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Baelfire means bonfire doesn’t it? Forget the lighters, I’m making bonfires (but I am not going to cut my shadow off after I do!).
[adrotate group="5"]“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Heather, Phee, and Kfchimera all raise excellent points about Neal. He gets all the hate for trying to act selflessly even in an impossible set of circumstances, whereas traditional villains like Rumple, Regina and Hook get a tone a sympathy for acting selfishly. It does NOT make sense! Anyway, all your pro-Neal points are making me remember all the reasons I converted from a CS-crush to a SF epic-love story.
I can say, from Neal’s perspective, that he feels Emma is his one true love,” Raymond-James said. (source: Examiner)
This is why I love MRJ. As an actor, he clearly gets and empathizes with Neal and his love for Emma. CSers can convince themselves that Tamara was Neal’s true love all they want, but I take my cues from the actor who knows Neal best. Emma is Neal’s intended.
I’m going to re-post the official ABC “Who is Baelfire” video here as a great reminder of the reasons we all pair Baelfire with Emma. The fact that Eddy and Adam call Neal leaving Emma a self-sacrifice is HUGE. Neal was as much as victim of the curse as Emma and her family were because Neal missed out having a family with Emma and Henry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9KzRHkVP-c"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Good Morning Everyone,
Let me jump in here on this debate for a moment if that is okay. I personally believe that Neal & Emma are each other’s true love and they are endgame like Snow & Charming, Rumple & Belle. There are just to many signs that point in that direction the first one being Henry’s Birth as we all saw during the season 3 premiere “The Heart Of The Truest Believer” Henry was born at exactly 8:15 PM at the exact moment of his birth lights flickered, went out for a brief second and came back on, which I think makes him like Emma The product of true love which means maybe he does have some magical abilities. We know Emma can do magic and as we all so see in the premiere so can Neal if he so chooses to tap in to his blood magic.
Even after Emma was arrested I don’t think she ever once came clean and mentioned Neal so that tells me that she she still loved him regardless of being set up by both August & Neal. Once she got out of jail she took the bug went to Tallahassee I assume she went there to try and find Neal. We know that she was there for two years. If she didn’t love Neal she would have not even went to Tallahassee in the first place to search for him which is what I believe did.
Emma kept the yellow bug that was the only link she had to Neal and to some extent the son she had to give up. If she didn’t love Neal then she would have gotten rid of the bug right away
Emma kept the Swan keychain that Neal got for her, she never took off except in Manhattan when she gave it back to Neal because she was hurt and angry. Which to me is understandable kneejerk reaction to the event of finding out that it was Neal who is Rumple’s son and as well as the finding out why Neal did what he did to her.
Even throughout the rest of season 2 she still loved Neal but was in denial of that love because I felt she didn’t want to get hurt again. We saw how she was willing to prove to Neal that Tamara was not the person he believed she was. We all saw how hard Emma was willing to fight for Neal after he was shot. We saw the the determination she had to hold on to Neal when she finally admited to him that she needed him & Loved him.
We seen in Tallahassee how much Neal loved her. Even after he tried to loose himself in Canada he couldn’t forget Emma. He even wanted Emma to have to bug & the money from the watches. The Bug Emma did get but I think we can conclude that August took the money that was meant for Emma. Neal even told August that it should have been him doing the time instead of Emma. Neal even told Augustt that If Emma was successful in breaking the curse he wanted to go to her when she was free of that insanity. August did send him a postcard of Storybrooke saying one word “Broken”
We know that Neal still loved Emma even before he met Tamara in that flashback scene with August in “Welcome To Storybrooke” But I think Mulan had it right in The Heart Of The Truest Believer that Neal’s fear of Emma rejecting him overshadowed his love for her. Which Neal admitted was the worst mistake of his life Even while he was with Tamara I have the feeling he never really loved her and that was evident. I personally think he was trying to be honorable and do right by Tamara even though he loved someone else. Because that is just the type of person he is.
Rumple even called Neal out about it when he told Neal in “Second Star To The Right” That he and Tamara were not going to last because he was carrying a torch for Emma, Rumple did the same exact thing to Emma in New York when he told her that she wanted a second chance with Neal.
Even Snow could she Emma still loved Neal and even said as much which caused Emma to deny that she still had feelings for Neal.
I think it was clear to both David & Snow especially to David at the end of “Second Star To The Right” that Emma really loved Neal you could really see that in her grief and the way David just held her and kissed her head like any parent would in a case like that.
Even in the season premiere you could see in Emma’s how much she truly loves Neal especially when Hook gave Emma Bae’s sword. We saw just how much Neal was willing to fight to get back to Emma by going to Rumple’s castles, looking for a magical item to find out if she was okay but discovered she was in Neverland and now he is determined to go there.
My point is that even if something happens with Emma & Hook I think it will be one sided from Hook’s side because Emma is focused on getting Henry back she doesn’t seem interested plus she is still grieving for Neal. Personally I think when Neal & possibly RH get to Neverland we may see Hook back off and stand aside for Neal & Emma to work things out because I don’t think Hook would want to repeat the past by doing to Neal & Henry what he to Rumple & Bae/Neal.
