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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • October 17, 2013 at 1:51 pm #216658
    Slurpeez
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    3) I can’t decide how much Emma knows re: Hook/Milah post new 304 peek But I’m betting the truth comes out. Not sure how much she’s going to care honestly. I can see her being a little off put but she also kisses Hook in 305 so I’m not sure anymore

    Emma’s pretty bright. She knows that Neal loved a woman named Milha. She realizes now that Hook spent a lot of time with Bae and knew something about his mother. I’m guessing that Emma has yet to learn the full truth though about WHY Rumple killed Hook’s love (i.e. that Hook had an affair with Bae’s mother). I think that Emma won’t learn the entire story until AFTER she kisses Hook and that she’ll hear the details from Neal once she discovers he’s alive.

    I hope so Mick, also I just had this thought on the Believe poster.  His hand is in his pocket, holding the Swan Necklace.

    *Sobs yes*

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm #216659
    RumplesGirl
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    I hope so Mick, also I just had this thought on the Believe poster. His hand is in his pocket, holding the Swan Necklace.

    I really hope that’s true!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 17, 2013 at 1:57 pm #216660
    Twice Upon A Time
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    I know we’re supposed to be all ship friendly but is anybody else’s shipper heart hurting because of the picture

    October 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm #216663
    Phee
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    Mickstemp wrote:

    ther Swanthief flashback after watching that sneak peek. Emma had a similar reaction when she spotted the dream catcher in his apt. I wouldn’t be surprised if Neal made a similar make shift night light that mimicked the constellation when they were together. Her reaction seemed nostalgic and familiar.

    Maybe but I think the nostalgia comes mostly from remembering Neal and wishing she could have had a second chance to get to know him better. Emma says to Hook, “You must’ve known him really well,” in a wishful sort of way, like she wishes she could’ve known all the sides of Baelfire. *feels*

    Well lucky for Emma, she’s gonna get that chance after all. 😉

    I would die if some day we get a flashback where he made a similar light when they were together.

    I hope so Mick, also I just had this thought on the Believe poster. His hand is in his pocket, holding the Swan Necklace.

    WAAAAHHHHHH, FEEEEEEEEELLLLLLSSSSSS!

    Not sure how much she’s going to care honestly.

    I think she might care more in the sense of, “You had multiple times to tell me this in the past week, Hook, but I had to wait and hear it from Neal. Why weren’t you just honest with me? Were you ever gonna tell me?”

    October 17, 2013 at 2:08 pm #216665
    Phee
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    I know we’re supposed to be all ship friendly but is anybody else’s shipper heart hurting because of the picture

    Honestly, I’m not really worried. This is gonna happen during the time when she still thinks Neal is dead, and it’s gonna be a heat of the moment type thing, and I really can’t see CS continuing to make out by the campfire once Neal is around, so I think it’s probably gonna be a one off. It won’t be too long until WE are the ship who gets to rejoice over seeing our pair side by side again.

    October 17, 2013 at 2:24 pm #216672
    Phee
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    As to Bae’s poster, noticed everyone has an object that’s highlighted and his is the only one that doesn’t have one. The only thing that stands out is his hand in that one pocket. These posters aren’t random and the objects were chosen to represent the characters overall arc. Between his tagline (which pretty much speaks for itself) and choosing to physically show the necklace I think would be a bit much and lose the emotional impact of the reveal later in the season.

    I love your logic! 🙂

    October 17, 2013 at 2:29 pm #216674
    kfchimera
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    Just saying, if Han Solo/Wes is the model for Hook, doesn’t mean Buttercup/Leia is Emma.  In fact, I kind of think it’s more mixed around in true OUAT fashion.   Hook and Emma might kiss, but so did Leia and Luke.  Context is everything.    They aren’t changing the names and telling the same stories.   They might inject the “DNA” in building a character archetype/plot but they are not just playing out a formula here.

    I always saw Hook as more like Ignio/Lando and I stand by that.  He’s trying hard, and I do think he will reform and be best buddies –but doesn’t mean he has to get the girl or that he is even going to want to try, or that she wants him to try.  Whether he takes a step back because of the “Bro code” principle, or because Emma is just not that into him, or because he realizes Neal and Emma actually are true love,  in the end, he can be a hero without being Emma’s love.  If he is who she wants, well, the story will have to start showing us that she is reciprocating and seeing these other grand things in him, and showing us where Neal’s second chance is if it is not with her, and where Emma’s home is, if it is not with Neal.  There’s no way to “logically” say what these answers are as it is a story, and there are parts to the story we do not know.   Based on what we do know–I am going to believe Neal gets his second chance to find a  Home with Emma (Henry and the  rest too!).

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    October 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm #216681
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Watching 3×1 and 3×4 sneak peak with Rumple and Bae Rumple: Your still just a bail bonds person looking for evidence. Well Dearie, that’s not going to work in Neverland.
    Emma: I’ll do whatever it takes

    ——————————————–
    Rumple: You don’t have the stomach either
    Bae: I’ll do what needs to be done

    ——————————————– Surprised I didn’t catch this earlier.

    Nice catch!!!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    October 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm #216684
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    So, over in the sneak peek thread for 3×4 we’ve been discussing Bae’s star map and how it could be an image of the phoenix constellation. Needless to say, that would be highly symbolic if Bae’s map is what leads Emma home and that the phoenix could represent their love being reborn. *SF feels* Okay, I need official confirmation about what constellation it is on the map.

    Remember the star map comes from a coconut, which comes from a palm tree, form which the phoenix rises.

    Also, Ginny Goodwin might’ve been giving a shout-out to SF and Harry Potter (both of which she is a big fan) by mentioning the phoenix:

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    October 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm #216701
    CrownedWithLaurels
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    Wow. Both taglines relate to each other, and she has his sword and he has her necklace.

     

     

    WOW. <3 <3 <3

    Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

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