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That sense of familiarity when Emma walks into Neal’s apartment..I think it’s a direct contrast to that fact that she didn’t feel any sort of recognition with Hook in 3×11. There was nothing there between them. But with Neal, even just his things, it’s instantaneous.
Some people say there is this connection between Hook and Emma, but personally, I think there is a much deeper, intuitive understanding between Emma and Neal. They both were lost children who found each other in an otherwise lonely world. They were thieves together. They found a home in one another. Both Neal and Emma dreamt of their parents coming for them, and both lived sad existences on their own until they met. Emma is always saying things like, “Neal taught me that.” In 3×4, all Emma had to do was see tally marks on a cave wall to know that he’d stopped counting when he’d given up hope of getting out of NL. Hook then tried to redirect the attention to himself by using line that he knew what it meant to lose hope too, and Emma totally called him out on it saying she knew what he was doing. It’s just too forced with Hook. Yet, with Neal, things come naturally, like they’re second nature to her.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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Hook: Snow and the Queen settled their differences. I was bored. I had a life to get back to.
Hook needs excitement, danger, adventure. And of course!! He’s a pirate after all (never stopped being one). But here he is talking to a woman who is in mourning for her lost quiet life, the things she wants but can never have. She wants to make eggs and wear funny pants and play video games.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"in a direct follow up to this
Emma; I see you haven’t changed
The look in Hook’s eye, “oh shoot! panic! SEDUCE! SEDUCE!” so cue awkward “there was nothing for me…” bit. He suddenly realized that what he is saying isn’t what Emma wants to hear.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"AHHHHHHHHH the memory flashes!!!!!!!! Come on!!! So significant that the CS kiss wasn’t in there!!!! It really WAS just a kiss to her!
I think that kiss meant way more to Hook than it did to Emma, but he was hoping when he kissed her in 3×11 that it would be otherwise. Emma, as true love incarnate, seems to have that effect on people. It had that effect on Graham, yet that didn’t mean it was true love for Emma and him either. It just meant she’s really really powerful and intoxicating. People want to be in love, and she embodies love. It’s only natural people would be drawn to her. Yet, the man whom Emma loves is and probably always will be Neal.
Hook: Snow and the Queen settled their differences. I was bored. I had a life to get back to.
Hook needs excitement, danger, adventure. And of course!! He’s a pirate after all (never stopped being one). But here he is talking to a woman who is in mourning for her lost quiet life, the things she wants but can never have. She wants to make eggs and wear funny pants and play video games.
Yes, and it adds another contrast between the way Hook and Neal operate. Hook prefers to go it alone without any family ties while Neal is very much a family man and has always dreamt of having a family of his own: with his Papa, with the Darlings, with Emma and also now with Henry. True, Emma was a loner like Hook is, but Emma prefers family whereas Hook actually seems to like solitude because he opted to forego a chance to bond with Emma’s parents. Neal, by contrast, kept close to MamaBelle and the grandparents of his son. They’re Neal’s family, too.
in a direct follow up to this
Emma: I see you haven’t changed
The look in Hook’s eye, “oh shoot! panic! SEDUCE! SEDUCE!” so cue awkward “there was nothing for me…” bit. He suddenly realized that what he is saying isn’t what Emma wants to hear.
I think Emma’s lack of response to Hook’s words is very telling. Emma awkwardly avoids saying anything and avoids making eye contact. That is not a good sign for Hook.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I am surprised by how good the last episode was. Emma was “our” Emma as we’d like her to be but just softened in good ways from being with Henry. I feared some total reset to her personality. She’s still her, but softened with some good experiences–and thanks to Walsh, one MAJOR weird reminder that fate, destiny, whatever you want to call it? You cannot escape it.
That aside, there were so many subtle, sweet SF clues. The fire that made her move because of a “fire” that Henry is a “spit fire”, the fact they KEPT THE PROPS for that apartment! It wasn’t an overly long scene or anything, but seriously, the scene jumps to Neal, the mentions of home–all of it flared up the tiny flame of hope!