I believe it will take Neal & Emma together to rescue Henry from PP
Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking StickThe actors have to be so careful, and I think if MRJ was cleared to say from his perspective Emma is his one-true-love, then we are pretty safe in thinking he is not getting paired with anyone else, but of course, they don’t have J.Mo saying the same thing so there’s the optical illusion again.
We know there’s “feelings” from Hook, true-love from Neal and “love for Neal but she thinks he is dead” on Emma’s part. The door is open for CS, and always there is the possibility that the writers might do something to Neal, kill him or make him the next Dark One or something. Every time Phee talks about 307, especially with Daniel theorizing someone is going to die, I cringe. I don’t want to turn into chicken little but I really hope Neal gets to NL sooner and that 307 is about TinkerBell so that she’s the one that gets the axe. I like her from the clip and all, but of our new characters, I feel she’s the most dispensable in some ways. What if as part of a pan-style mind game, Pan offers Hook or Regina that “next-love-detector” pixie dust–but only if they leave Henry and stop helping Emma?
Hm that ought to be on another thread but not sure where to ask that question.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Like I said kfchimera I think that Hooks feelings for Emma are going to be one-sided. Right now Emma is focused on getting Henry back she doesn’t seem interested in Hook. I think there may end up being a CaptainSwan moment but I think Hook might show enough honor to actually stand aside and let Neal work things out with Emma & Henry because he doesn’t want to repeat the mistakes he made in the past with Milah and the pain it caused Bae & Rumple. I think Hook is changing but I think it has more to do with Emma’s friendship then anything else.
Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking StickThe actors have to be so careful, and I think if MRJ was cleared to say from his perspective Emma is his one-true-love, then we are pretty safe in thinking he is not getting paired with anyone else, but of course, they don’t have J.Mo saying the same thing so there’s the optical illusion again.
Yes all three actors–MRJ, Colin, and JMo–have been really careful about the way they phrase. JMo never says anything about how Emma feels except that she’s focused on Henry. Colin only talks about Hook and MRJ only speaks about Neal’s perspective. Very diplomatic of them.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The actors have to be so careful, and I think if MRJ was cleared to say from his perspective Emma is his one-true-love, then we are pretty safe in thinking he is not getting paired with anyone else, but of course, they don’t have J.Mo saying the same thing so there’s the optical illusion again. We know there’s “feelings” from Hook, true-love from Neal and “love for Neal but she thinks he is dead” on Emma’s part. The door is open for CS, and always there is the possibility that the writers might do something to Neal, kill him or make him the next Dark One or something. Every time Phee talks about 307, especially with Daniel theorizing someone is going to die, I cringe. I don’t want to turn into chicken little but I really hope Neal gets to NL sooner and that 307 is about TinkerBell so that she’s the one that gets the axe. I like her from the clip and all, but of our new characters, I feel she’s the most dispensable in some ways. What if as part of a pan-style mind game, Pan offers Hook or Regina that “next-love-detector” pixie dust–but only if they leave Henry and stop helping Emma? Hm that ought to be on another thread but not sure where to ask that question.
What’s the deal with episode 7?
Keeper of Hook and Emma's smoldering first kiss, a certain Pirate's sauciness, the Evil Queen's snarkiness, Grumpy's gruffness and a drop of true love to make it all go down smooth.
What’s the deal with episode 7?
Given some spoilers we’re pretty sure it’s the story of how YoungBae got out of NL. Wendy Darling is set to appear again. So given those spoilers we think Neal will most likely be in NL by 307, though most of us now think it will be much sooner but that he’ll be with Rumple for awhile
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"A lot of SwanFire feels for a Saturday morning. 🙂
If you ask Emma before Neal died why she kept the necklace and the bug, she’d probably tell you they were reminders to herself never to trust anyone again, like she said to Neal in “Manhattan”. I’ve had a lot of bad things happen in my life, but I’m not keeping mementoes of them to harden me. She doesn’t like anyone to see any weakness in her. I was actually really proud of her in “Lost Girl” to admit that she was an orphan and all alone. She’s the type to crow that she’s strong enough not to need anyone, but she’s really the little lost girl looking for someone to love her. So while she might have said those reasons for keeping the car and necklace, it would probably be only in the dark at night alone in bed with the covers pulled over would that she be free enough to admit that she kept them because they remind of the one time in her life she was truly happy.
I love you guys because if I explained all my feelings to someone who never watched the show they’d be wanting to lock me up like they did to Alice on Wonderland.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
What’s the deal with episode 7?
Ep 7 is considered a little bit cursed, because in S1 it was the Graham centric, (dead) and in S2 it was a Red centric, (then her role got decreased). I don’t fear the ep 7 curse for Neal though, because if they wanted to get rid of him, they’d have done it when they shot him and chucked him down a portal.
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