymore by rumors or popularity contests. All narrative signs point towards Emma and Neal rediscovering what family, belonging and home mean. Henry’s family always finds each other, and Henry’s family includes his biological parents, (obviously). In a story about second chances, too, it makes the most sense that our core heroine and her beloved would get another go at love together. *believe in second chances* *believe in home*
OMG Slurpeez vey well put. I am marrying your post.
February 11, 2014 at 12:41 pm #244356CrownedWithLaurels
ParticipantNahhhhhh It would help if I didn’t keep trying to throw cold water on my shipmates. I’m honestly not trying to bring people down or have them defend SF to me (obviously there is no need for the latter). Is this hiatus over yet?
It’s ok!!! We all are there at some point! That’s what this thread is for! You may feel like you’re throwing cold water on us but we’re all cozy warm with our fire and are more than happy to throw some flames on anyone who needs 🙂 I know I’ve needed some lately! We all do at some point or another. I don’t want anyone to feel like they can’t come here and express their discouragement and the reasons for it. Especially because I know I need to come do that sometimes too! We are all stronger together.
Here, catch. *throws a flaming swan at RG*(a swan with magical properties so it doesn’t actually burn)
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