SF is a slow burn story, that is unfolding on parallel paths. I was so happy to see Neal’s talk with the Charmings, and with Belle. I’m cringing a little at thinking how Henry, especially without memories, is going to react to Neal but I think it will be full of emotion. Henry and Emma on the one hand, and Neal on the other, are all trying to just have home and a family, that’s what they want.
One more SF thing: Emma doesn’t just pick a boyfriend for looks alone–not ragging on Gorham’s looks at all (but wow it was somehow believable he turned into a monkey!) but it struck me that Walsh’s way of “charming” her was definitely by being the nice guy who gets along with Henry. That is what made Emma so content and happy with him, not his dashing, romantic sexy demeanor . She liked him for how he treated her, and just as importantly, treated Henry. Yet he was a lie, someone (something?) pretending (for reasons we don’t entirely know yet!) to be the perfect guy to her, just like Tamara was the perfect girl to Neal. Emma might have fallen for it too if Hook hadn’t shown up and weirded her out with talk of curses, fairytales, and here’s your exes apartment.
It wasn’t a “Katherine” parallel either as some predicted, because Walsh and Emma weren’t given false memories of a relationship. Those 8 months, we’re told actually happened. This …MONKEY! fooled her for EIGHT MONTHS of dating. That’s…well, they may not have gotten engaged but Emma said she loved him. She actually didn’t decide to really turn him down until she realized she was caught up in a whole different life and she cared about him too much to drag him into it, so she was going to let him go. It is the PERFECT experience for her to wrap her head around Tamara. How Neal could let someone blind him, and just how tempting it could be to have someone so dedicated (despite a hidden agenda!).The small puzzle pieces are moving into place, and it is exciting to see it.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I am surprised by how good the last episode was. Emma was “our” Emma as we’d like her to be but just softened in good ways from being with Henry. I feared some total reset to her personality. She’s still her, but softened with some good experiences–and thanks to Walsh, one MAJOR weird reminder that fate, destiny, whatever you want to call it? You cannot escape it.
I agree that it was really good to see the old Emma, still strong, yet more approachable. Motherhood suits her well and really has made her more trusting. That’s the effect Henry’s had on her. Also, it was really good to see Emma in her red jacket again. As much as she dislikes her role as “the savior” she is still very capable. She kicked that monkey’s bottom like she body-slammed Tamara. No evil fake fiancés are going to get in her way.
That aside, there were so many subtle, sweet SF clues. The fire that made her move because of a “fire” that Henry is a “spit fire”, the fact they KEPT THE PROPS for that apartment! It wasn’t an overly long scene or anything, but seriously, the scene jumps to Neal, the mentions of home–all of it flared up the tiny flame of hope!
Yes, and in a half a season where the theme is home (a theme that has always applied to Emma and Neal), I see good things ahead.
SF is a slow burn story, that is unfolding on parallel paths.
Yes. They may be on separate paths at present again but their destination is the same. Home.
The small puzzle pieces are moving into place, and it is exciting to see it.
Yes, it is!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
“Right from the start you were a thief you stole my heart” [x]
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
From an interview with A&E:
“Emma started the season as she said she felt like orphan, she didn’t want to have magic, she didn’t have this to be her life. And then we see New York, she kind of enjoyed that life,” added executive producer Eddy Kitsis, who told The Hollywood Reporter that “this next 11 [episodes] is a little lighter and more wicked.” “The second half of the season is really going to force Emma to make a decision about what she wants to do with her future. She can’t continue to hedge.” [x]
Interesting!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Love the last couple pages of this thread!
The start of 3B seems rather like the start of 3A. SF are separated in different worlds. Emma didn’t remember him/thought he was dead. Still they have development and explanation of how they understand each other.
Now, you’d think that they wouldn’t want their 3B arc to be an exact copy of their 3A arc, they’d want it to contrast at some point. In 3A, they had an almost lunch date but got interrupted, then were torn apart completely. If they wanna contrast that, they’ll actually get the lunch date (which, now that I’m thinking of it, could work as a nice little comparison to her date with Walsh), and they’ll get to stay together. I’d like this in 322, please and thank you.
jennifer talks about neal
No matter what, Neal is going to be meaningful to her because he’s always going to be the father of Henry.
And the time that she did spend with Neal before he was forced to let her go was really wonderful.
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