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Yeah, I don’t really see the logic in the argument that Walsh is proof that Emma can move on from Neal? This version of Emma has elements of the Emma we saw in S1. She still has scars from when Neal left her, and she still hasn’t had that moment of realisation when she saw him again in Manhattan. Her scars aren’t exactly the same as before, now that she believes she kept Henry all those years, she has an artificially altered version of her scars. S1 Emma had still had relationships post-Neal, maybe nothing serious, but it’s not like she was celibate. 312 Emma with the fake-memory-altered-scars has been open to a more serious relationship than S1 Emma had been, and that stands to reason really, but judging by her face in those pics, she’s still not prepared to completely commit to someone, because she’s freaking out and appears to run off. And part of that may well be that her love for Neal is still subconsciously buried inside her, even if she no longer remembers the “I never stopped loving him” realisation moment. Whatever else changed with her altered memories, the fact that she never stopped loving Neal would have remained the same.
When she does get her memories back, she’s gonna remember the Manhattan moment, and she’ll be a hot mess of conflicting emotions, even moreso than before, because now she doesn’t just have all the confusion over Neal in her head, she’s also got real feelings for Walsh on top of that. I’ve actually half wondered if maybe that finale wedding could be Emma and Walsh’s. There was a comment in one of the articles that suggested that Emma would potentially struggle to come to terms with accepting SB as her home. That could perhaps build up to her snapping and eventually accepting Walsh’s proposal. If the finale wedding IS theirs though, I’m gonna say that it doesn’t actually end up happening, and we’ll end up with an official SF reunion instead.
[adrotate group="5"]Hey remember that time Nealfire summoned a giant squid of doom and lassoed it like a BAMF and then went after Peter Pan and actually managed to rescue Henry before anyone else.
How could I forget the giant squid. Blech. But yes, Neal found Henry when he’d been in NL for about 5 minutes. Granted, he lost him again, but still, the rest of them had been there for days and gotten nowhere, and Neal managed to walk into camp, disable Pan and take Henry. He’s sorta awesome!
RumplesGirl wrote: Hey remember that time Nealfire summoned a giant squid of doom and lassoed it like a BAMF and then went after Peter Pan and actually managed to rescue Henry before anyone else.
How could I forget the giant squid. Blech. But yes, Neal found Henry when he’d been in NL for about 5 minutes. Granted, he lost him again, but still, the rest of them had been there for days and gotten nowhere, and Neal managed to walk into camp, disable Pan and take Henry. He’s sorta awesome!
“That’s why I didn’t coat the tip….”
#BOOM
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"About the pic with Neal and Snowing, I think that’s the first time he’s gonna insist on going to find Emma and Henry, and they’re telling him it’s not a good idea. I’d expect him to be totally confused and frustrated by their opinion on the matter. I don’t think what they say will make him want to get to Emma and Henry any less, but it might make him pause and doubt if he’d be doing the right thing. I’d find that believable because there’s so much confusion over what Emma does and doesn’t want from him, he doesn’t know she was going to the Diner to have lunch with him, he does know how it stirred up painful emotions for her during all that happened after they’d reconnected, because she told him that in the Echo Cave. I’d imagine all of that would play on his mind, and make him momentarily doubt his resolve to go after her because he doesn’t want to cause her any more pain, and Snowing have put it in his head that she’s 100% happy now and none of them should interrupt that. But not wanting to stir up painful memories for Emma is part of why he stayed away from SB after getting the postcard, and he ended up regretting that, and then ended up resolving to always fight for her. So I think that after some momentary confusion and doubts, he’s gonna decide that he does need to get to them no matter what. They might work some interactions between him and Belle into his working through it all, and she’ll help convince him not to give up on believing in the power of his love for Emma and Henry, just like she herself never gave up believing in her love with Rumple.
Phee wrote: 312 Emma with the fake-memory-altered-scars has been open to a more serious relationship than S1 Emma had been, and that stands to reason really, but judging by her face in those pics, she’s still not prepared to completely commit to someone, because she’s freaking out and appears to run off.
Yeah, those stills for 3×12 seem to suggest she’s just not ready to get engaged. Her face is not ebullient like one would expect of a woman itching to walk down the aisle. Her expression is hesitant, almost like she’s thinking of a former flame perhaps or wondering in the back of her mind if Walsh is the right guy. Maybe cursed Emma is just generally adverse to commitment right now to anyone, because in the back of her mind, she still wonders about who she really is and whether she’s really lovable. Besides Henry, no one has ever been there for her in her mind, because she still has huge abandonment issues. She doesn’t even recall who she is, where she comes from, or why Neal left her. She has not made peace with her past, and until she does, she can’t ever really move on (which is what I’ve been saying all along about why Emma needs to talk to Neal about their past). Right now, Emma doesn’t remember any of the important discoveries or the emotional progress she made. The poor woman probably isn’t in any position to feel positive about the future when she can’t even remember the past. She is probably still full of insecurity, questions and “what-ifs” about Neal and her parents.Phee wrote: I’ve actually half wondered if maybe that finale wedding could be Emma and Walsh’s. There was a comment in one of the articles that suggested that Emma would potentially struggle to come to terms with accepting SB as her home. That could perhaps build up to her snapping and eventually accepting Walsh’s proposal. If the finale wedding IS theirs though, I’m gonna say that it doesn’t actually end up happening, and we’ll end up with an official SF reunion instead.
