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Found this theory on Tumblr. Thought it was interesting
This theory was made by friends on Swanfire br group. I helped a little, but they did the hard work haha :
“We were thinking and thinking and trying to understand what Neal would be so important and so deleted?
And a new theory emerged.
And if Neal is the Wizard of OZ?1 – He has told Emma that our world was not the only world he had been, and soon discovered that he was in Neverland.
And if after NL, he had been in OZ? And if this is the link to the WW?
We know that the Wizard of OZ does not use magic, he uses tricks.2 – What if his skill with tricks was inherited from his grandfather?
After all, we do not know who was/is Neal Cassidy .. We do not know what he knows.3 – The first time Neal appeared on the scene, the first time that his apartment was shown, there was a pair of shoes hanging on the wall.:
4 – On this same photo, if you look, there is a drawing of a heart .. It would be a reference to the Tin Man?
5 – Next to shoes, there is a shelf full of books. Would be to give the idea of intelligence, brain? Making a reference to the scarecrow?
6 – And the yellow Bug? Had something to do with the yellow brick road?
7 – One thing constant also in the apartment is the presence of the number 13:
Could be a symbolism the time when Bae was still happy with his papa? (Rumple becomes the Dark One in Bae’s 14th birthday )
Or is it a reference to door number 13 that appears to lead to OZ? (inside the Mad Hatter’s hat)EDIT: “That same episode featured the Mad Hatter (Sebastian Stan) taking the Evil Queen (Lana Parrilla) through a portal into a room full of doors, one of which leads to Wonderland. “There are many different doors and I might’ve seen a green curtain,” Kitsis says coyly, referring to the Wizard of Oz (played by Frank Morgan in the 1939 film) hiding behind a green curtain to mask his true identity. (Check out screen grab of the Oz symbol on the curtain here.)
“As we said in the episode with Wonderland, the Mad Hatter talks about all these worlds,” Horowitz adds. “We’re very excited about the possibilities for where we could show.””
8 – The apartment is green, including TV … would be some reference to the Emerald City?
9 – Bae says he could leave Neverland because it was held in the shadow, and the shadow had taken him to OZ? Where he would have “fallen” as if it was from the balloon, as the original story?
11 – In the original story of Oz, the Magic is from the city of Omaha. Neal’s map when Emma and him invaded the apartment, in Tallahassee, has the reference of Omaha.”
How Neal arrived in the U.S.? Does after leaving the world of Oz, Neal ended up in Omaha, Nebraska City?
12 – What do we know about the Wizard of Oz book and movie:
- Stay / Governs in the Emerald City.
- He have no real magic.
- His resource are tricks.
- When falling from the clouds, the inhabitants of Oz have believed that he was a someone with powers.
- He’s afraid of witches.
- Uses the town, tricks and fame of great magic to protect himself.
- He was revered by his subjects, but was never seen by them.
- Famous phrase from the movie: “Pay attention to the man behind the curtain”
– From the doors of the worlds appeared in episode 1×17, the door of Oz has always been pointed out as one of the green curtains, side by side of the door that leads to the Wonderland.
13 – WWoW and their connection with two characters: one is Regina. And the other would be Neal?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Interesting Theory RG
Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking StickI’m not 100% sold on him being the Wizard but I do think he’s probably in Oz.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Lisa, how brilliant!
RumplesGirl you rock! Thank You for finding this lovely picture. I am also amazed at Scmacky’s artistic eye. The participants from ALL the forums are so creative and talented.
BTW, every time I see those cool pictures of MRJ, a song pops into my mind..
“I want Candy…..” by Bow Wow Wow.
…I know a guy who’s tough but sweet
…He’s so fine he can’t be beat
…He’s got everything that I desire
…Sets the summer’s sun on fire
…I want Candy….I want Candy
…Go to sea when the sun go down
…Ain’t no finer boy in town
…You’re my guy who walked up to order
…So sweet you make my mouth water
…I want Candy….I want Candy
…Candy on the beach there’s nothing better
…But I like Candy when it’s wrapped in a sweater
…Some day soon I’ll make you mine
…And I’ll have candy all the time
…I want Candy….I want Candy
Check it out on You Tube.Thanks again, RG :o)
Thanks again, RG :o)
No problem!
Love the song. 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"So I was thinking about my SwanFire fandom tonight and went back to see some of my first posts on this board and ironically, here is a post that I wrote somewhere in a Manhattan thread just about a year ago. I bolded the part that I find hilarious after what has to be the world’s longest hiatus! 😉 BTW-Happy One Year Anniversary to me!! 😀
February 23, 2013 at 5:09 am heatherc1275 – Participant
This thread, the Tallahassee Neal lovefest thread, and knowing there were other SwanFire fans to talk to is what made me want to start posting here! One other place where I talk with other fans is all about Hook and Emma and the other one is obsessed with Rumbelle (which is their prerogative of course) but I have a soft spot for Neal and Emma and have since their story was told in Tallahassee. I just love them together and totally agree that they are probably endgame, but of course their journey back to each other isn’t going to be easy. Why would these guys make anything easy for us?! They’re going to drive us all totally bonkers, LOL
Fave Neal/Emma Moment from Manhattan: When they first meet in the alley and are surprised to see each other. I swear I’ve re-watched that scene more times than I care to admit and I crack up at Emma’s pouty thing when Neal walks away and at her comment, “HEY, I am the only one who gets to be angry right now!” every single time!