Yeah, I’ve been wondering about the wedding being for Emma and Walsh, too. Maybe Emma does get fed up with the madness in SB and thinks getting married to a seemingly “normal guy” is the solution. Maybe marriage for Emma could be like an emergency exit strategy. (However, the “splashy” comment still has me wondering if the wedding is for Ariel and Eric). Yet, for argument’s sake, let’s say Emma does accept Walsh’s proposal. Who is he really? It seems like he might really have a fairytale connection or even be working for or against the Wicked Witch. I’m hoping he’s not a flying monkey but is someone more important like the Wizard of Oz or even the son of Dorothy. Maybe Emma will be conflicted about marrying Walsh when she realizes he hasn’t been transparent with her. Maybe that is when Neal will re-enter Emma’s life and she’ll again realize that she never stopped loving him. Like Phee said, she may even make it as far as the alter and then realize she’s making a huge mistake and then bail on her own wedding to run off with Neal instead. That would be a dramatic season finale. However, I hope that isn’t how it unfolds, because I want Emma to reunite with Neal much sooner than the finale. I’d hate for the rest of the season to unfold without Neal and Emma ever getting to have the lunch date.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Ok, I can’t quote for some reason. UGH
@Phee: I think you’re exactly right. It would be very in Neal’s character to hesitate because he wants Emma to have her happy ending. He’ll never stop fighting for Emma to have her happy ending, even if that means without him. But I *love* the idea of a conversation with Belle helps him.
@Slurpeez108 I have also been wondering if the wedding of Swalsh/MonkeySwan/Walswan (whatever) might be the season finale Keck spoiled. They’ve never really explored how a Cursed! Character feels about someone they were romantically involved with after the curse ends—David and Katheryn for example. Friends? And Emma does care about him, even if she’s not wholly ready in 3×12 to marry Walsh. But obviously the wedding won’t go through (Gorham is on another show, after all). but I also agree that I don’t really want it to play out that way. S4 is probably our last and Emma needs to be with her choice before then so that they can start developing them as a couple to get to happily ever after by 4×22"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Phee wrote: I’d imagine all of that would play on his mind, and make him momentarily doubt his resolve to go after her because he doesn’t want to cause her any more pain, and Snowing have put it in his head that she’s 100% happy now and none of them should interrupt that. But not wanting to stir up painful memories for Emma is part of why he stayed away from SB after getting the postcard, and he ended up regretting that, and then ended up resolving to always fight for her.
I think Neal loves Emma just as much as Snow and Charming do in that they all want the best for Emma. If Emma’s happy ending really were without any of them, then I think they’d all sacrifice their own wish to be with her for her and Henry’s sakes. We saw Snow and Charming make that sacrificial decision in the pilot when they put baby Emma in the wardrobe, so that she’d have her best chance, which almost exactly parallels the difficult decision Neal made in Tallahassee to sacrifice his idea of a happy ending with Emma to get her home. In Broken, Emma did not fully realize that her parents made that decision so they’d eventually all be together, since if they’d kept her, they all would have been eternally cursed and therefore separated (or worse, since Regina wanted to kill baby Emma). Sending baby Emma to our world may have been ill-advised (since really, who puts a newborn in a wardrobe alone), but it was a desperate, last-ditched, believe-in-destiny kind of decision. Emma then realized in Lady of the Lake that Snow made that difficult decision to protect Emma, the same way that Emma made that decision to give Henry his best shot. Likewise, Emma told her parents in Nasty Habits that she’s never stopped loving Neal and now realizes he never stopped loving her either. It’s just her fate to have been made the savior, but what Emma does in spite of that label is what will ultimately decide her destiny about whether she can now forgive her parents and Neal and enjoy the good moments they all have together. Emma has to decide whether to embrace her heritage and then fight for her own happy ending. Having said all that, I do agree though that Neal has learned a lot since Broken and that he ultimately realizes that it’s up to him now to get his family home. He doesn’t want to be without them ever again. He probably also realizes that the pain of remembering is worth it if it means getting to be a family again.
Phee wrote: So I think that after some momentary confusion and doubts, he’s gonna decide that he does need to get to them no matter what. They might work some interactions between him and Belle into his working through it all, and she’ll help convince him not to give up on believing in the power of his love for Emma and Henry, just like she herself never gave up believing in her love with Rumple.
I love the notion that Belle is going to help inspire Neal to seek out Emma. I think Neal is ultimately going to listen to Belle on this one and realize that despite what Charming and Snow think is best for Emma, when you find something worth fighting for, you never give up. Neal is no longer crippled by his own fear of rejection, because deep down, he now realizes that the biggest regret of his life was *not* going after Emma after she’d broken the curse. He took the easy way out once before, and he’s not going to make that mistake again. If there is one thing Neal has learned as a result, it’s that you don’t hold in love for someone; you say it. I really love the notion that Neal’s story arc in S3b is going to be about earning a second chance and fighting for his happy ending, which arguably is is Emma’s and Henry’s idea of a happy ending, too. I think Emma’s character arc will likewise parallel Neal’s journey as she realizes that she too must let go of her fear of abandonment to find home.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
*applauds Phee, Slurpeez, and RG for all their awesome thoughts today* 😀 😀 😀 😀
#BOOM from the BAMF (“That’s why I didn’t coat the tip” may be one of my favorite lines from the entire show) 😉
#MoreBOOMLessGloomHey Gang wait up for me. I’m trying to keep up I was up all night working my storyboards & my script which I’m happy to report is finally turned in.
Here is some pretties to remind us that Neal will see Emma & Henry Again
Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick
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