Before I get too far into this essay, here’s some history about me and my general OUAT fandom. I started off watching OUAT right from the pilot so I’m not a new fan of this show. I loved it right from the get go. I’ve actually talked about it in many different places online since I started watching it. I joined up with a Facebook OUAT page that I barely post in anymore simply because I don’t go on FB all that much (and they were the folks obsessed with Rumbelle and didn’t always talk about the rest of the show so I eventually lost interest as I didn’t have many friends there who wanted to chat about the rest of the show). The fandom was SO much fun and I enjoyed talking about this show with so many fans. I lived through the nightmare that being part of the Lost fandom became and figured I was safe watching OUAT since the fans weren’t as rabid as Lost fans were back then (whoops….wrong thinking on my part, LOL). Little did I know what was coming, LOL 😆
At any rate, my favorite character on this show is Emma. It has been since she whacked that bail jumper’s head on his steering wheel. I loved her energy, her sass, her quick thinking, her strength, her resilience, and her warm but very broken heart. I watched her quietly light that candle on her birthday cupcake and lament that she was spending another birthday alone. It just captured my heart and I instantly knew I was going to be rooting hard for her to find her happy ending. I love all the characters on this show but I identify with Emma a lot more than any of the others because I share a sense of that feeling of abandonment having grown up with a very absentee father (even though we live in the same city, he has never been all that interested in me). That does cause a certain pain inside you that never goes away although there are things that can help a person not feel so alone including a puppy eyed thief with a great smile. 😉
Which brings me to how I got to my SwanFire fandom but let me back up for one more thing. I actually loved Emma & Graham so much in season one. He made her smile, he was charming, he treated her well, and even through his cursed persona, he somehow found the strength to stand up to Regina and get himself out of his bad situation. I loved that her affection for him and the fact that she’s true love incarnate helped him get his memories back. I wasn’t spoiled at all for his death so it took me by total surprise when he died in Emma’s arms. That broke my heart and I cried so much for them. It was around this time that I started wondering more about her dating history and specifically about Henry’s father (count me as another who had a feeling Rumple’s long lost son was Henry’s dad after we found out what happened to him later in the season). Emma was so closed off towards love and I wondered why for a long time until we saw True North and she talked about Henry’s father for the first time. I didn’t believe her false story about him for a minute but I also didn’t believe what she told MM either. I figured he fell somewhere in the middle and something had to have happened that broke her heart and helped put up those walls.
Cue Tallahassee. We had met that mystery guy in Broken and I just KNEW he was going to be Henry’s father (and Baelfire too but that’s a whole other essay). I watched most of Tallahassee with a big smile on my face because Emma & Neal were SO charming, so in love, so young, so determined to make a life together, and so hoping to be the family to each other that both of then hadn’t had for most of their lives. I’ll admit that I enjoyed Emma’s interactions with Hook in that episode as well but that was back when I actually liked Hook because he was written as an actual villain and their snarking back and forth was hilarious, but with Neal it was SO innocent and pure and it was just enjoyable to see Emma SO happy. Happy. Emma was happy. EMMA WAS HAPPY! We hadn’t really seen Emma truly happy since the show started so to see her smiling, joking, laughing, loving her life even though they had nothing….it just warmed my heart so much and even though I hate the term shipping because of the negative connotations, I full out became a SwanFire shipper after Tallahassee because I wanted to see Emma that HAPPY again. No one else has made her smile like she does in my avatar since Neal, no one else makes her eyes light up like he does, no one else loves their son like him, and no one else will ever have her heart the way Neal does and it scares the crap out of her. By the time we got to Manhattan, I was fully convinced that Emma & Neal were the real life fairytale and the biggest story that A&E were telling us and I wanted to then and still want to see now where it’s going to go next. It’s special, it’s real, it’s raw, it’s beautiful, it’s painful, and in the words of A&E, it’s POETRY. 🙂
Wow. That was a lot longer than I planned it to be but I’ve been slightly distracted by Grey’s and Scandal tonight so I had to type things up fast during commercials. Sorry if something doesn’t make sense, LOL 😆 😉
#MoreBOOMLessGloomI just shared this theory with Kellyn1604. She brought up two interesting points. 1) How did Neal know that Rumple had the crystal ball from Oz in his castle” 2) How did Neal know how to use it?
Just a little more amo supporting Neal/Oz theory. 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
Wow. That was a lot longer than I planned it to be but I’ve been slightly distracted by Grey’s and Scandal tonight so I had to type things up fast during commercials. Sorry if something doesn’t make sense, LOL
That was great!!!! Love what you had to say 🙂
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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